GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

[OnMyOwn]

Koivunen and Pronomorev are probably #2 and #3 in the Pens system now tbh, says a lot about the Pens system but they aren’t trash. Again, I have not seen these kids play. But Prono is having a good AHL season at 21. Both have cool names.

After tomorrow, I bet both Bunting and Pronomorev are on the big club.

 

[mrzeigler]

If their 6, 7 & 9 prospects immediately project to be in, say, our top 6, I’m ok with this.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Dubas has been horrible, like if you took the worst one year stretch of Rutherford's tenure.

Does he have a single good move aside from Eller?

 

[pensfan71]

I don't hate it tbh...no top prospects but doesn't seem like they are terrible

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Great job loser.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Kind of ridiculous that these guys are ranked 6-9 or whatever for the canes. 1 or 2 of them might already be top-5 for us lol

 

[SomeDude]

It's definitely more on the size of quantity but theyre all legit prospects. For a rental that's a pretty good haul Imo

To not get a guaranteed 1st and/or a team's top 5 best prospect for the best rental on the market is absurd.

 

[Tender Rip]

Hard to criticize kids I've never seen, but if we deal Guentzel and the receiving team does not have to part with any of their best FOUR prospects or their 1st round pick.... and the established player we get is an overpaid middle six tweener.... then that doesn't look great.

Anyway... hope for the best and see if we can get value above expectations for someone else. And of course pray that Sullivan doesn't get one second with these kids to taint them.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Vasily Ponomarev (that's how his name is spelled in the NHL system) has been playing in the AHL this season after recovering from an early season injury.

He's playing for Chicago Wolves, because Carolina has no AHL team. So there has been no dedicated focus on his development. And he's still acquitted himself fairly well (29 points in 39 games).

Lucius is in college but should be able to join WBS next year, as he turns 20 in April.

Koivunen has 55 points in 57 games for Karpat at age 20. He may be a darkhorse candidate to make the NHL roster next year. Karpat, by the way, also has recent Pens draft pick Emil Pieniniemi and former Pens prospect Kasper Bjorkqvist (who has just 13 points in 44 games).

 

[displacedpensfan]

Dubas has been horrible, like if you took the worst one year stretch of Rutherford's tenure.

Does he have a single good move aside from Eller?

Turning all of our trash into EK65 wasn't awful.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Cant say I'm shocked in Smith being shipped out was nothing to start with, what a dumb f***ing trade Hextall made on that one, also was bound to get shipped out with Pickering turning pro next season.

 

[JRS91]

I think it's a classic case of "Hopefully one of these players pans out to be good".

Everyone overrates what their players/prospects are worth, but man, I was really hoping for at least a 1st round pick, and not a conditional 2nd. Especially if you aren't getting a top 5 prospect.

 

[3074326]

Great job loser.

Sick line though.

 

[Andy99]

I’ll still consider this lame trade a win if Sullivan gets fired as he rightfully should!

 

[Turin]

After tomorrow, I bet both Bunting and Pronomorev are on the big club.

Prono is def the most interesting piece to me. Excited to see him, Canes fans seem sad to lose him.

 

[pensfan71]

We're adding a ton of skill that's for surer

 

[ChaosAgent]

I think Kyle Dubas is a bullshitter made for consulting.

Quantity over quality. Blech. But the GM is a boy wonder executive or something.

 

[the penitent]

Turning all of our trash into EK65 wasn't awful.

in principle, yes - in practice, Karlsson has been and will continue to be a disaster on this team

 

[KareemTrustfund]

Koivunen is very underrated. His point production as 20 year old in Liga is elite.

 

[ChaosAgent]

in principle, yes - in practice, Karlsson has been and will continue to be a disaster on this team

We can move him with retention after this year and be done with it. It will be a relief.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

There's a very good chance that no piece in this return becomes an impact NHLer. Really difficult to be happy with this, what's the point in trading him then.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

We got prospects 6-7-9 yes but also from a team that has a deep f***ing prospect pool. If we were getting that from Tampa Bay, I'd be a lot more worried to be honest

 

[Fatty McLardy]

Dubas experiment needs to end already, dude is a f***ing nerd

 

[Captain Hook]

Feels like we should have gotten at least one premium prospect or guaranteed 1st out of this but I guess not. Seems like a quantity over quality deal. Prospects are such projections though. Who knows how these guys turn out. Dubas and his staff just better be right about their evaluations of them. Only time will tell. I'll try to withhold judgement until then.