Salary Cap: Pens '23-'24 Salary Cap Thread: "But if you don't get the President of the Pittsburgh Penguins on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"

[Darren McCord]

Speculation still on that. But he's been healthy scratched 3 times, and does have a history of getting put in the doghouse.
At that cap hit and ideal term (for us), I'd be all over it.

I wonder if he could be extracted by sending a heart and soul guy back in exchange. Berube has a weakness for those types.

The last thing the pens need is to trade someone with heart and soul. Because 75% of this team has none

 

[EXTRAS]

I think they should give puustinen 5-10 games and if at that point they don't like him then move on

 

[Coastal Kev]

I think they should give puustinen 5-10 games and if at that point they don't like him then move on

They should but the never do. If they did bring him up, Sully would play him a couple of games on the 4th line avg 6 minutes a game and call it a day.

 

[Empoleon8771]

A name that was thrown out by Habs fans in the "Kapanen style winger to Pittsburgh" thread that I really like is Ylonen. He's still on a $775k deal and has 11 goals and 25 points in 66 games in his NHL career so far. He has been used in more defensive assignments over his career as well, he has a career 44.9% offensive zone start% and what looks like decent on-ice results (-0.97% xGF%rel over his career with good defensive results). In terms of point production rate, he's at a 0.85 5v5 goals/60 and 1.88 5v5 points/60, which is really good for a bottom-6 guy.

Something like POJ for Ylonen would be a great move if Dubas could pull it off. Zohorna-Eller-Ylonen looks like a really good 3rd line to me.

 

[Darren McCord]

A name that was thrown out by Habs fans in the "Kapanen style winger to Pittsburgh" thread that I really like is Ylonen. He's still on a $775k deal and has 11 goals and 25 points in 66 games in his NHL career so far. He has been used in more defensive assignments over his career as well, he has a career 44.9% offensive zone start% and what looks like decent on-ice results (-0.97% xGF%rel over his career with good defensive results). In terms of point production rate, he's at a 0.85 5v5 goals/60 and 1.88 5v5 points/60, which is really good for a bottom-6 guy.

Something like POJ for Ylonen would be a great move if Dubas could pull it off. Zohorna-Eller-Ylonen looks like a really good 3rd line to me.

meh why do you think he would actually get a chance here.

He wouldnt play over Harkins or Hinnie

 

[BusinessGoose]

I don't think we need to find a diamond in the rough

We need a f***ing coaching staff

 

[AuroraBorealis]

The last thing the pens need is to trade someone with heart and soul. Because 75% of this team has none

Who were the heart and soul guys on the 2020-21 team, when they won the division?
Maybe only Tanev and Zucker.

So how was the team able to do it?
Simple. They got excellent goaltending. The PP was #4 in the league. The GF/G was 2nd. The goals for above expected was 2nd best as well.

It's a lot easier to play harder when the team's winning. Losing is demoralizing.

 

[HandshakeLine]

They also played during the middle of a pandemic.

No offense but no wonder an elderly team looks better in a shorter season with less travel.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I don't think we need to find a diamond in the rough

We need a f***ing coaching staff

Seriously. Why are people suggesting these "buy low, hope for potential" types when a]we need someone proven and b]even if they DID have potential, Sullivan wouldn't give them an actual chance in role that would allow them to reach that potential.

 

[SEALBound]

Seriously. Why are people suggesting these "buy low, hope for potential" types when a]we need someone proven and b]even if they DID have potential, Sullivan wouldn't give them an actual chance in role that would allow them to reach that potential.

Because we have next to zero cap space, a roster full of NTC/NMC, and very few assets to obtain proven impact players.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Coaches don't count against the cap, FYI.

 

[DrDangles]

It's ridiculous how much opportunity is given to Nylander considering he's had like 5 shifts in a Pens uniform where he didn't look a step behind and out of place. Dude just gets free reign to play next to Malkin even though it's glaringly obvious he doesn't process the game fast enough to play with a guy of that caliber.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

A name that was thrown out by Habs fans in the "Kapanen style winger to Pittsburgh" thread that I really like is Ylonen. He's still on a $775k deal and has 11 goals and 25 points in 66 games in his NHL career so far. He has been used in more defensive assignments over his career as well, he has a career 44.9% offensive zone start% and what looks like decent on-ice results (-0.97% xGF%rel over his career with good defensive results). In terms of point production rate, he's at a 0.85 5v5 goals/60 and 1.88 5v5 points/60, which is really good for a bottom-6 guy.

Something like POJ for Ylonen would be a great move if Dubas could pull it off. Zohorna-Eller-Ylonen looks like a really good 3rd line to me.

I don't venture outside of HFPens for various reasons, but did see that thread. And it seemed to be uncharacteristically helpful.

 

[Empoleon8771]

FYI shutting down any sort of conversation to bitch about Mike Sullivan is a great way to push people away from this website.

The Penguins have no cap space, no notable players in WBS worth a damn and very few tradeable assets. Talking about buy-low guys like Ylonen is completely reasonable to discuss potential additions.

 

[HandshakeLine]

This team board's fortunes have nothing to do with how people talk about Mike Sullivan and everything to do with how the team performs on the ice.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This team board's fortunes have nothing to do with how people talk about Mike Sullivan and everything to do with how the team performs on the ice.

Do you seriously think that people won't leave if any discussion turns into "Mike Sullivan sucks"?

I'm not even saying that Mike Sullivan is good, but shutting down a conversation about trades because "Sullivan won't play him anyway!" is just rude.

 

[Turin]

Kaprizov for Guentzel and something else. Do it Billy G.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I wonder if Guerin can fire the $14 million in dead cap that's kept his team from continuing to improve.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

It's ridiculous how much opportunity is given to Nylander considering he's had like 5 shifts in a Pens uniform where he didn't look a step behind and out of place. Dude just gets free reign to play next to Malkin even though it's glaringly obvious he doesn't process the game fast enough to play with a guy of that caliber.

People are very quick to give up on him on this board. Faster than any other Penguin I can remember.
And yeah, ofc we don't have sub 1-mil players capable of playing with Malkin.
That goes for any depth option you wanna list. But someone has to play there while Rakell is hurt, right?

 

[DesertedPenguin]

The Wild just fired Evason and are replacing him with John Hynes.

Thanks, Billy G. At least if the Pens fire Sullivan, Hynes won't be available for Dubas to stumble into. Hynes would be even worse than Reirden taking over.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Do you seriously think that people won't leave if any discussion turns into "Mike Sullivan sucks"?

I'm not even saying that Mike Sullivan is good, but shutting down a conversation about trades because "Sullivan won't play him anyway!" is just rude.

I mean, not wanting to discuss the obvious coaching issues is equally rude.

But more to the point, the only thing that brings people here is the team and the stars winning things. Let's not kid ourselves. We're in the decline, and it's only going to get worse, no matter what we talk about or don't talk about.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I mean, not wanting to discuss the obvious coaching issues is equally rude.

But more to the point, the only thing that brings people here is the team and the stars winning things. Let's not kid ourselves. We're in the decline, and it's only going to get worse, no matter what we talk about or don't talk about.

What

Literally no one is saying you're not allowed to discuss coaching issues. It's just rude to shut down another irrelevant conversation because "who cares, Mike Sullivan sucks!".

 

[HandshakeLine]

What

Literally no one is saying you're not allowed to discuss coaching issues. It's just rude to shut down another irrelevant conversation because "who cares, Mike Sullivan sucks!".

Do you read another board Emp and are mixing the two up, because lord know's it's happened in this very thread?

Besides, who cares if someone is rude on the internet? I don't see you complaining about how the crazy Eastwood guy is incredibly unpleasant to read, must be that politeness I've heard so much about.

 

[Turin]

The Wild just fired Evason and are replacing him with John Hynes.

Thanks, Billy G. At least if the Pens fire Sullivan, Hynes won't be available for Dubas to stumble into. Hynes would be even worse than Reirden taking over.

WBS be churning out some real mediocre/bad NHL coaches.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Because we have next to zero cap space, a roster full of NTC/NMC, and very few assets to obtain proven impact players.

Okay, see point 2. Why should we assume this "no track record but some potential" player would be given a chance by Sullivan to play in an actual role where he could reach the potential?