Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[AuroraBorealis]

They absolutely have a choice. They can run a different system, they can get a different coach AND a different system, or they can even blow up the roster and rebuild. This shit (what we're doing) is just stupid.

Even with a different coach and system, you still need enough defensively responsible players to make the playoffs.
Do we have enough right now? No, not in imo anyway.
If our core 3 D-men all step up at the same time then sure, maybe you have the freedom to use more offensive personnel. It just doesn't feel like that's coming, especially not under Quinn.

 

[HandshakeLine]

What is this playoffs nonsense? We're not making the playoffs with or without Lizotte, it's a false equivalency.

When your team can only win against bottom-feeders (and even then just barely), it's time to think about a wholescale reworking of the team.

Lizotte (and to a lesser degree P-party) are role players on playoff bound teams, not us. And either way, icing them 5 minutes a night is basically a waste of a roster space.

 

[Gurglesons]

Mike Sullivan sucks but that's not unique to him.

If it isn't unique to him, why is a guy who played in the NHL for him twice bringing it up?

 

[Invalid cuz QoC]

What is this playoffs nonsense? We're not making the playoffs with or without Lizotte, it's a false equivalency.

When your team can only win against bottom-feeders (and even then just barely), it's time to think about a wholescale reworking of the team.

Lizotte (and to a lesser degree P-party) are role players on playoff bound teams, not us. And either way, icing them 5 minutes a night is basically a waste of a roster space.

Yeah that was a bit surprising since Mike Sullivan averaged like 12 min a game I think during his career.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yeah that was a bit surprising since Mike Sullivan averaged like 12 min a game I think during his career.

Enforcers get more time on ice than that.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Think they just played it safe with Lizotte returning from a concussion with no full-contact practice. I expect him to play 9+ tonight.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Healthy-scratching DOC warrants consideration. Pointless in 6 while averaging 17 mins. 1 shot in the last 2 games. -7 since Winnipeg.

 

[Andy99]

Healthy-scratching DOC warrants consideration. Pointless in 6 while averaging 17 mins. 1 shot in the last 2 games. -7 since Winnipeg.

Certainly there are others than Jesse who should rotate on the scratch list lol…

 

[vodeni]

I don’t think Sullivan is like against European born players, but as you said there is a clear bias to the skill set.

Frankie Corrado was talking about playing for Sullivan on the Athletic Podcast and basically confirmed he doesn’t trust young players and players have to “earn their minutes” with him through safe, responsible play.

We all witnessed safe and responsible playing last 7 years, culminating in with this years safe and responsible playing playing, imagine if he dresses unsafe and responsible ones how bad it was, Sully is really holding the fort

 

[HandshakeLine]

It would be one thing if he applied that safe, responsible standard to everyone, but lol. He don't.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852740485388873926

They should be out against us on Tuesday. This combined with their trash start... Not gonna catch them much more vulnerable than this.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It would be one thing if he applied that safe, responsible standard to everyone, but lol. He don't.

Right? This team's had like a dozen absolutely abysmal vets over Sully's tenure that never get held accountable and just keep getting minutes in all situations.

Goofy coach. Goofy organization.

 

[Jacob]

DOC is a UFA? That doesn’t seem right.

 

[Empoleon8771]

DOC is a UFA? That doesn’t seem right.

Yeah he's a UFA after the year, he turns 27 on June 9th next year. Barely UFA status.

This team is also old as shit, so even the guys who seem "young" aren't actually young.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah he's a UFA after the year, he turns 27 on June 9th next year. Barely UFA status.

This team is also old as shit, so even the guys who seem "young" aren't actually young.

True. Young pup 25 year old Puustinen.

 

[Andy99]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852740485388873926

They should be out against us on Tuesday. This combined with their trash start... Not gonna catch them much more vulnerable than this.

We’ll still lose 3-1 lol

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yeah he's a UFA after the year, he turns 27 on June 9th next year. Barely UFA status.

This team is also old as shit, so even the guys who seem "young" aren't actually young.

Yeah, it's wild how easy it is to just keep assuming some of these guys are young up-and-comers when they've been around for a long time. That's also why I thought it was weird people wanted to keep DOC because he's "young"

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

They absolutely have a choice. They can run a different system, they can get a different coach AND a different system, or they can even blow up the roster and rebuild. This shit (what we're doing) is just stupid.

That's what's so hilarious about this situation. It would be one thing if we were the DPE Devils playing "boring hockey" but winning. But we're essentially as exciting as those Devils teams but always on the losing end of things (except when we eek out a close win against the worst teams).

If you're going to suck anyways, at least be enjoyable to watch. Don't lose AND be a complete chore to watch for 2 and a half hours.

 

[Ulf5]

We’ll still lose 3-1 lol

Brock Nelson is good for at least 2 and Anders Lee is good for 1.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

Where’s all the drama from a couple days ago? I don’t come here to read hockey analysis.

 

[Jacob]

Where’s all the drama from a couple days ago? I don’t come here to read hockey analysis.

What’d I miss?

 

[KareemTrustfund]

What’d I miss?

Just the regular suspects having a go, highly entertaining. Love those guys . Page 67 a good place to start.

 

[SEALBound]

I don’t think Sullivan is like against European born players, but as you said there is a clear bias to the skill set.

Frankie Corrado was talking about playing for Sullivan on the Athletic Podcast and basically confirmed he doesn’t trust young players and players have to “earn their minutes” with him through safe, responsible play.

The problem with that is that this is coming from Frankie Corrado, a career tweener whose NHL career highlight is being traded for Eric Fehr in a cap dump move.

If this comes from someone like Brian Dumoulin, then it would hold more water.

 

[Pancakes]

The problem with that is that this is coming from Frankie Corrado, a career tweener whose NHL career highlight is being traded for Eric Fehr in a cap dump move.

If this comes from someone like Brian Dumoulin, then it would hold more water.

Yeah I didn't even remember who tf Frankie Corrado even is

 

[Gurglesons]

The problem with that is that this is coming from Frankie Corrado, a career tweener whose NHL career highlight is being traded for Eric Fehr in a cap dump move.

If this comes from someone like Brian Dumoulin, then it would hold more water.

Okay. Pascal Dupuis did it in 2018. Is that enough for you?

Yeah I didn't even remember who tf Frankie Corrado even is

He's the exact type of fringe NHLer that knows what it'd be like to be marginalized by Sullivan.