Value of: Pavel Buchnevich to NYR

[Namikaze Minato]

He's signed for 2 more seasons and change, not 3. And as a deadline acquistion current health absolutely plays a roll. Again, current DTD might not be connected to previous injury - but as a deadline acquisition i'm not wrong to be curious.

EDIT: not wrong to be curious if there is a connection to his recent injury.

That would be what you took away from that.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Hey how bout that orielly. He will serve you well

I was hoping for a gio payment (2 seconds and a third) so I consider it an overpayment but i am still happy he is here.
You just have to understand how jaded we leafs fans are. So many people have promised us success when we get "their guy", It has not worked out in my lifetime. From Leetch and Nolan to f***ing foligno it has always ended the same way, lets hope you were right and this is the guy for us.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

The only way I’d consider trading away Buch is if a team took Colton Parayko as well

 

[westc2]

Buchnevich is part of the Blues young core with Thomas, Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bolduc, Neighbors, Alexandrov and numerous 1sts, 2nds and 3rds draft picks.

Buchnevich is the same age as Barbashev (27). So if they want to keep the "young" core, the Blues need to keep Barbashev. There's no reason they shouldn't try to re-sign him.

 

[PocketNines]

The only way I’d consider trading away Buch is if a team took Colton Parayko as well

I do not understand this thinking. The Blues are in a terrible timing phase to be spending their prized value on dumping contracts. They are multiple, multiple players away from competing seriously, so spending value to tear down is so pointless.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Blais and a second...but shit, we just lost Blais

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I know it's a troll thread but better chance he goes to NJ in the offseason with the need for Hughes to find his winger

 

[stl76]

you're right - it's absurd to think a guy could have reinjured himself, or had some side effects. I don't know what his current injury is but give me a break from the smugness.

I think you're being a little over sensitive my friend. If you had asked for information about Buchnevich's current injury rather than wildly speculating you would have likely gotten a much different response. For the record, it's being reported that the current issue is not related to his previous injury.

 

[BlueTacos]

I think you're being a little over sensitive my friend. If you had asked for information about Buchnevich's current injury rather than wildly speculating you would have likely gotten a much different response. For the record, it's being reported that the current issue is not related to his previous injury.

He had infection in his foot. Fixed now.

 

[SwivelSchwartz]

The only way I see Buch being moved is for an elite d prospect. A quantity trade is not appealing until next season at the earliest

 

[DingDongCharlie]

1st + Kravstov + B level D prospect for Buch 50% retained.

Rangers moved him cause the cap implications. Sort that and get pieces for the rebuild.

 

[StlBill]

The only way I see Buch being moved is for an elite d prospect. A quantity trade is not appealing until next season at the earliest

If NJ puts Nemec on the table, then Hughes has his PPG winger. We can then move Parayko to whomever…

1st + Kravstov + B level D prospect for Buch 50% retained.

Rangers moved him cause the cap implications. Sort that and get pieces for the rebuild.

Pass

 

[bernmeister]

1st + Kravstov + B level D prospect for Buch 50% retained.

Rangers moved him cause the cap implications. Sort that and get pieces for the rebuild.

no
rentals

 

[Mrfenn92]

no
rentals

Buch isn’t a rental

 

[SRHRangers]

no
rentals

While Buch is a pipedream for the Rangers,

Buch would not be a rental.

Get it together man.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

If NJ puts Nemec on the table, then Hughes has his PPG winger. We can then move Parayko to whomever…


Pass

Forget about Nemec. Its not happening

 

[BlueTacos]

Blais and a second...but shit, we just lost Blais

Yeah no. 1st + +

 

[bernmeister]

Buch isn’t a rental

While Buch is a pipedream for the Rangers,

Buch would not be a rental.

Get it together man.

ny can't afford to keep
given MUST extend not bridge Chytil + KAM

ergo Buch gets dealt after
ergo = rental
de facto
but still a rental

 

[Mrfenn92]

ny can't afford to keep
given MUST extend not bridge Chytil + KAM

ergo Buch gets dealt after
ergo = rental
de facto
but still a rental

With half retention included in the deal that was proposed paying $2.8 million aav for the next 2 years isn’t a rental at all.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Forget about Nemec. Its not happening

We have no plans of moving him at all. So Nemec or not, it's not happening.

You can't just trade away all of the competent NHL vets and hope that things eventually turn around. Rebuilds cannot be done with just a bunch of young players with no experience and no leadership. Need to keep the likes of Schenn, Saad, Buch around to have a relatively quick turn around in 2-3 years.

If you strip your team down to the skeleton, you would end up in a situation like the Oilers or the Sabres. We are not planning on spending 10+ years in the doldrum, rebuilding the rebuild that follows the original rebuild.

Or another example take the Coyotes, their D corps is basically a mish mash of marginal journeymen, career AHLers, and prospects not quite ready, plus Chychrun. They basically have 5/6 GA every game, and once Chychrun goes, most teams would probably would be able to score at will on them.

 

[im gangster]

Time machine

 

[Diamonddog01]

The only way I’d consider trading away Buch is if a team took Colton Parayko as well

Has Parayko fallen off that much??

 

[stl76]

Has Parayko fallen off that much??

No he has not. He just faces probably the toughest usage of any dman in the NHL and has become the whipping boy for some Blues fans.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I do not understand this thinking. The Blues are in a terrible timing phase to be spending their prized value on dumping contracts. They are multiple, multiple players away from competing seriously, so spending value to tear down is so pointless.

Was more exaggeration because while a full tear down is necessary, I don’t think they’ll do it and if they won’t, may as well hang on to the one good contract unless the worse one is also gone

Has Parayko fallen off that much??

His contract is that bad

 

[bernmeister]

With half retention included in the deal that was proposed paying $2.8 million aav for the next 2 years isn’t a rental at all.

Ordinarily maybe leaning yes
BUT in exact case upcoming next season, NO
If we want long term affordability we MUST go extend not bridge
After next season, moving Trouba + recovering a chunk of his 8 is a real thing.
But not before.

We will likely have to deal Lindgren, and possibly also Goodrow for every short term nickel
There is no room for Buch2, or anybody else2, for that matter