Patrik Laine is in some elite company

[Kaako Kappo]

Catching Crosby would require a generational March

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[RageQuit77]

Jets 1.0 and Jets 2.0 franchises have somewhat disproportional representation on that list.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Useless, many players start their NHL career at age 19.
Players who could be on that list if they started a year earlier.

Cherrypicking

 

[Hagged]

If you do that for total points instead of just goals, Laine is nowhere near top 10. Cherrypicking only goals to make Laine show up on the lists? Why not secondary assists then, Laine wouldn't even be in top 100 in that category I guess.

 

[RageQuit77]

Useless, many players start their NHL career at age 19.

Useless, that's the list of top goal scorers in their teens. If you're so damn good player and goal scorer, what exactly prevents you to get there too as early as possible?

 

[Khomutov]

If you do that for total points instead of just goals, Laine is nowhere near top 10. Cherrypicking only goals to make Laine show up on the lists? Why not secondary assists then, Laine wouldn't even be in top 100 in that category I guess.

Because goals>secondary assists

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Useless, that's the list of top goal scorers in their teens. If you're so damn good player and goal scorer, what exactly prevents you to get there too as early as possible?

We have a winner here.

Lets shut down this website, so we dont have to talk about hockey anymore.

 

[Helistin]

We have a winner here.

Lets shut down this website, so we dont have to talk hockey anymore.

I don't think you getting upset with people who see a hole in your logic is a good reason to close the website.

 

[ImpartialNHLfan]

Hopefully he follows up this historical February into March.

 

[BB88]

Useless, many players start their NHL career at age 19.
Players who could be on that list if they started a year earlier.

Cherrypicking

If a player was ready to be a +30 goal scorer they would be on the roster at 18y.

 

[RageQuit77]

We have a winner here.

Lets shut down this website, so we dont have to talk about hockey anymore.

Nothing personal. NHL (and various other agencies) apparently values such kind age statistics high enough to actually track and publish them. It's not my fault he is there on the list, but nobody can twist that fact as it would be somehow bad display of Laine the hockey player.

 

[Esko6]

If you do that for total points instead of just goals, Laine is nowhere near top 10. Cherrypicking only goals to make Laine show up on the lists? Why not secondary assists then, Laine wouldn't even be in top 100 in that category I guess.

Well, the 80's had drastically higher scoring too.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

If you do that for total points instead of just goals, Laine is nowhere near top 10. Cherrypicking only goals to make Laine show up on the lists? Why not secondary assists then, Laine wouldn't even be in top 100 in that category I guess.

If you do that for total points, then by the time Laine turns 20 he'll be at around #15-17 on all time list. I'm sure you'll find a way to twist that into meaninglessness too.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Good for Patrick.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

If a player was ready to be a +30 goal scorer they would be on the roster at 18y.

I hope you are just kidding.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

I'll hit you with a similar stat. If Marner hits 60 points this year, only one of this year's top 25 scorers (Crosby) can say he had two 60+ point seasons before turning 21 as Mitch would have done.

It's neither here nor there and doesn't mean he's better than all those guys. More of a fun fact.

 

[BB88]

I hope you are just kidding.

How?

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Nothing personal. NHL (and various other agencies) apparently values such kind age statistics high enough to actually track and publish them. It's not my fault he is there on the list, but nobody can twist that fact as it would be somehow bad display of Laine the hockey player.

I am actually a big fan of Patrick.

I dont like statistics that are biased though.

We are dealing with lock outs, European players who rather play one more year at home, NHL teams that are very cautious with their top prospects, age/draft year... etc etc.

It is how it is, I just think its useless.

How?

See above

 

[JetsHomer]

How?

33% of players aren’t even drafted until their age 18 season

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'll hit you with a similar stat. If Marner hits 60 points this year, only one of this year's top 25 scorers (Crosby) can say he had two 60+ point seasons before turning 21 as Mitch would have done.

It's neither here nor there and doesn't mean he's better than all those guys. More of a fun fact.

That's quite the odd distinction to make, as due to birthday you're already restricting that group of 25 players to guys who played in their draft +1 season or were born after May.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

That's quite the odd distinction to make, as due to birthday you're already restricting that group of 25 players to guys who played in their draft +1 season or were born after May.

It's not only a really bad example, it is also not true.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

That's quite the odd distinction to make, as due to birthday you're already restricting that group of 25 players to guys who played in their draft +1 season or were born after May.

I'm glad the point didn't elude you.

 

[RageQuit77]

I fail to see how such kind all-time list of really happened things can be biased anyway. Most career goals as a teenager, it says.

Laine was really 30+ goals guy upon his arrival in age of 18, and that's exactly why he has been able to climb so high on that list.

If someone cherrypicked anything here at all, it was Winnipeg Jets for picking this cherry, and not being too cautious with him there after exactly because he was ready to NHL.

Show me the bias, please.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

It's not only a really bad example, it is also not true.

It was true when I looked the other day. Who did I miss?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'm glad the point didn't elude you.

The point about age? I didn't see where they limited Laine's comparables to the current list of top 25 scorers.