Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Randy Butternubs]

 

[pistolpete11]

Marner is so good that it makes me stop and think..."Wait a minute. Could they be contenders?"

Unfortunately, there's about a 0.0% chance of them landing someone like Marner.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Marner is so good that it makes me stop and think..."Wait a minute. Could they be contenders?"

Unfortunately, there's about a 0.0% chance of them landing someone like Marner.

Thinks "Karlsson for Marner" might be appealing.

 

[eXile3]

I’m sorry, is there a different Mitch Marner? One that’s not 26 years old and capable of putting up 99 points in a season?

He would absolutely make us contenders again. Not that there is any chance of it.

 

[pistolpete11]

Thinks "Karlsson for Marner" might be appealing.

I like Karlsson, but that would be interesting if Marner came with an extension.

I'd imagine they would want a replacement for Marner, though, as the Pens would want a replacement for Karlsson.

Karlsson+Rust/Rakell for Marner+McCabe? And yes, I know the cap doesn't work

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I’m sorry, is there a different Mitch Marner? One that’s not 26 years old and capable of putting up 99 points in a season?

He would absolutely make us contenders again. Not that there is any chance of it.

To be contenders again, they need to improve performance relative to cap hits throughout the roster.
So we gotta assess what Marner would give relative to what he'll be asking for on his next deal. Also gotta look at what would be subtracted to make room for Marner.
Then you can see how much progress is actually being made.

People talked about EK making us contenders last summer, but it only hurts you when you pay 10M (and 1.5M Petry retention) to get 6.5M or 7M value play.
Fortunately there were some net negative contracts going out the door in the EK trade, so it wasn't too bad.

But still, we saw the end result. That wasted cap space is why they missed the playoffs. Hextall deserves most of the blame for that.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

That wasted cap space is why they missed the playoffs.

Not the power play?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Not the power play?

The PP is a big portion of that missing cap value. The Pens paid 11.5M for EK to be here and he gave them 17 PPP's in 82 games. He was supposed to fix the PP.
For comparison Letang gave them 21 in 64 games the year before. 4 more PPGs than Karlsson even. 6.1M cap hit.

Fortunately EK was way better at even-strength last year than Letang in 2022-23, and that helped equalize it somewhat. But it's not close to enough when you dish out that much.
They're still at a negative 4.5 or 5 million with him.
In his defense, how many D-men actually play at a 10M+ level consistently? It's just asking too much. He doesn't defend well enough for that.