Player Discussion Patrik Laine: Part 2 - Healthy Living Edition

It does, you can put many other highly paid players (who have been successful in good lines) in a bad spot and get bad results. Do you know Jeff Skinner?

Slaf was a ghost in that line when he played in it. Everyone has been. Roy, Heineman, Newhook, Dach.

There is a MASSIVE difference between Laine playing with better than current linemates. I've seen it many times, so I would want you to get to see it too . Next season you'll get it.
They are all ghosts yet produce more 5v5 in the same situation than the $9m player. Got it.

Like I don’t understand this defence of the highest paid player on the team. It’s okay to admit it’s just not good enough.

And it’s not just the production. The eye test tell us he’s awful most of the time too.
 
They are all ghosts yet produce more 5v5 in the same situation than the $9m player. Got it.

Watch the games. Newhook does not create chances to Laine, it goes the other way. So in that scenario Laine is dependent on Newhook to use those chances, to get points. Newhook can't score, neither can Roy and Heineman hasn't been able to either. He did a lot better with Evans.

They have all been ghosts. Nobody has made 2nd line good this year.

Laine scores when Suzuki and Hutson are on the ice, because they CAN create shooting opportunity to Laine. Which is what you want, him shooting.
 
Watch the games. Newhook does not create chances to Laine, it goes the other way. So in that scenario Laine is dependent on Newhook to use those chances, to get points. Newhook can't score, neither can Roy and Heineman hasn't been able to either. He did a lot better with Evans.

They have all been ghosts. Nobody has made 2nd line good this year.

Laine scores when Suzuki and Hutson are on the ice, because they CAN create.
Newhook is paid one-third of the salary and is still producing more per 60 5v5 than Laine.
 
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They are all ghosts yet produce more 5v5 in the same situation than the $9m player. Got it.

Like I don’t understand this defence of the highest paid player on the team. It’s okay to admit it’s just not good enough.

And it’s not just the production. The eye test tell us he’s awful most of the time too.
I dont think youll find a lot of peope that think hes worth 9 millions, weird argument.
 
Just admit his faults.. he has an elite offensive toolkit but right now he is a legitimately stationary cannon on the PP.

He is not adding anything outside of that and when he has to handle the puck under pressure on the PP, it's a turnover most of the time

It's OK to admit he's not playing that well right now.
 
So your assessment is that Newhook is a better player than Laine? I just want that quote for when they're separated
I think right now he is playing far better 5v5 hockey than Laine. And I don’t even like Newhook. But considering the chances he’s missed, at least he gets them. I don’t recall the last time Laine had a scoring chance 5v5.
 
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I think right now he is playing far better 5v5 hockey than Laine. And I don’t even like Newhook. But considering the chances he’s missed, at least he gets them. I don’t recall the last time Laine had a scoring chance 5v5.

You're almost there....
 
He’s improving. We’ll see what happens next year when he’s healthier with better linemates.

But you can’t ignore his work on the PP. Best PP performer in the league. I’m sure we’d have converted on some of those PPs without him but can we really say that we’d be in a playoff spot? I don’t think so.

He’s contributing and that’s what matters. I agree people are conflating 5 on 5 with overall - but it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme. Let’s just see how he plays next year. I’m hopeful we’ll see an improvement.

What was the % of succes for the pp in the first 25game when Laine wasn't there? Im curious, I don't remember .
 
Just admit his faults.. he has an elite offensive toolkit but right now he is a legitimately stationary cannon on the PP.

He is not adding anything outside of that and when he has to handle the puck under pressure on the PP, it's a turnover most of the time

It's OK to admit he's not playing that well right now.
It’s kind of crazy the people trying to draw a different portrait of what’s happening on the ice. We like to shit on Gallagher because of his contract, but a) he gives 110% and b) he actually produces. And even he makes $2.5m less than Laine.

Then they’ll point to minutes played. Yeah I wonder why Laine’s minutes are so low. Could it be because even the coach knows he’s playing like shit?
 
If you’re insinuating that Newhook is getting his chances because of Laine, then you’re just lying. I see Newhook trying to skate around 3 players using his speed because he has a linemate that can’t skate

You got there! Unfortunately you immediately failed.

Yeah I see Newhook trying to do that too when he should drop pass or turn and look for options. When he has options behind and on the side. He doesn't see them.

But the other way it works like this (look at my LIES!)

 
If you’re insinuating that Newhook is getting his chances because of Laine, then you’re just lying. I see Newhook trying to skate around 3 players using his speed because he has a linemate that can’t skate

I can't watch much live games, but in my highly biased memory, the highlight reels are 50-60 on Newhook skating (and not scoring) or Laine passing (and him still not scoring).
 
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You got there! Unfortunately you immediately failed.

Yeah I see Newhook trying to do that too when he should drop pass or turn and look for options. When he has options behind and on the side. He doesn't see them.

But the other way it works like this (look at my LIES!)


Damn one clip. Should I show you a highlight reel of Pezzetta? You’d think we was an all-star.

I’ll just keep repeating

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.
 
Damn one clip. Should I show you a highlight reel of Pezzetta? You’d think we was an all-star.

I’ll just keep repeating

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.

Laine has less 5v5 points than Jayden Struble.

Sorry I'm not in on the forum meta, could you explain that one more time?
 

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