Player Discussion Pavel Buchnevich Part V

[member 116805]

Buchnevich having a good offseason, I see.

Donkey (or is it a mule)looks like he/she is having a ball.
Animal cruelty don't amuse me.

 

[kovazub94]

Was he scared to make mistakes for Russia too? Because he looked like the same guy.

And the Kovalev comparisons are a joke I hope he is just as lazy and soft as kovy while putting up 1000 nhl pts. If he does that I won’t care. But I highly doubt he gets near that. When Kovalev got the puck you knew it. Buchnevich is lucky to even touch the puck at this rate.

NOONE is comparing Buch’s talent level to Kovalev. The point was that “lazy” label was very much a part of #27 description for much of his Rangers ‘ tenure, and it is funny though not surprising given the source that it is being used now with Buchnevich.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

VOTE for our fourth line enforcer.

 

[Blue Blooded]

VOTE for our fourth line enforcer.

Does anyone know what Buch's Kordic/60 is?

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

So what happens if Buchnevich is having another disappointing season by trade deadline? I think we have to then trade him or risk losing trade value.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

So what happens if Buchnevich is having another disappointing season by trade deadline? I think we have to then trade him or risk losing trade value.

How is getting 43 points in 74 games while having a coach who constantly misues you disappointing? I know you have a bias against him but come on

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So what happens if Buchnevich is having another disappointing season by trade deadline? I think we have to then trade him or risk losing trade value.

Before you call Buchnevich' season disappointing, I think you need to look at context. Here's a list of Rangers in their 2nd pro-season since 2000, ranked by points.

Oh, look! Only 2(!) forwards this century have had more points in their 2nd pro-year as a Ranger.

 

[Ori]

When I look at that table it make me sad - we need to draft better! We`ve one player since 2001 who had more than 60 pts!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

When I look at that table it make me sad - we need to draft better! We`ve one player since 2001 who had more than 60 pts!

These are only players in their 2nd NHL season. People need to realize that 2nd year pros don't just magically put up 60 or 70 points.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

How is getting 43 points in 74 games while having a coach who constantly misues you disappointing? I know you have a bias against him but come on

I have a bias against him? interesting, you sure you not confusing me with somebody else?

Coach issues aside for a talented and skilled player like him 43 points in 74 games is disappointing. I think he should be producing close to a point per game or more with his skills.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I have a bias against him? interesting, you sure you not confusing me with somebody else?

Coach issues aside for a talented and skilled player like him 43 points in 74 games is disappointing. I think he should be producing close to a point per game or more with his skills.

3rd best production by a 2nd year pro since 2000, but sure. 43 points in 74 games is disappointing

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Before you call Buchnevich' season disappointing, I think you need to look at context. Here's a list of Rangers in their 2nd pro-season since 2000, ranked by points.

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Oh, look! Only 2(!) forwards this century have had more points in their 2nd pro-year as a Ranger.

But are any of the players behind Buchnevich Russian?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

But are any of the players behind Buchnevich Russian?

The "I think he should be producing close to a point per game or more with his skills." bit is hilarious.

Here's why:

Since 2000, a total (that's league-wide) of 13 players have hit 75 points or more in a their 2nd pro season (which is a safe number to look at something like a point per game).

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The "I think he should be producing close to a point per game or more with his skills." bit is hilarious.

Here's why:

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Since 2000, a total (that's league-wide) of 13 players have hit 75 points or more in a their 2nd pro season (which is a safe number to look at something like a point per game).

But muh Russian enigma narrative!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

But muh Russian enigma narrative!

I think he has me blocked and won't see my responses to his ridiculous posts, which is a shame.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I have a bias against him? interesting, you sure you not confusing me with somebody else?

Coach issues aside for a talented and skilled player like him 43 points in 74 games is disappointing. I think he should be producing close to a point per game or more with his skills.

And if his new coach starts having issues with him as well then it will further diminish his value and confidence and he might run away to KHL.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

And if his new coach starts having issues with him as well then it will further diminish his value and confidence and he might run away to KHL.

He's finally reached the point where he is quoting himself thinking he found someone who agrees with him

 

[Ori]

Yes still quite an interesting read and content, so thanks for digging it up @Amazing Kreiderman

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yes still quite an interesting read and content, so thanks for digging it up @Amazing Kreiderman

Context matters. I should change my username to that.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

And if his new coach starts having issues with him as well then it will further diminish his value and confidence and he might run away to KHL.

Since you have him blocked. A certain poster basically showed that 13 players have hit 75+ points since 2000. Tell us again how Buchnevich should have done that.

Edit: In their 2nd year.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Since you have him blocked. A certain poster basically showed that 13 players have hit 75+ points since 2000. Tell us again how Buchnevich should have done that.

Feel free to copy-paste the screenshot. I don't mind.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Feel free to copy-paste the screenshot. I don't mind.

Thanks, I didn't realize that all I had to do was copy and paste and didn't have to download anything!

 

[kovazub94]

Since you have him blocked. A certain poster basically showed that 13 players have hit 75+ points since 2000. Tell us again how Buchnevich should have done that.

And 4 of these are Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin and McDavid. Otherwise one player per 2 seasons. I’m glad there are such lofty expectations from a 3rd rounder.

 

[Levitate]

I think Buch did have an inconsistent season and the goal will be to improve on that. With his talent he is capable of more but this isn’t uncommon for a player his age and position. He’s talented but he’s not like star level 70+ points talented IMO. I think a Zucc level forward is a reasonable expectation of his upside, maybe a tad more points of it all breaks right

He had a concussion and a coaching staff that wasn’t helping him figure out what he needed to do and improve on but just expecting him to figure it out. The new coaching staff should be far more hands on and that will hopefully help him

Expecting him to be a top winger in the league and calling he lazy if he isn’t is not a realistic evaluation of his skills and abilities