Does anybody know the rules for minimum # of hours between games for an nhl team? I ask because on March 9th we’re in Boston for a 3PM EST game and on March 10th we’re at home for a 1PM EDT game. By my calculations that’s 21 hours in between.
Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach
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11:48 AM - FEBRUARY 8, 2024 CRANBERRYKAPANEN PAYS (BIG-TIME) FOR DUI
They take their DUI offenses more seriously in some countries than we do here: Kasperi Kapanen, now with the Blues, was guilty of such a charge last August, per a report today out of Finland, and forced to pay a fine of 108,700 Euros, or roughly $117,000.Why so much?
Because over there, fines are assigned per an individual's wealth, with an aim of preventing an abuse simply because one can afford to commit it.
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dui in the Czech Republic is defined by any amount of alcohol in your system no matter how trace and the fines are astronomical. Driving here is so much better for it.
Too many people don’t realize that, but I’m going to stop talking about them so they magically get better.
It’s cool that problems go away because you don’t like talking about them.
Too many people don’t realize that, but I’m going to stop talking about them so they magically get better.
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It just gets boring having Sullivan crowbarred into almost every discussion. And Im guilty of it too sometimes. But it starts to get a little over the top when people are pretending that they were huge fans of Danton Heinen. Or maybe I’ve been complaining so long about Sullivan that I’m finally bored of it and you guys took way too long to realize how much he sucks as a coach?
Uhhhhhhh........Harkins has a deceptively good shot! (resulting in ZERO goals and averaging less than 1 shot per game). That takes skill to keep such a great shot under wraps.
Anybody else check the HFPens board 17x a day to see what shakes up have been made to the Pens? I mean, my god they need it. Maybe Todd is replaced by Bruce Boudreau or we turned Smith, Smith and a second into a winger for Geno.
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah, me neither.
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Our coaching staff is pretty much here for the remainder of the cores career. If they wanted to win they would have made changes by now, but they won enough now they are just keeping the guys happy. Look at the PP for example? all these hall of famers and we are last on the PP and ZERO changes. It's the "whatever happens happens" approach from here on out. Sully and co will go when the core is done.
Johnny Rifle
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I believe the amount of animosity on this board towards Sullivan is directly proportional to the obsession by Fenway et al in genuflecting him in public.
It’s not that Sullivan is a terrible coach, he’s just past his expire date with this team. However, the image of ownership placing their fingers in their ears and closing their eyes to the obvious problems just upsets us more than the losses piling up.
If we are hanging on to the vets at reduced prices to win the Cup one last time then go for it. Dubas at least gave us EK, while that hasn’t worked out as well as we hoped at least it was a major move. Switching up third liners and power play teams is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as Captain Sullivan ignores the icebergs that lay ahead.
A new coach is the proper prescription for this team to have a chance at success. I just don’t think ownership is willing to let go of the comfortable mediocrity that plagues this team. A new coach willing to challenge and breathe new life into the vets and take some risks would at least give us some excitement.
There is simply no excuse for our power play to be this bad with this amount of talent. Geno holding the puck at the blue line while everyone stands still is the perfect analogy to the Pens’ woes. It’s not that we don’t have players willing to go the extra mile, it’s just that that extra mile isn’t helpful if you are heading in the wrong direction.
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It’s not that Sullivan is a terrible coach, he’s just past his expire date with this team. However, the image of ownership placing their fingers in their ears and closing their eyes to the obvious problems just upsets us more than the losses piling up.
If we are hanging on to the vets at reduced prices to win the Cup one last time then go for it. Dubas at least gave us EK, while that hasn’t worked out as well as we hoped at least it was a major move. Switching up third liners and power play teams is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as Captain Sullivan ignores the icebergs that lay ahead.
A new coach is the proper prescription for this team to have a chance at success. I just don’t think ownership is willing to let go of the comfortable mediocrity that plagues this team. A new coach willing to challenge and breathe new life into the vets and take some risks would at least give us some excitement.
There is simply no excuse for our power play to be this bad with this amount of talent. Geno holding the puck at the blue line while everyone stands still is the perfect analogy to the Pens’ woes. It’s not that we don’t have players willing to go the extra mile, it’s just that that extra mile isn’t helpful if you are heading in the wrong direction.
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ThosePuckingPenguins
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I’m starting to believe more and more that Sid wants Sullivan here for the remainder of his career which is why FSG is so attached to him.
Everything we read and hear says this is the case…someone needs to convince Sid that if he wants to win with this core, it’s his only option…changing out players again and again has not worked
Johnny Rifle
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it’s not the decision to keep Sully that upsets me so much. If Dubas or Fenway came out and stated that things are rough but he has solid player support, at least we can agree to disagree on the best direction of the team.
My beef is there is such a smugness and denial of reality that everything is okay and “puck luck” is our biggest problem. There are serious fundamental problems with this team that can’t be explained by lack of chemistry or lack of talent.
I’ve never seen so much confidence from an ownership group in a coach out of the playoff picture not in an obvious rebuilding season.
We don’t have insider access to meetings between ownership and Sullivan. However, either Sullivan isn’t listening or adapting to constructive criticism, or there isn’t any criticism, in either case change is needed.
MeinerEiner
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It’s been three GMs working with Sullivan, giving him the players he wants for his system, yet the Pens are getting worse every single year. At some point someone has to ask himself if this is still the right coach for this team at this point of their career. Is he playing a system which will never work with these players? Is he using the players he got in the right way? What is the benefit of playing this exact 4th line? Why are there no systematical changes to the PP?
There are too many unanswered questions and I don’t think the Pens have a chance of making the playoffs with this coaching staff, not this year and not next year.
There are too many unanswered questions and I don’t think the Pens have a chance of making the playoffs with this coaching staff, not this year and not next year.
Gurglesons
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Agreed. The arrogance of this franchise is just hilarious and why we missed the playoffs last year and why we will miss again this year.
It’s all in the skates…change out the skates, change the flex in your blade too while you’re at it, and you’ll score more lol…
Legit thought this was going to be about Harkins changing a skates or sticks to score “more”
He does have a deceptively good shot so why change anything…Geno, on the other hand lol…seriously, I think he’s injured because he apparently was talking to the trainer too and he had a maintenance day recently …let’s hope he’s out there for practice
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Sullivan and Co - and perhaps Dubas (which puzzles and saddens me) - need that Billy Beane moment from Moneyball when they are talking FAs and drafting where the old guy says "he hits the ball well, it pops off the bat, he really drives it!" and Billy says "if he's a good hitter then why doesn't he hit good?" It was the moment in the movie where Billy Beane presented the first piece of pushback to the old ways of thinking about baseball. Then everything spawned from there. What's interesting is if you look at the scene, the scouts really humanized the player, and Billy sought to dehumanize them and look at actual performance and rate them on that.
I think we are seeing similar things with this organization, particularly with a guy like Harkins. Granted, when I see his hustle and energy, I don't immediately hate him. He's who people said he was so it's hard to be too mad at him personally. But at some point there has to be the ultimate question of "is he helping us win games or not?" and the truth is...no. Now yeah, there are a lot of guys that aren't helping us win but you have much more ability to fix small issues like Harkins as opposed to larger ones like Smith, Graves, Carter, etc. Tough with Nieto and Acciari out sure but that's why god gave us the waiver wire.
I'd be cycling through Hinostranza, Zohorna, Puustinen, and especially Poulin before I kept Harkins on the roster. I'd waive him like they did with Zohorna just to help facilitate being able to rotate some guys up to see if different combos might work. I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIIIIIGHLY doubt he gets claimed but if he does...oh well. That's a 7th-round pick player to acquire, and every team has one or two. We have 3-4.
I think we are seeing similar things with this organization, particularly with a guy like Harkins. Granted, when I see his hustle and energy, I don't immediately hate him. He's who people said he was so it's hard to be too mad at him personally. But at some point there has to be the ultimate question of "is he helping us win games or not?" and the truth is...no. Now yeah, there are a lot of guys that aren't helping us win but you have much more ability to fix small issues like Harkins as opposed to larger ones like Smith, Graves, Carter, etc. Tough with Nieto and Acciari out sure but that's why god gave us the waiver wire.
I'd be cycling through Hinostranza, Zohorna, Puustinen, and especially Poulin before I kept Harkins on the roster. I'd waive him like they did with Zohorna just to help facilitate being able to rotate some guys up to see if different combos might work. I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIIIIIGHLY doubt he gets claimed but if he does...oh well. That's a 7th-round pick player to acquire, and every team has one or two. We have 3-4.
Yikes…Geno really is injured…
And from Taylor…sounds bad…
“Head athletic trainer Chris Stewart is on the bench watching him though and occasionally talking with him, so this could be injury-related too. We'll see if Malkin is back out there for practice. Stewart went up to the offices to talk with Kyle Dubas and Spezza after Malkin got off the ice. Doesn't seem like a good thing.
• Not to get too far ahead of things here but if it is injury-related and the Penguins need a center, reminder if you missed my entry in the feed on Friday that Sam Poulin is out with a lower-body injury in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton and the Penguins also don't have the cap space for a recall without a corresponding move.”
And from Taylor…sounds bad…
“Head athletic trainer Chris Stewart is on the bench watching him though and occasionally talking with him, so this could be injury-related too. We'll see if Malkin is back out there for practice. Stewart went up to the offices to talk with Kyle Dubas and Spezza after Malkin got off the ice. Doesn't seem like a good thing.
• Not to get too far ahead of things here but if it is injury-related and the Penguins need a center, reminder if you missed my entry in the feed on Friday that Sam Poulin is out with a lower-body injury in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton and the Penguins also don't have the cap space for a recall without a corresponding move.”
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I mean... we all know this... but... did anyone just sit and let that stew?
A coach in the modern NHL survives to work with THREE GM's. That has to be some kind of record.
There has to be a perfect culmination of several scenarios coming together at once for that to happen. Has any other coach worked for three gm's on one team?
Good for us and sadly for king ding-a-ling forever HCMS he has little to no chance of seeing a fourth working gm. (**I wouldn't count out this guy's ability to do it)
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Buddy Bizarre
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I find it hilarious that people still tote water for a HC that has:
- 4 (maybe 5) future HOF's on his roster
- Has his preferred goalie
- The entire bottom 6 is constructed exactly per his liking
- Those same 5 HOF's can muster a PP% that's basically dead last in the league
And yet with all these resources it's likely that the playoffs will be missed for 2 consecutive seasons
Great gig if you can find it I guess...
so our defense and offense stinks…and the coach has no input into either of those lol
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Yea people will put up EK's defensive stats as some measure of us locking down more when it's the goalies who are masking the major problems.
When Petts is your only Dman with half a functioning brain, you're gonna have issues; I feel bad for the only dude who can babysit out there.
I can't wait until Jarry/Ned regress to the mean and everyone will start blaming them when it's really the defense that blows ass (it's almost like a recurring theme with Sully coached teams)
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