Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[DesertedPenguin]

Radim Zohorna was left off Czechia's roster for the World Championships after competing in their camp.

Can we officially move on from him? Can't even make the team in a watered down competition. If this was the Olympics, it'd be one thing, but the WCs are missing a lot of NHL players this year.

Puustinen and Puljujarvi both made Finland's roster. Bunting is with Bedard and McCann on the first line for Canada. Karlsson and Pettersson are playing for Sweden.

 

[wej20]

Disappointed DOC didn't get the call for USA. Raivis Ansons made Latvia.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Almost no nhlers made the Czech roster and that was by design. I'm fine with moving on from Zohorna, but this is pretty lol.

 

[Darren McCord]

Good thing one trade doesn’t mean we suddenly can’t make more or sign people.

Marcus Pettersson got lit up for months to finish the season. The amount of rope people give him is so silly.

I mean that’s what I said. Did you miss the unless they move a lot of other parts.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Petts may be the only half-competent guy on the blueline defensively, but I don't think he's an important piece or whatever. I don't think it'd be hard to replace him if they used him as an asset to improve other facets of the team.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Petts may be the only half-competent guy on the blueline defensively, but I don't think he's an important piece or whatever. I don't think it'd be hard to replace him if they used him as an asset to improve other facets of the team.

I feel like that's more of an indictment of the blueline than a compliment of Pettersson.

Either way, he's exactly the kind of play you should be moving either during a rebuild or during a reshape. He's got value to people, but he's not really going to move the needle on our blueline no matter where he plays.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Radim Zohorna was left off Czechia's roster for the World Championships after competing in their camp.

Can we officially move on from him? Can't even make the team in a watered down competition. If this was the Olympics, it'd be one thing, but the WCs are missing a lot of NHL players this year.

Puustinen and Puljujarvi both made Finland's roster. Bunting is with Bedard and McCann on the first line for Canada. Karlsson and Pettersson are playing for Sweden.

Probably would be smarter to see if Z can resume his above-average production relative to minutes before giving up.

MS is still the coach. The alternative is the next Harkins, or Harkins himself. Mike's gonna be looking for the next PK'er who doesn't provide anything elsewhere. I'm not in a rush for that.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

we’re on Marner watch now. He’s a Penguin for the start of 2024-2025. Willing it into existence.

 

[Andy99]

we’re on Marner watch now. He’s a Penguin for the start of 2024-2025. Willing it into existence.

I think Marner would help in a lot of ways, notably zone entries on the PP and carrying the mail for Geno…but he’s not a real goal scorer and that’s what we need with our putrid finishing…I’m really praying hard that Yager is ready to unleash bombs in our top six lol

 

[Malkinstheman]

I could see the leafs really wanting Rust but Hextall just had to give him a full NMC

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I'm pretty skeptical of Dubas wanting Marner.
He was ready to ditch him and blow up the core in Toronto before he got fired. Shanahan blocked it.

I do think Marner could help the team make the playoffs again though. Might not do anything in them, but would you rather the team miss again?

 

[66-30-33]

Radim Zohorna was left off Czechia's roster for the World Championships after competing in their camp.

Can we officially move on from him? Can't even make the team in a watered down competition. If this was the Olympics, it'd be one thing, but the WCs are missing a lot of NHL players this year.

Puustinen and Puljujarvi both made Finland's roster. Bunting is with Bedard and McCann on the first line for Canada. Karlsson and Pettersson are playing for Sweden.

Why did Crosby not make it? Thought he was wanting to go?

 

[HandshakeLine]

Probably would be smarter to see if Z can resume his above-average production relative to minutes before giving up.

MS is still the coach. The alternative is the next Harkins, or Harkins himself. Mike's gonna be looking for the next PK'er who doesn't provide anything elsewhere. I'm not in a rush for that.

Yeah, cutting bait on Z (who is dirt cheap, productive for his role, and isn't blocking any young blood) is really pretty hilarious coming from the guy who didn't want any changes to the coaching staff for nearly 4 years running.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Why did Crosby not make it? Thought he was wanting to go?

He said maybe.
MS hockey has sucked the joy out of the sport so much that even a hockey machine like Sid passes on WC.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Anyhow, Rulík's roster is already pretty controversial here, so I'm not sure what pointing to that proves regarding players. I'd also like to point out that Ticháček was passed over in favor of Rutta and Libor Hajek, so...

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Anyhow, Rulík's roster is already pretty controversial here, so I'm not sure what pointing to that proves regarding players. I'd also like to point out that Ticháček was passed over in favor of Rutta and Libor Hajek, so...

WC are useless and meaningless as an indicator for anything at the NHL level.
It's people just grasping at straws.
Puljujarvi is not suddenly more helpful at the NHL level because he made team Finland.

 

[HandshakeLine]

WC are useless and meaningless as an indicator for anything at the NHL level.
It's people just grasping at straws.
Puljujarvi is not suddenly more helpful at the NHL level because he made team Finland.

Lol yeah. It's just funny to me, especially because the Czech national team is notoriously dysfunctional.

 

[SEALBound]

Radim Zohorna was left off Czechia's roster for the World Championships after competing in their camp.

Can we officially move on from him? Can't even make the team in a watered down competition. If this was the Olympics, it'd be one thing, but the WCs are missing a lot of NHL players this year.

Puustinen and Puljujarvi both made Finland's roster. Bunting is with Bedard and McCann on the first line for Canada. Karlsson and Pettersson are playing for Sweden.

As a NHL roster hopeful, yes. I'd rather move to Puustinen, Poulin, Yager, Pono, etc. As a WBS journeyman, sure. If there's major injuries, sure.

But yeah, the fascination with him is over and done. If he was 5'11, he wouldn't be playing hockey right now.

we’re on Marner watch now. He’s a Penguin for the start of 2024-2025. Willing it into existence.

I'd take Marner over PLD but I'm not sure he's even the right fit for us unless we use it to get rid of a bad contract. Like, Rakell+Graves, sure.

I tend to think that in order to get him, we'd likely need to be giving up premium assets which would only create a hole somewhere else. It's not like the Kessel trade where we are giving up spare parts and a prospect and pick that we can afford to jettison.

 

[chethejet]

People link Dubas to Toronto as if Dubas has more insight. The facts are Dubas likes the worker bees and added Acciari and Bunting to the mix. that is where his wants are. He knows another big contract is simply not going to change the narrative. Plus he thinks Graves and Jarry can have better years next year. I think he adds a LW and moves Smith at the draft.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Why did Crosby not make it? Thought he was wanting to go?

He didn't go.

Almost no nhlers made the Czech roster and that was by design. I'm fine with moving on from Zohorna, but this is pretty lol.

So, do they not want to be as competitive as possible? That seems like a weird decision to not include players from the best league in the world.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Probably would be smarter to see if Z can resume his above-average production relative to minutes before giving up.

MS is still the coach. The alternative is the next Harkins, or Harkins himself. Mike's gonna be looking for the next PK'er who doesn't provide anything elsewhere. I'm not in a rush for that.

Zohorna was on pace for 17 points in 82 games. It's a similar pace as Emil Bemstrom. Pretty sure neither will be missed.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Zohorna had 2 points in his last 24 games in the NHL and played himself out of the NHL. Sullivan's love of Harkins has nothing to do with why Zohorna wasn't playing, Zohorna wasn't playing because he stunk.

I was super optimistic about him after a great start to the year, but he fell off a cliff and became useless out there.

 

[Turin]

Just remembered that Marners dad and agent are pains in the ass and facilitated a horrible negotiation process in TO.

Yea this probably isn’t happening lol

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I'd take Marner over PLD but I'm not sure he's even the right fit for us unless we use it to get rid of a bad contract. Like, Rakell+Graves, sure.

I tend to think that in order to get him, we'd likely need to be giving up premium assets which would only create a hole somewhere else. It's not like the Kessel trade where we are giving up spare parts and a prospect and pick that we can afford to jettison.

Don’t care, didn’t read, trade for Marner. It’s happening.

Just remembered that Marners dad and agent are pains in the ass and facilitated a horrible negotiation process in TO.

Yea this probably isn’t happening lol

Just means less suitors and less expensive.

 

[Your Boy Troy]

Trading future assets for Marner makes no sense at this point. This is a team whose core is too old to contend at this juncture. Marner isn't enough to change that. There are too many constraints to make the deal work financially without giving up value in roster players/futures. It's not a fit, and I'm a fan of Marner's 2-way play and playmaking abilities (his 'poor' play this postseason is largely overblown).