Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Turin]

Rebuilding and surrounding Sid with good young players are not mutually exclusive goals though.

The Tomasino and Glass acquisitions are clear examples of what Dubas is trying to do. He didn't acquire them to pump their value to trade later. He acquired them hoping they'd find their game here and be part of the rebuild moving forward.

Dubas is trying to do what JR was already doing for a while there minus sacrificing the first round pick/prospects to do it. Pens got Oleksiak, Rodrigues, Kapanen, Marino and McCann all in like a two-ish year span. Then nobody had any patience for any of that nonsense so we didn't see McCann, Rodrigues or Oleksiak at their peaks lol.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think JR got Oleksiak cuz he was dumb enough for the "big = tough" thing, and once Wilson KOd Oleksiak, JR dumped him before his unconscious body even hit the ice.

I dunno I still think this rebuild on the fly, "try to compete while Sid's still playing" shit is absolutely a fool's errand, but it is what it is.

 

[Turin]

I think JR got Oleksiak cuz he was dumb enough for the "big = tough" thing, and once Wilson KOd Oleksiak, JR dumped him before his unconscious body even hit the ice.

I dunno I still think this rebuild on the fly, "try to compete while Sid's still playing" shit is absolutely a fool's errand, but it is what it is.

Doesn't really matter though, because if they keep their high picks they're still gonna be building for the future anyway.

But yea its kind of funny that JR got Oleskiak cuz he was big and could fight Tom Wilson, then he turned into a good player and they traded him because he couldn't fight Tom Wilson. Doh.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Doesn't really matter though, because if they keep their high picks they're still gonna be building for the future anyway.

But yea its kind of funny that JR got Oleskiak cuz he was big and could fight Tom Wilson, then he turned into a good player and they traded him because he couldn't fight Tom Wilson. Doh.

Yeah they really gotta hang on to their 1sts at all costs pretty much. Especially if they do the smart thing and start removing players like Petts, EK, Rust, etc. who may have enough value to bring back some value.

 

[Pancakes]

I dunno I still think this rebuild on the fly, "try to compete while Sid's still playing" shit is absolutely a fool's errand, but it is what it is.

I think Dubas is hoping it will be a rebuild on the fly but it will functionally work the same way as a rebuild because it seems like (recent streak aside) the Pens are a lottery team even with Sid anyways lol. Though maybe they're about to go on a run and play themselves out of that.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think Dubas is hoping it will be a rebuild on the fly but it will functionally work the same way as a rebuild because it seems like (recent streak aside) the Pens are a lottery team even with Sid anyways lol. Though maybe they're about to go on a run and play themselves out of that.

Yeah, I'm just hoping this team's not stupid enough to hang on to guys with value like Petts, Rust, etc. for the hell of it. But they absolutely will be.

 

[Pancakes]

Yeah, I'm just hoping this team's not stupid enough to hang on to guys with value like Petts, Rust, etc. for the hell of it. But they absolutely will be.

Can't see them holding onto Petts unless they're in a playoff spot by the deadline.

Rust probably isn't going anywhere as long as that NMC is active. Though iirc he loses his protection in a year or two? Maybe gone then.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Can't see them holding onto Petts unless they're in a playoff spot by the deadline.

Rust probably isn't going anywhere as long as that NMC is active. Though iirc he loses his protection in a year or two? Maybe gone then.

Rust's NTC drops this summer. I still don't think they move him unless Sullivan's fired after the season, sadly.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Can't see them holding onto Petts unless they're in a playoff spot by the deadline.

Rust probably isn't going anywhere as long as that NMC is active. Though iirc he loses his protection in a year or two? Maybe gone then.

Yeah, Petts is gone unless they suddenly look like a legit playoff team.

Rust's NMC expires on July 1. I think his future as a Penguin will depend on how much roster movement Dubas is able to conduct prior to that point. If he's struggling to move players out, Dubas might get antsy and look to trade Rust over the summer. Otherwise, Dubas might be content to wait a bit and see what Rust's value is later in his contract.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Not to come across as overly negative but Rust's already injury prone, streaky, and almost 33. So I don't imagine he's gonna be gaining value the longer they hang on to him. I think you work the phones all season to gauge interest in an off-season deal, and make the move after the dust settles on July 1st and some teams miss out on signing the forward(s) of their choice.

I don't think you should enter October with Rust and EK still Penguins tbh.

 

[Malkinstheman]

During preseason Dubas was talking about how they want players like Rust around to guide the next gen of Pens. I think he's here to stay sadly

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Bryan Rust? Lazy ass, takes like half the season off, coasts around the ice when he's not leeching off of Sid or Geno in the offensive zone, Bryan Rust? A mentor for the next generation? Man, I hope not.