Player Discussion Patrik Laine: Part 2 - Healthy Living Edition

[tazsub3]

I guess most of the medical doctors in this thread are disappointed.
But thanks, was looking for this info.

I guess most if not all of them graduated with an honors degree from the school of mark recchi for medicine

 

[le_sean]

I am curious as to the last time a Habs player missed multiple games on two separate occasions in the same season because of the flu. It’s the first time I’ve heard this happening.

 

[HuGort]

Our cap situation relative to roster needs is perfectly fine.

We've got 11.5M$ in cap room, not counting Price's LTIR contract, and all 3 retention spots as of July 1.

Dobes, Strubble & Heineman are the only RFAs to sign, none of which are going to get huge raises.

Unless there is internal assessment that he isn't a culture fit, I'd say it's highly unlikely they trade Laine before the season starts.

Canadiens be looking to contend next season. They really need to address top 2 center and right D this offseason. Not going to be easy, need to keep every option open. Waste 9m in caproom for 2nd round pick Not good.

Laine negative asset on team.

 

[Miller Time]

Canadiens be looking to contend next season.

I'm sure everyone would love that... Not so sure anyone with realistic expectations thinks this roster will be a legit contender in 12 months.

They really need to address top 2 center and right D this offseason.

What 2C & 1RD are available straight up (ie at no cost to existing NHL roster players & within cap constraints ) this offseason that would push us into contention?

needing magic beans isn't a "need", it's fantasy

Not going to be easy, need to keep every option open. Waste 9m in caproom for 2nd round pick Not good.

This season & the hockey the young core is playing right now is far from a "waste".

Go check our record without Laine. Nuff said.

Laine negative asset on team.

Nonsense.

 

[Habssince89]

What 2C & 1RD are available straight up (ie at no cost to existing NHL roster players & within cap constraints ) this offseason that would push us into contention?

My only nitpick with your post is the bolded. We need a top4 RD, not a 1D.

I don't think they will have to get an elite player at either position, and we have alot of assets and it isn't a pile of middling picks and prospects. I don't think it's unrealistic to think Hughes can find a centre who can be even an average 2nd liner or a RD that can solidify our defensive game. The question of who is available is TBD. Gotta play the year out and wait for the draft/off season

 

[BergevinBurner]

I am curious as to the last time a Habs player missed multiple games on two separate occasions in the same season because of the flu. It’s the first time I’ve heard this happening.

I can't judge because last year from January to July I had like 6 seperate flus that lasted a week+ each. Haven't had one since then, and before that I hadn't had one in years.

If he's still showing symptoms I'm fine with him taking as much time as necessary. It'd be a disaster if he came back early and the flu went around the locker room.

 

[Demigod]

For me it will all depend of what he wants for contract. Nothing more than 3 years for this guys, he's never been healthy and he's not good enough to drive his line.

He could be useful for our PP moving forward but what kind of contract you think would make sense for a player like him moving forward? (let's say he's healthy next season and produce around 30 goals)

 

[LaineBOOM]

For me it will all depend of what he wants for contract. Nothing more than 3 years for this guys, he's never been healthy and he's not good enough to drive his line.

He could be useful for our PP moving forward but what kind of contract you think would make sense for a player like him moving forward? (let's say he's healthy next season and produce around 30 goals)

3 x 6m for Habs imo. But Im pretty sure there are some teams out there that will be willing to go like 5 x 7m. If someone loses their mind and/or sees that Laine can still become a stud they will definitely be willing to pay up, 6 x 8m+.

 

[HuGort]

I'm sure everyone would love that... Not so sure anyone with realistic expectations thinks this roster will be a legit contender in 12 months.


What 2C & 1RD are available straight up (ie at no cost to existing NHL roster players & within cap constraints ) this offseason that would push us into contention?

needing magic beans isn't a "need", it's fantasy

This season & the hockey the young core is playing right now is far from a "waste".

Go check our record without Laine. Nuff said.


Nonsense.

Laine lacks character and work ethic to be championship caliber player. Really want him off the team. Don't want it to spread. Do not try build on players with this demeanor. Will be disaster.

Montreal needs to address top 2 center. Lack of #2 center killed Canadiens this season. Dach cannot be counted on. Will not be cheap. An UFA like Bennett Habs need to overpay, likely grossly overpay. Still then, slim chance he signs here. If trade will take core piece. Probably sign an Ehlers to replace player we give up. Mailloux 50/50 may go also. Locals say Habs offered him as partial payment for centers at deadline. Cozens was one. They can't be high on him
Habs need to address right D also in future as it. It looks thin and inexperienced.

 

[NotCommitted]

I sincerely think his physical composition is very, very bad. I think a somewhat athletic normal guy would be faster, stronger, and more balanced and have better stamina than him.

Come on He might be playing on a bad knee and it's very possible his conditioning past 1.5 years hasn't been where it needs to be for a top NHL player, but he would 100% absolutely crush your "somewhat athletic normal guys". Even if he did no training whatsoever through the worst of it, he has 10+ years athletic baseline and few months of off-season after he decided to come back to hockey. The preseason injury of course ruined some of that, but you gotta keep in mind you are comparing him against the very best and fastest hockey players of the world.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

Laine lacks character and work ethic to be championship caliber player. Really want him off the team. Don't want it to spread. Do not try build on players with this demeanor. Will be disaster.

Montreal needs to address top 2 center. Lack of #2 center killed Canadiens this season. Dach cannot be counted on. Will not be cheap. An UFA like Bennett Habs need to overpay, likely grossly overpay. Still then, slim chance he signs here. If trade will take core piece. Probably sign an Ehlers to replace player we give up. Mailloux 50/50 may go also. Locals say Habs offered him as partial payment for centers at deadline. Cozens was one. They can't be high on him
Habs need to address right D also in future as it. It looks thin and inexperienced.

We should have just paid a little extra to keep Monahan. We had the exact second line C we wanted and the one we now desperately need.

 

[Miller Time]

Laine lacks character and work ethic to be championship caliber player.

He's won international championships

Really want him off the team. Don't want it to spread. Do not try build on players with this demeanor. Will be disaster.

Fair. I don't agree about the "disaster" doom and gloom, but I certainly wouldn't want to re-sign him at the same or greater cap hit based on the injury realities.

Montreal needs to address top 2 center. Lack of #2 center killed Canadiens this season.

Arguably, Laine's injury is why we aren't a playoff lock right now & imo Guhle's injury is hurting us more than our C depth. We are thinner at top 4 D than at C.

Dach cannot be counted on. Will not be cheap. An UFA like Bennett Habs need to overpay, likely grossly overpay. Still then, slim chance he signs here. If trade will take core piece. Probably sign an Ehlers to replace player we give up. Mailloux 50/50 may go also. Locals say Habs offered him as partial payment for centers at deadline. Cozens was one. They can't be high on him
Habs need to address right D also in future as it. It looks thin and inexperienced.

Yes, we are in year 3 of a full rebuild.

 

[The Great Weal]

Whether or not he's a headcase, not committed, and has an awful overall game, we desperately need him during this stretch. He is very clearly missed on the 2nd line.