Post-Game Talk: Pens and the horrifying 2-0 lead

[ChaosAgent]

They had no offensive chances after going up 2-0. None.

This roster sucks, but please fire Mr. Boston.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Jarry played average, to pretty well, until the last two goals, which were two of the worst goals a goalie can give up.

It's pretty sad all we can say is a positive for a $5m goalie is he played average to pretty good in 1 out of 10 games.

I agree on the other points though. I don't blame this loss on him, but he is yet again a huge contributor.

He was a .942 with 2 GA in regulation. I'll take that all day every day. It's not his fault his team can't bail him out with some goal support.

Some of you really have unattainable expectations for him.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Holy f***, literally every other goalie ever plays that play as TJ did. Had Sid not deflected the puck it would have been a routine save and possibly a break going the other way.

Please, wise one, tell me how TJ "should" have played that.

Also, if you gonna piss on TJ for not playing the deflection, where's the hate for Petterson for giving up on Point and trying to block the shot? It's almost as if you can only see the goalie because you are so bad at understanding the game of hockey that you can only cry about the goalie when a goal goes in.

I can see why so many don't post here anymore. When you quite literally point out facts they gotta push their narrative instead over facts. It makes sense why the board engagement is down.

No one is saying Jarry didn't f*** up on 2 goals. But admitting Crosby needed to be better and could have helped avoid that third goal or that Grz being just a competent defenseman could have avoided another isn't asking for a lot. It's also facts.

 

[K Fleur]

I just got off the phone with Jarry. He wants @Honour Over Glory and @Ragamuffin Gunner to know he sees you both and loves you dearly.

 

[ImporterExporter]

What's more frightening is David Quinn is waiting in the wings.

Well, Dan Bylsma managed to "will" this team to a title and I'd take anything remotely f***ing positive at this point, even if it was shorter term. Quinn can't be any worse. We're currently a laughingstock. Nowhere left to go.

Not firing Sullivan is just bizarre to me.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

They had no offensive chances after going up 2-0. None.

This roster sucks, but please fire Mr. Boston.

No mate it's Jarry's fault they were out shot 25-10 in the last 45mins of this game.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

I can see why so many don't post here anymore. When you quite literally point out facts they gotta push their narrative instead over facts. It makes sense why the board engagement is down.

No one is saying Jarry didn't f*** up on 2 goals. But admitting Crosby needed to be better and could have helped avoid that third goal or that Grz being just a competent defenseman could have avoided another isn't asking for a lot. It's also facts.

It's just the same 4 guys circle-jerking each other with their TJ hateboners every game. f***ing losers.

If they're not gonna be happy with a .942 and 2GA in regulation then they'll never be happy.

 

[SomeDude]

The only time in history a human being has over committed to anything more than Jarry did on the OT goal was when Dubas gave Jarry his contract.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I just got off the phone with Jarry. He wants @Honour Over Glory and @Ragamuffin Gunner to know he sees you both and loves you dearly.

Don't worry I'm sure Crosby appreciates you not mentioning he is shit in OT or that Grzelcyk was on the other goal when he pulls up and allows Tampa to go around the net for the goal. It's super convenient to not understand the sport like you. Must be nice to be that dumb and ignorant.

It's just the same 4 guys circle-jerking each other with their TJ hateboners every game. f***ing losers.

Quite literally just detailing the entire discussion with their elite stupidity.

 

[metalan2]

Played a decent role yeah. No one is doubting that.

But also being out shot 12-6 in the second and 12-4 in the third? He bit and f***ed up hard on the 3rd goal but Sid doing nothing to clear the puck and then skating by also aren't excused because Jarry bit on that play.

Why is that so hard for a lot here to admit. None of that excuses Jarry. But somehow the narrative is you white Knight for him by just saying that much.

This board is f***ing God awful.

The second goal was borderline worse than the third. Patently absurd goal.

Who cares if the lightning outshoot is by that much? The Penguins lost essentially every game out shooting their opponents last year and the year before. Goalies are supposed to stop the puck and especially shots that aren't high danger spots. Jarry doesn't do that.

Jarry played well until he didn't. It's who he is, he's a bad goaltender that has talent.

That being said he's not out biggest issue, he's just another issue. Sullivan is likely the culprit for making him THIS bad, so hopefully when he is fired Jarry can get back to average. However, it's getting to be too late for him almost.

 

[molon labe]

I can see why so many don't post here anymore. When you quite literally point out facts they gotta push their narrative instead over facts. It makes sense why the board engagement is down.

No one is saying Jarry didn't f*** up on 2 goals. But admitting Crosby needed to be better and could have helped avoid that third goal or that Grz being just a competent defenseman could have avoided another isn't asking for a lot. It's also facts.

What facts are in his post? It's conjecture. All of it.

Again, it's ironic that the two of you are making complete headgames of an atrocious play by Jarry. Team could have been better. Could have never gone to OT in the first place. We all know coach sucks. Defense could have been better. Sid could have never CAUSED the play (if you want to go there with it) in the first place - but Jarry to literally fly out of his net [ever] in that situation makes zero damned sense and you two are throwing a hissy fit because you like the guy. Well, he threw his own mediocre game away tonight with a highlight reel bad play.

 

[metalan2]

He was a .942 with 2 GA in regulation. I'll take that all day every day. It's not his fault his team can't bail him out with some goal support.

Some of you really have unattainable expectations for him.

It's not unattainable to let in a goal from the corner and then do whatever he did in overtime.

Again, NHL goalies have good games all the time and theyre to be expected to. If Jarry was making $750k a year you may have a point.

This great game for Jarry is a terrible game for Vasilevsky.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

What facts are in his post? It's conjecture. All of it.

Again, it's ironic that the two of you are making complete headgames of an atrocious play by Jarry. Team could have been better. Could have never gone to OT in the first place. We all know coach sucks. Defense could have been better. Sid could have never CAUSED the play (if you want to go there with it) in the first place - but Jarry to literally fly out of his net [ever] in that situation makes zero damned sense and you two are throwing a hissy fit because you like the guy. Well, he threw his own mediocre game away tonight with a highlight reel bad play.

lol, I love how I'm posting conjecture but your blind TJ rage is just the truth. It's clear that you have zero understanding of the game of hockey and especially how to play goalie.

Pathetic.

 

[metalan2]

Well, Dan Bylsma managed to "will" this team to a title and I'd take anything remotely f***ing positive at this point, even if it was shorter term. Quinn can't be any worse. We're currently a laughingstock. Nowhere left to go.

Not firing Sullivan is just bizarre to me.

David Quinn is Sully, but dumber. It would be just as bad.

Anyway, it's been bizarre for years. At this point it's downright conspiracy realm.

 

[the penitent]

Lost in the Jarry vs Sid blame game is how unbelievably horrible this team is in 3 on 3 OT. Given that they have enough elite/highly paid players that they should be dominating the OT, you simply have to point to the coaching as being the problem. Either they have tuned him out or the approach/scheme is flawed. - both lead to the conclusion that coaching has to change. Unless they find a team that's worse than they are (an ever-decreasing group), going to OT is the kiss of death for this team.

 

[BillyOcean]

We're busting out the hieroglyphs to defend Jarry tonight boys

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

It's not unattainable to let in a goal from the corner and then do whatever he did in overtime.

Again, NHL goalies have good games all the time and theyre to be expected to. If Jarry was making $750k a year you may have a point.

This great game for Jarry is a terrible game for Vasilevsky.

The 2nd goal was a bad bounce that happened because there was a Bolt wide open in front of the net and he had to try to deflect the pass. If you want to freak out about that go ahead but it's all because of a total defensive breakdown.

And to be honest, 2GA in regulation is amazing regardless of how they went in. He could score them both himself and I'd take 2GA in regulation every single night. That's literally better than any goalie's GAA in the league. .942 would also lead in S% as well.

Again, I'll say that you TJ hateboners will never be happy with him, regardless of what he does.

 

[BillyOcean]

In the final 2 periods before OT, the shots were 24-10, 12-6 and 12-4, Jarry is a work in progress and the whole f***ing world knows that, but Sid f***ed up harder on that play than Jarry did.

Dude is like 30 years old. The work is over.

Big bad Murray stole the net from my flowa. Me wuvvy flowa. Jarry replaced big bad Murray. Me wuvvy Jarry.

 

[SomeDude]

The irony of anyone questioning the organization’s loyalty to Sullivan as he continues to find new ways to fail while diving on every grenade to protect Tristan Jarry.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Ignoring the idiots and their obvious trolling...

• I thought Bunting had good moments in this game, but for some reason he's either being told to not do the after whistle stuff to draw calls or play in front of the net with his chippy style because he will do it and then the next game he won't and that's the one thing he did well and consistently.
• Jarry had a good game up until that deflection goal off his stick and biting super hard on that OT goal, although I felt both could have been avoided. The OT goal was Jarry falling super hard on that play by Moser and Point wrapping it in, but Crosby fails to knock the puck away when he checks Moser and then skates by Point leaving him to do what he wanted there and the deflection goal (Cirelli) while insanely unlucky and just dumb stick positioning was one he should have as well, the 2nd goal - if Matt Grzelcyk doesn't pull up for absolutely no reason, he comes in and pivots and stops himself and Point just skates by unharmed and throws the puck at the net, I felt like Jarry should have had that one as well for that back hand goal and its easy to point out but it's also something that should have mentioned as well that the defense needed to be better or even competent.
  • Jarry looked like he was having an incredible bounce back game for 40mins, then the final 25 it just was a combination of really shitty defensive plays and Jarry having to stop shots he should have stopped, but it is also easy to argue that all 3 goals could have been avoided which makes this worse, Jarry had the deflected goal by Cirelli and skates around the net easily, then Point does again and then one more for the nail in the coffin and in those plays...
    • Cirelli has the puck shot down and he picks it up, Karlsson goes towards him and stops, Pettersson then goes towards him at the other end and stops and Acciari comes to the front a little late, but both Pettersson and Karlsson fail to commit to checking Cirelli there, absolutely idiotic and then Jarry has his stick angled like an idiot and it goes off him and in.
    • 2nd Goal - Point skates in and Grzelcyk does some weirdo shit and just lets it happen, Jarry gets dunked on with a Crosby like backhander.
    • 3rd goal - Moser comes in, Sid initially checks him and then watches the puck go to Point and follows it to Point and just continues to watch while Jarry bites hard on the Moser pass/shot/check by Sid and is so far out of his net he can't do shit to save it.
    • None of these are opinions, they are quite literally what happened. A shit time for a goalie that ended up seeing 35 shots vs the Pens pouring on 19 and then playing like they didn't want to win this game with zero urgency.
• They were out shot 12-6 in the 2nd and 12-4 in the third, its like they didn't want to win this game at all.
• Crosby was absolute dog shit.
• Karlsson and Pettersson were both idiots on that Point goal
• Grzelcyk continues to be a shit defenseman and showed his lack of awareness on the 2nd goal.
• Jarry needed to be better but then again he's a goalie that's an absolute dumpster fire that is figuring his shit out and the team in front of him decided to play like they didn't understand how defense worked for a perfect storm.

Goal 1 - Point whips in a shot upstairs | NHL.com
Goal 2 - Cirelli ties it at two | Tampa Bay Lightning
Goal 3 - Point tucks in OT game winner | NHL.com

 

[K Fleur]

“Tristan Jarry is more important to this franchise than Sidney Crosby. Also I love him, please drop that restraining order!”- HOG…probably

 

[BillyOcean]

This is absolutely crazy. We know this team is awful and blows leads and needs a new coach. The same two people have to write dissertations defending one guy who "hasn't sold a dime" for this team and completely flounders most nights now.

Its really really funny haha.

We're not saying he was the only bad player when they lose. I promise, you two. The pitchforks can come down. He's a consistent problem, though.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Dude is like 30 years old. The work is over.

Big bad Murray stole the net from my flowa. Me wuvvy flowa. Jarry replaced big bad Murray. Me wuvvy Jarry.

If I had my way - Sullivan would have been fired years ago and our #1 would be Gustavsson and if they still drafted Blomqvist by not trading Gus, then a Gus-Blom tandem.

You monumental twat.

“Tristan Jarry is more important to this franchise than Sidney Crosby. Also I love him, please drop that restraining order!”- HOG…probably

Except I want Blomqvist to be the goalie (with Larsson as the back-up) and don't want either Ned or Jarry, but that wouldn't fit you being an absolute f***wit you dumb wankbucket.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

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It's actually infuriating.

You can tell which organization actually gives a shit about results and won't tolerate underachieving and which one simply wants to ball wash some overrated arrogant piece of turd who hasn't done shit since 2017.

 

[SomeDude]

“I’m going to block anyone who disagrees with me that Tristan Jarry is God’s gift to goaltending.”