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Player Discussion Patrik Laine: Part 2 - Healthy Living Edition

Laine -Newhook- Heineman will be great third line. Adding Ehlers as an UFA and trading for Lundell willed to a great top-9 with a strong forechecking 4th line:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Ehlers - Lundell - Demidov
Laine - Newhook- Heineman
Anderson- Evans - Gallagher

In four years:

Caufield - Suzuki - Demidov
Ehlers - Lundell - Slafkovsky
Laine - Hage - Kapanen
Newhook - Beck - Heineman
 
Calendal said:
If indeed he skates much better on some days that sounds very much injury related. ”Some days you just warm up better than others.”
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It's possible but I kind of doubt that's really the reason. He's been skating well on the backcheck for a month or more now but offensively he was just always choosing to stop skating once he got the puck and try to slow down the play. He still did it this game but less so, the highlight being the time he drove the net and got in all alone.

My feeling is that Heineman's style of game gives/creates Laine a better options. But it's one game so hard to say for sure, hopefully we will see it continue.
 
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OneSharpMarble said:
So we can expect 8 goals in a season? Very impressive.
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Look at Sam Reinhart in Florida, 2021/22 - 2023/24 season

2021/22 - 78 games, 16 goals in PP, 14 goals in 5v5
2022/23 - 81 games, 16 goals in PP, 9 goals in 5v5
2023/24 - 82 games, 27 goals in PP, 20 goals in 5v5

and now Laine, in 2021/22 - 2022/23

2021/22 - 56 games, 5 goals in PP, 14 goals in 5v5
2022/23 - 55 games, 8 goals in PP, 13 goals in 5v5

I doubt FLA wanted to trade Reinhart after 2022/23 season.

But fine, trade Laine. He's gotten some much-needed practice with you. He'll have full training this summer and there's a good chance he'll be ready for the 2025/26 season. 😏
 
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VT said:
Look at Sam Reinhart in Florida, 2021/22 - 2023/24 season

2021/22 - 78 games, 16 goals in PP, 14 goals in 5v5
2022/23 - 81 games, 16 goals in PP, 9 goals in 5v5
2023/24 - 82 games, 27 goals in PP, 20 goals in 5v5

and now Laine, in 2021/22 - 2022/23

2021/22 - 56 games, 5 goals in PP, 14 goals in 5v5
2022/23 - 55 games, 8 goals in PP, 13 goals in 5v5

I doubt FLA wanted to trade Reinhart after 2022/23 season.

But fine, trade Laine. He's gotten some much-needed practice with you. He'll have full training this summer and there's a good chance he'll be ready for the 2025/26 season. 😏
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No one said anything about trading him but there is very good reason to move him off the top 6. I dunno maybe it just has something to do with watching the games but hey you keep watching some random stats like it means something. 😏
 
I thought he had a better game and that Heineman should stay with them. Add someone else on the fourth, Kapanen should be available soon.
 
OneSharpMarble said:
No one said anything about trading him but there is very good reason to move him off the top 6. I dunno maybe it just has something to do with watching the games but hey you keep watching some random stats like it means something. 😏
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I see no sense in playing a top 4 fwd in bottom 6. I'd want him to play more, not less.

What is the good reason to move him off top 6? So someone worse gets more minutes? I don't see any logic here
 
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OneSharpMarble said:
Every single forward (except Roy) on the team has more even strength goals than Laine. Is that a good start?
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Ok so you think Montreal has better offensive forwards than Laine in 3rd and 4th lines. You think they would generate more offense with Roy and Newhook.

That is, uhh..interesting
 
OneSharpMarble said:
No one said anything about trading him but there is very good reason to move him off the top 6. I dunno maybe it just has something to do with watching the games but hey you keep watching some random stats like it means something. 😏
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He's not playing ideally in 5v5 at the moment, although he's improved. What I keep writing. I'm alluding to his goal ratio in PP and 5v5 and also questioning his ability to play great in 5v5, btw I recently posted a link to a page where there are detailed stats. On a side note, as a CBJ fan, I did see him play for us. Therefore, I can imagine how he can play when he is not limited by injury/mental issues. Especially since even with us he was injured in the 2021/22 and 2022/23 seasons, which didn't stop him from playing well most games. In doing so, he didn't have a TOP center and played better without Johnny Gaudreau.

About playing second line, depending on the ice time, it's more like third line, sometimes fourth line.

To trade. Laine is a TOP 6 player. If your guys don't want him there, they will trade him.
 
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I haven’t watched in the last few months but before that, I liked his game quite a bit besides the skating which likely seems knee related. Great passer.

Hope he gets surgery or whatever he needs in the offseason. I think he can be a lot better but even still, this guy’s practically prime Ovi on the PP. You can’t ignore that kind of weapon. I’d gamble on keeping him for sure. Doesn’t even feel like that much a gamble honestly.
 
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in that one spot in PP, he is gold.

I dont like much of what he does otherwise. He will try to shoot at times where the best play is to keep possession, or create turnovers because he shoots or tries to deke in. I find he misses a lot of chances to keep his mouth shut off the ice too.
 
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I see no sense in playing a top 4 fwd in bottom 6. I'd want him to play more, not less.

What is the good reason to move him off top 6? So someone worse gets more minutes? I don't see any logic here
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I am ok with him on third line and 1st PP. I find he turns over the puck too much on even strength , always trying to take a shot. He also thinks he can skate it to the net but he really doesnt manage to do that often imo.
 
Gaud said:
I am ok with him on third line and 1st PP. I find he turns over the puck too much on even strength , always trying to take a shot. He also thinks he can skate it to the net but he really doesnt manage to do that often imo.
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I have zero faith in anyone from the other lines coming in replacing Laine and making that line more productive. Laine is the best player outside of the 1st line, so I'd much rather have him out there for those minutes than any other option available.

It would likely be more productive than now, if one or two others got replaced instead. But they want to keep Armia and Evans together in 3rd because they are the PK plan.

I'd rather see Laine-Kapanen-Heineman as the 2nd line than what it is now. I know Newhook is playing better than earlier but he has very limited tools outside the skating. Roy is in it because he's a warm body.

2nd line SHOULD be more offensive and trying those high risk/high reward things that Laine does (which can lead to turnovers, but usually quite far from our net and they don't end up costing).
 
If we are losing Laine, Hutson would have loose 10-15 assists. No way Anderson or Gallagher would have put the puck in the net like Laine does. You need that kind of guy wich win a game by himself even if the entire team play badly. Sometimes he is gonna be quiet, but the rest of the team will take the control. If we are to lose Laine, we gonna take a big step back.
 
Gaud said:
I am ok with him on third line and 1st PP. I find he turns over the puck too much on even strength , always trying to take a shot. He also thinks he can skate it to the net but he really doesnt manage to do that often imo.
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This is the way

I would love to keep him for our PP, but people pretending he’s a good 5v5 player and capable of playing top 6 minutes are lying
 
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Laine is definitely a bit unidimensional. But the dimension he bring help the team a lot. He might not score a lot on ES but hes a lethal weapon on the PP that terrorize the league. He missed basically half the season and hes still gonna get 20-25 goals scoring on the PP. I hope they find a way to keep him long term just for that
 
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