Proposal: Penguins-Canadians Bad Contract Swap
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Empoleon8771
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I think the lack of response here just shows this is a thoroughly uninspiring and even trade 
BigHabs
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I think I'd pull the trigger on this. Straight up or maybe the littlest sweetener add from the Pens.
Armia gets a change of scenery and help a playoff team which I think his size and use of his frame would work well with Pittsburgh.
Petterson only 25. Will fill the void of a foregone conclusion of Chiarot gone. Petterson will be closer to the age group moving forward as well.
The extra 600k in cap won't be an issue as I expect alot of moving pieces this deadline and offseason.
The likes of Toffoli / Edmundson / Lehkonen which all hold value. Then guys like Kulak and possibly Drouin.
If Chiarot and Edmundson go that left side will be very bare. That's where Petterson could fit in.
Armia gets a change of scenery and help a playoff team which I think his size and use of his frame would work well with Pittsburgh.
Petterson only 25. Will fill the void of a foregone conclusion of Chiarot gone. Petterson will be closer to the age group moving forward as well.
The extra 600k in cap won't be an issue as I expect alot of moving pieces this deadline and offseason.
The likes of Toffoli / Edmundson / Lehkonen which all hold value. Then guys like Kulak and possibly Drouin.
If Chiarot and Edmundson go that left side will be very bare. That's where Petterson could fit in.
With all due respect, this is a terrible proposal.
Pettersson has been fine and will remain a Penguin unless either the Pens can extend Dumoulin (which I have a feeling will be unlikely) or the Pens are able to bring in a comparably priced right shot Dman to replace Ruhwedel for next year as an upgrade or if he leaves as a UFA.
In either case, such a move will not happen until the off-season. The Pens do not want to sacrifice their D depth at this point and the last thing on earth they need is another bottom 6 winger, especially one who is 3 years older than Pettersson.
This proposal also implies that Pettersson has negative trade value and I absolutely don’t believe that to be true. Given his age (still young for a Dman), the fact he hasn’t peaked yet as a player, and his cost certainty & salary in the context of what Dmen are going for these days, I have no doubt the Pens will be able to find a taker for him in the offseason. Sure, the return may only be something like a 2nd round pick or mid tier prospect — or he could be a piece of a package for an even better player — but there are teams out there that would want him and the Pens would not have to take back a bad contract in return.
Pettersson’s contract is not bad — he will simply be superfluous next year when P.O. Joseph can take his place for 1/4 of the price and given the flat (or almost flat) cap and the Pens need to spend that $ on forwards & UFAs.
Pettersson has been fine and will remain a Penguin unless either the Pens can extend Dumoulin (which I have a feeling will be unlikely) or the Pens are able to bring in a comparably priced right shot Dman to replace Ruhwedel for next year as an upgrade or if he leaves as a UFA.
In either case, such a move will not happen until the off-season. The Pens do not want to sacrifice their D depth at this point and the last thing on earth they need is another bottom 6 winger, especially one who is 3 years older than Pettersson.
This proposal also implies that Pettersson has negative trade value and I absolutely don’t believe that to be true. Given his age (still young for a Dman), the fact he hasn’t peaked yet as a player, and his cost certainty & salary in the context of what Dmen are going for these days, I have no doubt the Pens will be able to find a taker for him in the offseason. Sure, the return may only be something like a 2nd round pick or mid tier prospect — or he could be a piece of a package for an even better player — but there are teams out there that would want him and the Pens would not have to take back a bad contract in return.
Pettersson’s contract is not bad — he will simply be superfluous next year when P.O. Joseph can take his place for 1/4 of the price and given the flat (or almost flat) cap and the Pens need to spend that $ on forwards & UFAs.
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I don't think Montreal needs bodies to replace Chiarot and Kulak at LD, Edmundson will presumably return eventually, they can play Clague and they can call Niku up to play NHL minutes. Petry is a future question, but he's a RD.
That said, I don't have an issue with Montreal doing the trade (or not doing that trade). Petterson is still young and even if Montreal starts selling, they aren't going to go scorched earth and they have a lot of RWers anyways (they're not going to be able to move all of Toffoli, Gallagher and Anderson and they'll want to give minutes to Caufield and Ylonen eventually).
Lol.
That said, I don't have an issue with Montreal doing the trade (or not doing that trade). Petterson is still young and even if Montreal starts selling, they aren't going to go scorched earth and they have a lot of RWers anyways (they're not going to be able to move all of Toffoli, Gallagher and Anderson and they'll want to give minutes to Caufield and Ylonen eventually).
I think the lack of response here just shows this is a thoroughly uninspiring and even trade
Lol.
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3ladesof5teel
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Pettersson has not been fine, he has been sheltered going back to last season. He is being paid 4 mil to play 15 mins a night. When he does get more mins the flaws in his game show
The staff obviously does not trust
As a pens fan, I understand the whole log jam on the left side and their cap hits are pretty bad but I dont think this trade would be something the pens do. Your downgrading your defense and where would Armia even play when we have a healthy lineup? Simon has more assists than this guy has points.. that is really saying something. Like you said, they are not playing great or terrible for their teams but if I am going to overpay for a player, its going to be defense because for anyone that ever played hockey, you know defense is the toughest position to play. Plus if Dumo or Matheson were to go down with an injury and you trade Petts, you are looking very weak on the left side. I know POJ is coming up but I think there is a reason why he has only played in 4 games this year and that is because they want him to continue to grow and learn down in WBS. Also, they are playing great right now so you shouldnt mess with the chemistry. I do believe they will make a trade before the deadline but I cant see this being an upgrade.
Pittsburgh should and likely would reject this trade.
Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
No, been asked that before. I guess there is a place there with the same name.
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I don't think Pettersson's a bad contract at all. He does what he's supposed to do in a 2nd pair role.
Coastal Kev
There will be "I told you so's" Bet on it
Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
Yup, I’m from the Maritimes originally, and thought that was what you were referencing.
Assuming Tanger is all but gone which we won't be able to fit him in for his money he will command and if the Pens do something stupid and resign Malkin at 7+ then ... make this deal you have to get two Dmen and really outside of Klingberg on free agency the options are limited. Pittsburgh passes on this for obvious reasons.
I like Armia as a big forward that the Pens could use. Petts quite frankly can be move for value and this doesn't help the cap situation for the Pens. Now if the Habs throw in a high pick say a second, then maybe that changes the dynamic.
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- There is nothing remotely intriguing Armia at all. he is not even good. Has would need to add something good. At least while his contract isn't great, Pettersson is a much better player than Armia. Heck, Pettersson has more points as a Dman than the lousy Armia. Pass.
He is overpaid and not a true 2nd pair. Is it a horrible contract?? No but its not great. He is a 5/6 on a cup team. Very soft and didn't have a great yearast season but has been stable this year
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3ladesof5teel
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I wouldnt really assume he's gone but its anyone's guess. And looking at klingberg as a replacement for Letang is going to leave a lot of people disappointed
