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Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

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Empoleon8771 said:
I really like McGroarty but it's a no brainer to make the swap if you can pull it off.

Jiricek is a potential #1D, someone with his size and offensive ability could be a downright gamechanger on the defense. IMO the Jackets have grossly mismanaged him and it's a crime that he's even available.



It would objectively be hilarious, but it's also a deal that would be a no brainer for the Penguins to make. McGroarty is good but Jiricek is simply a special prospect.
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I don’t disagree. Big fan of McGroaty, and think this is a developmental year for him.

But Jiricek would be the most talented young player we have had in some time.
 
Why are we considering Jiricek? He’s already 20 which means he’ll be 36 when Sullivan is fired and 62 when Dubas’ leash for the rebuild is finally cut.

But in seriousness, if Columbus was willing to move him for a package centered around Rutger then I’m pretty sure Columbus would have gotten him over us as that’s way more attractive than Yager even with adding something.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
From doing a bit more reading, it seems like the Jackets are super thin on goalie prospects while the Penguins are very deep in goalie prospects. McGroarty and Blomqvist for Jiricek would hurt for the Penguins to give up, but that opens up a spot for Murashov to get promoted to WBS and have him be the goalie of the future. Or maybe Columbus could just really like Murashov and it could be McGroarty and Murashov for Jiricek.
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I would be really frustrated if we moved two of our three best prospects for a defenseman with skating issues in 2024.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
From doing a bit more reading, it seems like the Jackets are super thin on goalie prospects while the Penguins are very deep in goalie prospects. McGroarty and Blomqvist for Jiricek would hurt for the Penguins to give up, but that opens up a spot for Murashov to get promoted to WBS and have him be the goalie of the future. Or maybe Columbus could just really like Murashov and it could be McGroarty and Murashov for Jiricek.
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I like both of those players for the Penguins but barring some surprising spike in their developmental curve they are like... good but probably simply everyday NHL players. A good starter (maybe... goaltenders are weird, after all) and a middle six wing with some intangibles. Nice but not irreplaceable by any means.

Jiricek isn't generational level but he's much closer to that tier than the other two IMO. You make that deal and be happy it came around I think. I understand not wanting to part with two of the only good prospects this team has but I always preference quality over quantity.

*looks angrily at Jake trade*
 
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Gurglesons said:
I would be really frustrated if we moved two of our three best prospects for a defenseman with skating issues in 2024.
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I think I ultimately wouldn't do Blomqvist but I would do Murashov. At the same time, I also think Murashov has insane upside and he can easily end up the better goalie.

It's a legitimate offer that the Penguins do have the depth to make. It would just be painful to make, which is what trading for a prospect of Jiricek's ability should be costing.
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt said:
I like both of those players for the Penguins but barring some surprising spike in their developmental curve they are like... good but probably simply everyday NHL players. A good starter and a middle six wing with some intangibles. Nice but not irreplaceable by any means.

Jiricek isn't generational level but he's much closer to that tier than the other two IMO. You make that deal and be happy it came around I think. I understand not wanting to part with two of the only good prospects this team has but I always preference quality over quantity.

*looks angrily at Jake trade*
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Adding Blomqvist to McGroarty is a lot for a player who is 20 and having issues translating to the NHL game due to skating.

I think he's a solid prospect and I'd do McG one for one, but adding more to it is where I pause and ask is this really the player to go all in for or is this just a player who had a great WJC and is suddenly avaiable becasue he can't translate to the NHL game.

Let's be honest Gudbranson, Severson, and now Fabbro are why he's not playing in the NHL. That isn't really a murder's row.
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt said:
I like both of those players for the Penguins but barring some surprising spike in their developmental curve they are like... good but probably simply everyday NHL players. A good starter (maybe... goaltenders are weird, after all) and a middle six wing with some intangibles. Nice but not irreplaceable by any means.

Jiricek isn't generational level but he's much closer to that tier than the other two IMO. You make that deal and be happy it came around I think. I understand not wanting to part with two of the only good prospects this team has but I always preference quality over quantity.

*looks angrily at Jake trade*
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See I actually think Murashov is such an athletic freak that he can be even more than that. I think there's an argument that it's better off trading Blomqvist and his "safe and good starter" upside and keeping Murashov's "riskier but elite starter" upside.
 
If Mush didn't come over in a somewhat unforeseen move I'd be reluctant to dish Blom but as it stands I mean... whatever.

I'm not all that jazzed having this team's "top" prospects be goaltenders, anyway. It's a bit of a barbed compliment. Like saying "yeah well my mother thinks I'm handsome!" or something.

Gurglesons said:
Adding Blomqvist to McGroarty is a lot for a player who is 20 and having issues translating to the NHL game due to skating.

I think he's a solid prospect and I'd do McG one for one, but adding more to it is where I pause and ask is this really the player to go all in for or is this just a player who had a great WJC and is suddenly avaiable becasue he can't translate to the NHL game.

Let's be honest Gudbranson, Severson, and now Fabbro are why he's not playing in the NHL. That isn't really a murder's row.
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Like I said I understand not wanting to move TWO of the team's only good prospects when we are this thin.

And for the record I'm hardly some prospect maven. I just know Jiricek by reputation. He might well be a still-concealed lemon of a player for all I know.

Empoleon8771 said:
See I actually think Murashov is such an athletic freak that he can be even more than that. I think there's an argument that it's better off trading Blomqvist and his "safe and good starter" upside and keeping Murashov's "riskier but elite starter" upside.
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I actually like Mush better as a prospect too so no disagreement haha
 
Gurglesons said:
Blomqvist has proven way more than Murashov has.

I don't know why anyone would view Murashov over him our top goaltending prospect.
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Empoleon8771 said:
I don't think Murashov is a better prospect than Blomqvist, I just think his upside is likely higher.
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I tend to agree but that's really just a gut feeling.

They're goaltenders. One or the other is fine I don't care.
 


Credit where credit is due: Sullivan actually made some good lineup decisions here.

I hate Puljujarvi being scratched but Tomasino on L2 and Pickering with Letang make up for that. Only way I'd change it is going with this in their bottom-6:

Bunting-O'Connor-Puljujarvi
Lizotte-Hayes-Acciari
 
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Empoleon8771 said:


Credit where credit is due: Sullivan actually made some good lineup decisions here.

I hate Puljujarvi being scratched but Tomasino on L1 and Pickering with Letang make up for that.
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Scratching PoolParty is not one of them…someone else on L4 needs to be scratched instead lol
 
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SomeDude said:
I just cannot understand how you can watch this team and conclude Puljujarvi is the guy who should sit. He’s been one of the only bright spots on this team the last month and I think was trending towards returning a 3rd or so at the deadline.

Make it make sense.
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Sullivan can't be havin' the Euro take the shine off his boys.
 
SomeDude said:
I just cannot understand how you can watch this team and conclude Puljujarvi is the guy who should sit. He’s been one of the only bright spots on this team the last month and I think was trending towards returning a 3rd or so at the deadline.

Make it make sense.
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It’s Sullivan— PKers reign supreme lol
 
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