Value of: Pavelski to Avs

[PAZ]

Faksa isn't really good anymore and he's got a few more years left on his contract. I don't think it's necessarily a swap that Avs fans should want.

I personally wouldn't mind gambling on him, but if he has really fallen off that much maybe a change of scenery trade like Compher for Faksa?

 

[Kcb12345]

Klingberg is significantly worse then Girard at both ends of the ice.

We literally get worse, and give up the player signed to a great contract for another 5 years. Flat out awful deal.

Klingberg is probably a 60-70 point player on the Avs. Girard is not better offensively than him lol wow. One of the worst takes I've seen. Only Makar would be better offensively on the Avs D

Girard plays on the easiest team in the league to score with from the backend and is still hardly outproducing Klingberg, who is having a down year.

 

[AslanRH]

One of the worst takes I've seen. Only Makar would be better offensively on the Avs D

Devon Toews would like a word

 

[Kcb12345]

Devon Toews would like a word

Klingberg is better than Toews offensively. On the Avs he'd be producing the same or better.

Klingberg has always been insanely underrated. One the most skilled dmen in the league. Could count on one hand using only a few fingers the dmen who are more individually talented than him offensively

 

[GirardSpinorama]

That'd make sense.

Whats up with Jost anyways? Seems to be a perfect fit skill-wise for Colorado but the production just isn't there. Low hockey IQ, effort level, or something else?

High effort level, good hockey IQ. Just weak and average speed. Also uses a stupidly long stick so can never win faceoffs.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Faksa isn't really good anymore and he's got a few more years left on his contract. I don't think it's necessarily a swap that Avs fans should want.

Damn why are you guys so honest and fair. It's not common on the trade board.

 

[Zapp]

Damn why are you guys so honest and fair. It's not common on the trade board.

We're a different breed. We sort out trades with management through WhatsApp

 

[My3Sons]

Is Pavelski a good fit for the Avs style of play? He’s a bit of a plodder. He’s got the smarts and skill of course. He might make more sense on a “big heavy” team?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I think the only way the Avs trade a first this deadline is to get a cheap solid veteran that will be on the team for at least another season. Think Coleman/Goodrew type trade. Very few pure rentals work out.

 

[jonlin]

Is Pavelski a good fit for the Avs style of play? He’s a bit of a plodder. He’s got the smarts and skill of course. He might make more sense on a “big heavy” team?

Pavs would be great with Kadri.

Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Burakovsky-Kadri-Pavelski

Thats a pretty heavy Top6. It`s 2 1st lines right there.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Is Pavelski a good fit for the Avs style of play? He’s a bit of a plodder. He’s got the smarts and skill of course. He might make more sense on a “big heavy” team?

He plays with Hintz and it seems to work out. Robertson is also not a real fast skater. Besides, what type of team wouldn't benefit from a guy who can tip pucks in from in front of the net? At the trade deadline, salary probably doesn't mean much, but the Stars could retain for that little bit of the season that is left, if it made a difference in return.

 

[franste Perreault]

Klingberg is probably a 60-70 point player on the Avs. Girard is not better offensively than him lol wow. One of the worst takes I've seen. Only Makar would be better offensively on the Avs D

Girard plays on the easiest team in the league to score with from the backend and is still hardly outproducing Klingberg, who is having a down year.

the problem Klingberg is a rental Girard has a good contract term.
I don't think Colorado looking for a point producer in defense.
Klingberg will not be happy in Colorado because Makar has 1:30 per power play ice time.
If Colorado looking for a def, they prefer a penality killer

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I’d do a 1st + Jost for Pavelski for sure

 

[MNRube]

What GM would pay full price for Girard? He gets caved in during big games and is a liability in the playoffs

 

[ASmileyFace]

Pavelski has all the makings of a playoff hero for the Avs. I'd do Jost + 1st for sure.

 

[Spilot23]

I’d do a 1st + Jost for Pavelski for sure

Could you imagine Pavelski tipping Makar's wristers in the PP. He's also good in the faceoffs I think he would be a better solution the 1st PP unit over Kadri.

 

[Murzu]

So can we fax the papers to Dallas? Jost + 1st <-> Pavs with necessary retention.

 

[Dr Pepper]

I would be on board with Pavs going full mercenary with Colorado, maybe helping them out on a deep run.

Don't know much about Jost, but collecting first round picks sure seems like a good idea heading into this offseason.

 

[BfantZ]

A 1st + jost seems pretty low compared to what other teams would likely offer for pavelski.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

A 1st + jost seems pretty low compared to what other teams would likely offer for pavelski.

What do you think other teams would offer which would top that?

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Klingberg is better than Toews offensively. On the Avs he'd be producing the same or better.

Klingberg has always been insanely underrated. One the most skilled dmen in the league. Could count on one hand using only a few fingers the dmen who are more individually talented than him offensively

Since the start of 2018-19, Klingberg is 20th in total points among D, and 17th in PPG among D (100 games minimum). He's definitely a good offensive 2nd pairing D (store brand Tyson Barrie?), but I'm not sure how you call him one of the top 5 offensively talented defensemen in the league.

 

[BfantZ]

What do you think other teams would offer which would top that?

I think he could fetch a 1st + a decent prospect .I don’t think jost adds much value to the trade .

 

[BfantZ]

Since the start of 2018-19, Klingberg is 20th in total points among D, and 17th in PPG among D (100 games minimum). He's definitely a good offensive 2nd pairing D (store brand Tyson Barrie?), but I'm not sure how you call him one of the top 5 offensively talented defensemen in the league.

In a different organization klingberg would have a lot better stats .

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I think he could fetch a 1st + a decent prospect .I don’t think jost adds much value to the trade .

Who’s been the best prospect added to a 1st rounder for a rental in recent memory? Perhaps I’m mistaking but I feel the 1st rounder is usually the biggest piece in these deadline rental deals. Only one that comes to mind is Brannstrom for Stone but that wasn’t in addition to a 1st. Plus Stone came with an extension agreed on which pretty much negates the rental part too.

 

[Kcb12345]

Since the start of 2018-19, Klingberg is 20th in total points among D, and 17th in PPG among D (100 games minimum). He's definitely a good offensive 2nd pairing D (store brand Tyson Barrie?), but I'm not sure how you call him one of the top 5 offensively talented defensemen in the league.

Can't judge his numbers without taking into consideration how bad the team is offensively. No dman would produce much in the Stars defensive system. Put him on Colorado or any team that encourages offense and he would take off again. Skill-wise he's easily top 5, but is held back by the Stars system. Just check out Rick Bowness' comments the other day about Klingberg. He's trying to get him to change his game completely. I'd imagine he will go back to producing normally if he gets a team that at least tries offensively