Why do you care if you've already decided to buy a 5090? I'm the one who's waiting to buy this mythological 9070 XT.
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Because I still give a shit? Even though I'm getting a 5090, I still want AMD to do well. Not this stupid shit show.Why do you care if you've already decided to buy a 5090? I'm the one who's waiting to buy this mythological 9070 XT.
I don't want AMD even further behind than they already are. Competition is good.
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A few new bits of info from the Q&A session that followed AMD's event:
* AMD claimed that they were allowed only 45 minutes by CES, which wasn't enough time to announce and go over everything, and that they want to hold another event for gaming stuff at a later date. They didn't give a date (other than "Q1"), though, which makes me wonder if they weren't quite ready to do a detailed announcement, anyways, and are waiting on Nvidia and, specifically, the announcement and pricing of the 5070.
* AMD confirmed that FSR 4 does currently require an RDNA 4 GPU, since it's designed to take advantage of its machine learning capabilities, but they intend to evaluate its performance on older architectures, so it may eventually be backported.
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Mikeaveli
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5070 having 4090 performance for $549 is pretty impressive, looking forward to seeing performance numbers for the 5090
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Mikeaveli
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Looks like DLSS 4 will support multiple frame generation, really cool stuff. That Cyberpunk comparison is pretty insane
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I'm pleasantly surprised by those prices. I expected each to be a couple hundred dollars higher.
I was mostly set on buying a 9070 XT, but this may change things. I probably won't consider the 5070, due to only 12GB of VRAM, but the 5070 Ti is a real option, and I won't totally rule out the 5080, but that much for only 16GB is hard to stomach. It'll depend on how each benchmarks in reviews without upscaling or frame generation. I'll still consider the 9070 XT, but it may need to be faster or cheaper than expected.
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This is welcome. I actually care more about latency than upscaling and frame generation. I'm a little skeptical of the implementation, since it seems like optical trickery instead of pure latency reduction and could be noticeable, but I welcome the experiment.
The 5070 won't have 4090 performance. According to Nvidia's slides, the 5070 is ~30% faster than the 4070. Meanwhile, the 4090 is 100% faster than the 4070, making it ~54% faster than the 5070.
Nvidia is being deceptive by counting the extra generated frames that the 50 series is capable of with DLSS 4. That may result in similar framerates in supported games, but doesn't equal similar performance.
That said, 2/3rds of the 4090's performance for only 1/3rd the price is still pretty impressive.
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Mikeaveli
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Looks like the cost of going from 2x frame gen to 4x is about 6.5ms of latency. Improvements to upscaling and Ray Reconstruction are also looking really nice.
I didn't think I would be buying another display so soon but it seems like a 4k 240Hz display is necessary to get the most out of the 5080 and 5090.
It was also nice to see that the new Doom game will be getting path tracing. Great announcements all around from Nvidia this time
I will say this, I do wonder how limited the raster performance may turn out. Just very curious.
