Value of: Paul Stastny

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Do you not realize how many teams would love to overpay for a #2C?

Stastny is getting 6M minimum with term. It's ridiculous to even think he's getting 5M AAV
 
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Ararana

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Avs are swimming in cap space and badly need a #2 center. Stastny can replace Soderberg in a few years on the third line when one of Jost/Bowers/Kamanev matures enough to take over the #2C.

I really hope the Avs make him a competitive offer.
 
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AZviaNJ

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He shouldn't get Kane's term given he's 6 years older.....but if Kane got $7M/AAV, it's hard to imagine his camp not expecting the same or more.
 

AvatarAang

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I want him to be a Leaf, Matthews, Kadri Stastny down the middle? Yes please

Jets had similar C depth and got wrecked by an expansion team. How about the leafs stop spending money on forwards that provide offense and start spending money on defense that provide defense.
 

TheBluePenguin

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The fact that everyone here says they would be happy to pay him 3 years at 6m, that mean someone is going to over pay and give him 7m for 4 years lol

He played himself into some extra cash this past playoffs, I would like him back on the Blues if cannot beg Tavares to come, but I think we will get out bid.
 

IWantSakicAsMyGM

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Avs are swimming in cap space and badly need a #2 center. Stastny can replace Soderberg in a few years on the third line when one of Jost/Bowers/Kamanev matures enough to take over the #2C.

I really hope the Avs make him a competitive offer.

The Avs are swimming in cap space for next season, and probably the year after that. But, in the next year or three, we're going to be giving a lot of young kids raises (Rantanen, Zadorov, Jost, Compher, Girard, etc.), so I'm thinking that we shouldn't be giving out longer term, big cap hit contracts to 32 year old UFAs, not matter who they are. There's no reason to unnecessarily complicate our cap situation after year 1 of the youth movement.
 

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I expect Bergevin to badly overpay for either Stastny or Bozak. I guess he throws 7M a year for 4-5 year at Stastny.
 

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No matter where he signs this summer, he should send Bergevin a beautiful thank you gift for driving his price up.
 
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DRW204

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I could definitely see him coming back to St. Louis.

On second thought, maybe that chapter has closed. There is a quote in a TSN story that waiving his NTC and going to WPG was one of the best decisions he ever made and it made hockey fun again. Yeo already losing the room in STL? We saw how that all played out in Minnesota.
https://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-could-stastny-stay-in-winnipeg-1.1091479
Eh take it with a grain of salt. he said this at press conference where the audience was all mostly, if not all WPG media. What else is he gonna say?
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Jets had similar C depth and got wrecked by an expansion team. How about the leafs stop spending money on forwards that provide offense and start spending money on defense that provide defense.


They need a D man, doesn't change the fact they need a 3rd line center
 

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Stastny makes $7 million now and was excellent (really, as good as ever) down the stretch and in the playoffs. And the UFA market for centers is extremely weak in depth. No reason to think somebody’s not going to probably match what he is currently making.

I’d say start thinking around the $35-36 million contract total range maybe 5 year, $7 million or 6 years, $6 million. Yeah, it’s gonna be dead weight at the end of the deal but if you are going to play in the UFA pool - that’s the price you pay.

The quickness with which the Kane deal got done and the expense show that GM’s generally think the cap is going to keep rising and that with another round of expansion and CBA talks they may have ways of “paying the piper” later for instant gratification now, even on a guy who will be aging like Stastny. As much as I love the idea of him taking a discount to come back to Denver, I think that’s wishful thinking and even then, a discount price is still probably $6-6.5 million on a long term deal for a guy who will be 33 this year. Howl all you want but Paulie is going to get paid, big time, yet again.
 

Ararana

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The Avs are swimming in cap space for next season, and probably the year after that. But, in the next year or three, we're going to be giving a lot of young kids raises (Rantanen, Zadorov, Jost, Compher, Girard, etc.), so I'm thinking that we shouldn't be giving out longer term, big cap hit contracts to 32 year old UFAs, not matter who they are. There's no reason to unnecessarily complicate our cap situation after year 1 of the youth movement.

Rantanen, Z, and maybe Jost are the only ones who are really going to cost us before Soderbergs 4.7 mil fall off the books. With the cap going up I think you're making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. If Stastny is the only big UFA signing Sakic should have no problem extended everyone currently on the roster.

I will give you him being 32 isn't the most ideal. That 35+ contract will not be fun in the last year or two.
 

stl76

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I could definitely see him coming back to St. Louis.

On second thought, maybe that chapter has closed. There is a quote in a TSN story that waiving his NTC and going to WPG was one of the best decisions he ever made and it made hockey fun again. Yeo already losing the room in STL? We saw how that all played out in Minnesota.
https://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-could-stastny-stay-in-winnipeg-1.1091479
Quote from Stastny in that article:

Paul Stastny said:
Every door is open. I never look that far down the road because in the past I've done that, you think something is going to happen (and) it doesn’t...We all know there are a lot of players who need to be signed here. There’s not just one person. When you have success like this, a lot of guys need to get rewarded. And you’ve got to take care of those young guys first. Those guys really earned it. We’ll talk with Chevy down the road.

Consummate professional...how can you not love this guy?
 

Yukon Joe

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If I were Stastny, I'd be thinking less about chasing every last dollar, and more about finding a situation where he feels comfortable. That could very well be St. Louis - he basically grew up there after his dad retired, his wife is from there, and that's where his kids have grown up.

Or it could be Winnipeg - he did very obviously seem to enjoy playing there. And a sense of "unfinished business" might drive him to stay.

But if you take say a crazy 7x7 deal, you're almost immediately going to face criticism that you're not living up to your contract, fans will be all over you - who needs that kind of hassle?
 

BKarchitect

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Stastny should be plenty comfortable with the burden of a big contract. He was on $6.6 million starting in 2009 and his expiring $7 million per deal was signed in the summer of ‘14. Both with much, much lower caps for the league. Stastny has always been among the most highly paid centers in the NHL relative to his contract signing dates.

He’s has always been a great teammate but if St. Louis, Winnipeg and Colorado all want him back (and all three very much could use him) and if Toronto looks like an amazing situation to slide into and if the Habs offer something crazy for him to be their #1 center for a historic franchise - he will have plenty of options which will appear very comfortable outside the pure cash element. Which means that discount some fans of certain teams may be dreaming of isn’t going to be much.
 

IWantSakicAsMyGM

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Rantanen, Z, and maybe Jost are the only ones who are really going to cost us before Soderbergs 4.7 mil fall off the books. With the cap going up I think you're making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. If Stastny is the only big UFA signing Sakic should have no problem extended everyone currently on the roster.

I will give you him being 32 isn't the most ideal. That 35+ contract will not be fun in the last year or two.

I have a tendency to err on the side of caution, so you could be right that I'm worried about something that won't be a problem. And, I think you are absolutely correct that Rantanen and Zadorov are likely going to be the only big contracts we hand out, but I'm still expecting raises for guys like Nemeth, Nieto, Compher, Kerfoot, and Andrighetto. They won't be big raises, but 1-2 million dollar raises for most of them will add up. All told, I think we're going to be adding around $15-18m to our cap just by re-signing our RFAs next year. And the year after that, Jost and Girard will need new contracts, and Barrie's next contract will be kicking in (assuming he's not traded). Yes, Varly and Soderberg will be coming off the books, but we still need a long term goaltending solution, and to add some other long term pieces (a 2nd line scoring winger?). Spending big money on a short term upgrade like Stastny limits some of our options to address those issues, and possibly lead to issues extending guys that are better long term options than Stastny. None of it's set in stone, but I think having the cap flexibility to handle potential issues is a good thing.
 
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hilarnat

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Bergevin will absolutely make an aggressive offer. Stastny will definitively get more money than he should. Like a lot of people here, I wouldn't be surprised at all he gets 6 x 7M.
 

ole ole

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He should get 3 to 4 years at 5 to 6 million. But an angry Bergevin could give him good term up to 7.5 aav because Tavares told him to **** off.
Pretty sure Chiarelli would outbid M.B. Knowing Chiarelli he's probably trade RNH in hopes of getting a true winger like Patches just to make room for Stastny at C.
 

EDMOILERS9729

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Pretty sure Chiarelli would outbid M.B. Knowing Chiarelli he's probably trade RNH in hopes of getting a true winger like Patches just to make room for Stastny at C.
We dont need more centers even with Nuge out for a "true" winger. Mcdavid-Draisaitl-Strome down the middle is more than good enough.
 

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