Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Ploff time

[SEALBound]

From a poster on another site…(sad face)

“Was listening to NHL radio in the car. Shane O'Brien said Malkin is "good as gone"

Says Florida would be interested and could see Detroit giving him a good size offer.”

Florida has $3mil in space and are losing Marchment, Accari, Giroux, Thornton, and Huberdeau has one year left before needing a big raise.

Where is the money coming from?

And yeah, Detroit can make a good offer but again, why does Malkin do that? Detroit is a shitty team in a shitty city. What sense does the switch make?

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

I think I’m going to hold off on all Malkin speculation until days after Letang is signed. Burke has already said they’ll get deeper into Malkin’s extension when Letang gets signed and that looks more and more likely by the day that it’s a matter of when not if that it’s going to happen.

 

[Tom Hanks]

I mean you have examples every off-season of teams trading 1st-3rd rounders to teams to get out of bad contracts.

Zucker would be easy to do that with since he only has 1 year left. Pettersson would be tougher but I think people on here overestimate how much of an anchor his contract is.

Pretty safe to say that there is a 99.9999999999999999999999999999% chance that one or both Zucker & Petts will be here Game 1 if the season or if they are both traded there will be salary cap coming back in the deals.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Florida makes a ton of sense for Malkin if you ignore the salary cap, but you can't just ignore the salary cap. They're not the Florida team that's allowed to do that.

If Malkin leaves, the teams that make the most sense are Washington and Seattle. Both of those teams have a clear need and the money to make it work. Teams like NYR, Florida and Colorado would have to jump through massive hoops to make the money work.

Pretty safe to say that there is a 99.9999999999999999999999999999% chance that one or both Zucker & Petts will be here Game 1 if the season or if they are both traded there will be salary cap coming back in the deals.

Doing that will either lead to having Trocheck as your 2C with okay wingers or Malkin as your 2C with shit wingers, so I really hope they're not so lazy to just do that.

 

[Andy99]

Florida has $3mil in space and are losing Marchment, Accari, Giroux, Thornton, and Huberdeau has one year left before needing a big raise.

Where is the money coming from?

And yeah, Detroit can make a good offer but again, why does Malkin do that? Detroit is a shitty team in a shitty city. What sense does the switch make?

well I mean Florida is working on trading Bob…lol

 

[Empoleon8771]

well I mean Florida is working on trading Bob…lol

Yes, and I'm working on dating Emma Watson.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

DeSmith: 2 years at $1.75 million a year
Letang: 4 years at $8.25 million a year
Kapanen: 1 year at $2.75 million
Heinen: 1 year at $2.25 million
POJ: 1 year at $800k
Trade Zucker and Pettersson and get out of their deals in any way you can

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
XXXXXX-XXXXXXX-XXXXXXX
Heinen-Carter-Kapanen
O'Connor-McGinn-Blueger
Zohorna-Hallander

Dumoulin-Letang
Matheson-Marino
POJ-Ruhwedel
Friedman

Jarry-DeSmith

You have $16 million to completely rebuild that 2nd line. Don't f*** it up.

Those three X's better be awesome because I don't like that bottom six. It's too much of what was wrong with the past handful of seasons.

I get that's realistically what it will look like because of guys already signed, but I just don't like it. That bottom six needs an overhaul to bring in different types of players. So unless the second line is absolutely lights out to make up for it, I'm pretty much expecting to be underwhelmed again.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Interesting idea I just got on the main board, would you do Pettersson to LA for Iaffalo? Both have basically identical contracts, with both having 3 years left and both making essentially $4 million. Iaffalo has been made redundant in LA with the Fiala addition, and LA is in horrendous shape on LD currently. I think Iaffalo is a more cost appropriate Zucker that doesn't get hurt every 30 seconds. He's an incredibly weird player analytically:

I think he'd make a lot of sense as a LWer for Malkin, as more of a defensive guy with solid finishing ability. Going from Zucker to Iafallo on LW also likely gives you enough money to keep Rakell. Iaffalo-Malkin-Rakell isn't a worldbeater, but it's way better than anything Malkin has had for years.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Interesting idea I just got on the main board, would you do Pettersson to LA for Iaffalo? Both have basically identical contracts, with both having 3 years left and both making essentially $4 million. Iaffalo has been made redundant in LA with the Fiala addition, and LA is in horrendous shape on LD currently. I think Iaffalo is a more cost appropriate Zucker that doesn't get hurt every 30 seconds. He's an incredibly weird player analytically:

I think he'd make a lot of sense as a LWer for Malkin, as more of a defensive guy with solid finishing ability. Going from Zucker to Iafallo on LW also likely gives you enough money to keep Rakell. Iaffalo-Malkin-Rakell isn't a worldbeater, but it's way better than anything Malkin has had for years.

Can Iafallo actually play center? That would make him more appealing for sure.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Can Iafallo actually play center? That would make him more appealing for sure.

I don't know why Iaffalo is listed as a center, he's been a winger over his entire career. Like I said, he's basically Zucker that doesn't get hurt at a more appropriate cost.

Here's his scouting report:

A hard worker, he is a forward who can clean up a lot of his teammates' mistakes before they wind up in the net. Is not the most skilled player in the league, but he gets to the front of the net, has plenty of grit and the ability to recover pucks. He can be an excellent third wheel for two offensive-minded linemates.

He did what he has done since breaking into the league in 2017 – the “dirty work” for Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown. Almost always the first player in on the forecheck and excellent at recovering the puck in the corners, he makes life easier on his linemates. He also proved that he’s more than just a product of Kopitar and Brown towards the end of the season. In the last month of the year, head coach Todd McLellan decided to shake the lines up a little bit and move Iafallo off the top line. Instead, he was paired with Gabe Vilardi and Lias Andersson for six games.

During these six games, both Vilardi and Andersson saw an increase in production after adding Iafallo to their wing — Vilardi tallied five points and Andersson grabbed three in the six games. While this is a small sample size, it reinforces the idea that Iafallo makes whoever he plays with better. With the success they found down the stretch it would make sense for the Kings to keep that line together. If that line can keep up close to the level of production we saw in their six games, LA would add some much-needed depth scoring to their lineup.

I think this falls into kinda a Dupuis type of player. I debated calling him a Hagelin type of player but I don't think it quite fits, I think Dupuis is a better comparable.

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Turin]

Part of me would literally die if I saw Malkin on another team. All of me would die if I saw him in division. f*** that.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think Malkin to the Rangers COULD work but it would involve the Rangers just gutting their depth to make it work. They would likely have to get rid of multiple of Chytil, Lindgren and Goodrow, and that's already with assuming they get out of Nemeth's deal. It also makes Lafreniere a MASSIVE offersheet target for next year.

Malkin would have to take a super team friendly deal to make it work easily, and if he's willing to do that, why is he not re-signing in Pittsburgh?

 

[Gumbercules]

Malkin to the Rangers is hard to believe. Rangers have 12M in cap room with 9 forwards under contract. THey also have Kaako as an RFA, need to find a backup goalie and have to worry about Lafreniere, Chytil and Miller RFA contracts next summer. They need Geno to sign a 1yr deal at a discount essentially.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

And yeah, Detroit can make a good offer but again, why does Malkin do that? Detroit is a shitty team in a shitty city. What sense does the switch make?

Malkin's childhood team was the Red Wings. If he just wants to maximize his potential earnings for the remainder of his career, Detroit is an absolutely great fit for him.

Interesting idea I just got on the main board, would you do Pettersson to LA for Iaffalo? Both have basically identical contracts, with both having 3 years left and both making essentially $4 million. Iaffalo has been made redundant in LA with the Fiala addition, and LA is in horrendous shape on LD currently. I think Iaffalo is a more cost appropriate Zucker that doesn't get hurt every 30 seconds.

I think he'd make a lot of sense as a LWer for Malkin, as more of a defensive guy with solid finishing ability. Going from Zucker to Iafallo on LW also likely gives you enough money to keep Rakell. Iaffalo-Malkin-Rakell isn't a worldbeater, but it's way better than anything Malkin has had for years.

Only the one reply from the Kings POV so far in that thread and they'd rather have futures, which I can see. But I'm surprised they think the value is there. I would think PIT would have to add. If Pettersson could be flipped in another deal, Iafallo would be a great addition. I just don't know that this team has any realistic futures that LA would want.

 

[dogthateats]

He just wants to feel wanted

 

[Empoleon8771]

Malkin to the Rangers is hard to believe. Rangers have 12M in cap room with 9 forwards under contract. THey also have Kaako as an RFA, need to find a backup goalie and have to worry about Lafreniere, Chytil and Miller RFA contracts next summer. They need Geno to sign a 1yr deal at a discount essentially.

Yeah, what also makes it worse is that basically all of their expensive players have NMCs or restrictive NTCs. There is no "we can just dump Zucker and Pettersson" with their team, it's either trade Adam Fox or you can't clear substantial money.

That's what happens when you get players for cheap because they forced their way to NY. They don't want to leave NY, so you're stuck with them.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Yes, and I'm working on dating Emma Watson.

Better check all the feminist boxes for her, or things will be tough for you.

 

[Peat]

The real prize of UFA is Stanley cup champion defenseman Jack Johnson.

I’m think we should offer 3.25 x 5 years

You're one sick f***.

Better check all the feminist boxes for her, or things will be tough for you.

Ah yes, that is indeed the main obstacle between Empo and Emma Watson.

 

[Jobeycool]

This is an interesting name.

McGinn.

Decent, but overpaid, and kinda shat the bed at the end. Could be decent going forward but not really a need.
Any chance we can outright dump the contract? Failing that, could we ship him out for somebody else who is overpaid at a position of need? We're talking about Petry...what about McGinn for him? Or Zucker for him...

Petry is not very good at defense either but He is a good on the PP.. I don't know Seems like Dumoulin legs get tired and Pettersson is what He is .. just mediocre...

 

[Empoleon8771]

Petry is not very good at defense either but He is a good on the PP.. I don't know

Petry is downright atrocious on the powerplay. That is arguably his biggest problem.

 

[Tom Hanks]

He just wants to feel wanted

Malkin’s contract will be 3x6mil and 2 pug puppies

 

[Empoleon8771]

Once again, Puljujarvi wants out, and Oilers are ready to accommodate with a trade

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Jobeycool]

Petry is downright atrocious on the powerplay. That is arguably his biggest problem.

Thought He had a pretty good shot...?