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Patrik Laine’s falloff is wild

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Sasha Orlov said:
I’ve seen enough, make this guy the head coach
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For all team mates to understand their role I added now positions of opponents (red) and Habs (blue) players. I made ice white instead of black so that I can draw the same picture for the guys every time Patty's line goes on the ice:
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Skinnyjimmy08 said:
i heard a wild thing about Laine from someone that is involved with a former team of his.

Laine is extremely addicted to his video games that he cannot play on the TVs in the hotels he stays in and every single city they travel to, the first thing he does is buy a big tv from an electronic store so he can play his video games and then just leaves the TV in the room when they check out of the hotel.

again this is word from an employee of a former team of his. Laine will not leave his room before or after any game to hang out with the guys and is glued to his gaming.

Who knows if its actually 100% true or not so feel free to believe it or not. Just seemed kinda truthful from the employee i heard it from.
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Best Buy loves him
 
He needs so much space to create anything, he's just unable to use his shot in tight spaces at all. That combined with a below average work ethic explain his negative impact 5v5. He's still a top 5 shooter on PP but that's pretty much it at this point.
 
Lshap said:
Where have you been hearing these Habs fans' voices, and what exactly have they been telling you?

The reality is most Habs fans were thrilled to get Laine for almost nothing, for a salary we had plenty of room to afford. His potential was undeniable, as was the risk. Since then, we've seen both. His shot has been a game-changer, but he's also been useless in many games and a handicap with the puck. I'd estimate 95% of Montreal fans know what they're getting with him, for better or worse.
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I would say no one realized he would be this terrible on 5v5. Give him next season to turn it around but we should be prepared to move him off the 2nd line if this continues because he is really dead weight.
 
John Mandalorian said:
You’re dismissing the importance of a short in-season tournament because it’s a short in-season tournament (world juniors) but then you use another short in-season tournament (4 nations) as validation. Daft.
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I was more pointing to their spots on the 4 nation rosters (which were earned primarily off their NHL play over the past 3 years) and current NHL impact.
 
Theodore450 said:
He was playing with 2 wingers including Dach whose barely a 4th line player.

He needs a serious center man with speed and skill and he’ll be fine. Easily a 60p 30 g guy
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We've heard this same song and dance since 2018-19. Laine just needs great players and then he's going to score 100 points and 60 goals. He's on his third team and has had both good and bad line mates. No matter where he plays or with who, his problems are the exact same. He's slow as f***, he's weak as f*** on the boards, he gets gassed quickly and he's not that interested in playing defence. That's on him, no one else can magically fix his problems for him.
 
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LaineBOOM said:
For all team mates to understand their role I added now positions of opponents (red) and Habs (blue) players. I made ice white instead of black so that I can draw the same picture for the guys every time Patty's line goes on the ice:
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Where's the hash marks and faceoff dots/circles? This looks like a Miro painting. Where's the net? Is that an eyeball?
 
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pekka55 said:
We've heard this same song and dance since 2018-19. Laine just needs great players and then he's going to score 100 points and 60 goals. He's on his third team and has had both good and bad line mates. No matter where he plays or with who, his problems are the exact same. He's slow as f***, he's weak as f*** on the boards, he gets gassed quickly and he's not that interested in playing defence. That's on him, no one else can magically fix his problems for him.
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There was such an emotional almost meteroric beginning to his career with MTL. Fans felt like he was going to get 35+ goals and take them to the post-season. Then they were furious for his preseason injury saying "our superstar player was injured by an AHLer making a name for himself." All too often the rollercoaster career of Laine always comes crashing down...
 
Ianturnedbull said:
There was such an emotional almost meteroric beginning to his career with MTL. Fans felt like he was going to get 35+ goals and take them to the post-season. Then they were furious for his preseason injury saying "our superstar player was injured by an AHLer making a name for himself." All too often the rollercoaster career of Laine always comes crashing down...
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A Leafs fan speaking of crashing all too often, lol
 
Bender Duster said:
I don’t think those were Jets fans. Those posters are now over on the Habs boards complaining that he deserves better line mates and more ice time.

Let the record show that Jets fans are all knowledgeable, respected, good looking, pillars of the HF community.
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Yeah it wasn't Jets fans, it was people from Finland signing up here and being extremely annoying.

Laine is what he is at this point.
 
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Skinnyjimmy08 said:
i heard a wild thing about Laine from someone that is involved with a former team of his.

Laine is extremely addicted to his video games that he cannot play on the TVs in the hotels he stays in and every single city they travel to, the first thing he does is buy a big tv from an electronic store so he can play his video games and then just leaves the TV in the room when they check out of the hotel.

again this is word from an employee of a former team of his. Laine will not leave his room before or after any game to hang out with the guys and is glued to his gaming.

Who knows if its actually 100% true or not so feel free to believe it or not. Just seemed very truthful from the employee i heard it from.
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I call horsehockey, any true gamer knows you’ve gotta play on a monitor for the best experience.
 
Going just by the facts we know, this is a player who prior to 23-24 season was depressed to the point he already told his GM during the summer he is not going to come back for the season - ends up changing his mind, suffers several injuries including a broken cavicle (I think it was?) and a bad concussion, playing only 18 games that season before entering the PAP, missing the rest of the season. Gets traded to MTL for peanuts, suffers a severe knee injury in preseason, which initially was thought to be season ending, on a knee that has been operated 4 times prior, including a major surgery after an injury that already put his career in jeopardy years ago.

Now give him the benefit of the doubt and assume this is hardest working guy in the league and ask yourself, are you surprised he's not currently playing anywhere close to his best level? Now be a realist and assume he probably didn't keep his conditioning at a level where it needs to be for an top NHL player through the times he was seriously considering quitting hockey, and then suffers a knee injury during preseason - a preseason he probably sorely needed just to get his skating back to acceptable and ask yourself are you surprised?
 
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NotCommitted said:
Going just by the facts we know, this is a player who prior to 23-24 season was depressed to the point he already told his GM during the summer he is not going to come back for the season - ends up changing his mind, suffers several injuries including a broken cavicle (I think it was?) and a bad concussion, playing only 18 games that season before entering the PAP, missing the rest of the season. Gets traded to MTL for peanuts, suffers a severe knee injury in preseason, which initially was thought to be season ending, on a knee that has been operated 4 times prior, including a major surgery after an injury that already put his career in jeopardy years ago.

Now give him the benefit of the doubt and assume this is hardest working guy in the league and ask yourself, are you surprised he's not currently playing anywhere close to his best level? Now be a realist and assume he probably didn't keep his conditioning at a level where it needs to be for an top NHL player through the times he was seriously considering quitting hockey, and then suffers a knee injury during preseason - a preseason he probably sorely needed just to get his skating back to acceptable and ask yourself are you surprised?
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Exactly, Jackets gave Montreal a 2nd to take him. You'd think that was the rock bottom and this is him coming back slowly.
 
NotCommitted said:
Going just by the facts we know, this is a player who prior to 23-24 season was depressed to the point he already told his GM during the summer he is not going to come back for the season - ends up changing his mind, suffers several injuries including a broken cavicle (I think it was?) and a bad concussion, playing only 18 games that season before entering the PAP, missing the rest of the season. Gets traded to MTL for peanuts, suffers a severe knee injury in preseason, which initially was thought to be season ending, on a knee that has been operated 4 times prior, including a major surgery after an injury that already put his career in jeopardy years ago.

Now give him the benefit of the doubt and assume this is hardest working guy in the league and ask yourself, are you surprised he's not currently playing anywhere close to his best level? Now be a realist and assume he probably didn't keep his conditioning at a level where it needs to be for an top NHL player through the times he was seriously considering quitting hockey, and then suffers a knee injury during preseason - a preseason he probably sorely needed just to get his skating back to acceptable and ask yourself are you surprised?
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Most people would give him the benefit of the doubt if he himself wasn't such a cocky asshole most of the time.

From what I've seen and heard, he seems to think that because he was the 2nd overall pick in the draft, somehow he's entitled to be treated as a king and doesn't have to bother with the not so pleasant things that come with being a top pro athlete. He's not bigger than the team and he got told that in Winnipeg by a few players. He really didn't like that at all when the more experienced players called him out and then he started sulking.

Sure, he's also had some bad luck with injuries etc. and that has to be taken into account also, but it's hard to feel sorry for a guy that is overly cocky and arrogant and then has to eat crow when he finds out that he's actually not that good when playing against the very best players in the world 82 games in a season plus playoffs. Most people do not realize how incredibly gruelling it is to play 82 regular season games of hockey against the top players in the world. You want to do that and at the same time play 12 hour marathons of Fortnite a few times a week, well then good luck with trying to keep your mind and body intact.
 
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