Former Bruins Patrice Bergeron - elected to HOCKEY HALL of FAME
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neelynugs
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Bergeron’s Bruins stat rankings:
Goals: 427 - 3rd all-time.
Assists: 613 - 4th all-time.
Points: 1040 - 3rd all-time.
I only looked this up and posted it because i was curious about the numbers myself. Everyone knows what I think of Patrice Bergeron. Make of these numbers what you will.
EDIT: since we’re being inflammatory today, I’ll throw some gasoline on this fire. I’ll go as far as to say that Patrice Bergeron is more deserving of having his number retired than a couple that are already up there. I’ll never say who, since that’s my opinion, but Bergeron has more than earned this honor.
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Donnie Shulzhoffer
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Gee. I never knew the numbers till now after watching his whole career.
I watched his whole career, too, but I didn’t know his numbers or the rankings off the top of my head.
I guess I didn’t pay attention as closely as you did.
My bad.
If that's not Rafter-worthy then I don't know what is! Even if they decided to cap the amount of numbers in the rafters at five maximum, he would still deserve to be there, just by his stats alone.
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Bruinaura
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You came into this thread while everyone is celebrating a great Bruin’s career… with an incredibly contrary position and zero rationale for it.
Someone posts some actual evidence and you again offer nothing but pithy sarcasm.
Are we to just assume you’re not trolling?
Gonzothe7thDman
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Wish there wasn't so many disappointments during his career, ending with one of the worst. For a guy we all think of as a great leader, the teams around him seemed to shrink in the big moments.
Truly grateful for 2011. But I'll always feel the Bergeron era Bruins should have had 1 or two more with the amount of regular season success they were able to put out during his career.
Great Bruin, one of my favorites. Never liked the tradition of retiring #s, but honoring them made more sense to me.
Truly grateful for 2011. But I'll always feel the Bergeron era Bruins should have had 1 or two more with the amount of regular season success they were able to put out during his career.
Great Bruin, one of my favorites. Never liked the tradition of retiring #s, but honoring them made more sense to me.
There is definitely a case to be made over the course of his career that if you shut down Bergeron in the playoffs, you beat the Bruins. 2012 he had just 2 assists against the Caps, +0. 2014 the Habs kept him scoreless and -3 through the last 4 games. In 2019 against the Blues he had 4 points, all coming in just 2 games, and was -4 for the series. Tampa kept him to 2 assists in 2020. Even back in 2013, Toronto had him nullified with just 1 goal through 6 games until of course he broke through and broke the Leafs in G7. There are exceptions - Bergy had good series against the Sens in '17 and the Canes in '22, and Boston lost anyway. But still, it's notable.
But rather than see this as criticism I think it more points to a) all players are human, even the greats, and especially, b) just how important he was to the team and its success. Memory and a quick jog back through the stats tend to reinforce this through the other side of the coin too - I'm quite sure there'd be very few series in which he had little positive impact that the Bruins still won.
The two most disappointing moments re Bergeron in particular I think undoubtedly would be his getting outplayed by O'Reilly in 2019, which sucks but it happens, and his forcing his way back onto the team in 2023 against the Panthers when he was clearly not fit. That one was pure stubbornness or pride, and a weak coach. It is what it is.
However obviously you have to weigh those against the good, and there's an awful lot more of that. I do think the point about his era leaving something on the table is accurate. Folks will dispute it 'til the end of time but it's how I see it as well. But ultimately no single player can be held accountable for it, and there is no doubt that falling short in the big moments has been an unfortunate Bruins trait for decades. History weighs heavy sometimes.
End of the day he brought a lot of people an incredible amount of happiness and demonstrated his ability and character many times over. I don't really like the whole number retiring thing either, but for better or worse it exists and I think by any sensible criteria Bergy has earned it. So well done to him, should be a great night whenever it takes place.
Add the 6 Selke in a Bruins jersey, All Star game presences as a Bruins representative, 1294 games played from the beginning to the end with the Bruins, never player elsewhere and more... imo he was a great Boston Bruins representatives on and out the ice.
The decision of retiring the jersey is from those that draft him, paid him and know what he was and brought to the table!
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2022-23 was my favorite team, and while yes, I was absolutely gutted in the postseason, I'm not going to deny that I enjoyed the heck out of watching that regular season as it happened. That's what made the first round exit hurt so much. Still doesn't take away that I enjoyed 65 wins. There were a lot of really fun games.
Bergy will always be my favorite. Was he perfect, of course not (i despised the perfection line moniker). But he was really good and a unique player. I'm happy he got a Cup. When you take into consideration all the concussion issues, it's amazing he had the lengthy career that he did. And all for the Bruins, even better.
I'm happy for him, now he gets to enjoy his family and if he ever wants to get back into hockey in an official capacity, I'm sure he'll do well in any role.
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Well deserved. Onward to a first vote induction into the Hall of Fame. Pure class.
Rick Middleton did not get his number retired for 30 years, Bergeron gets his number retired in 3 years, a little in balance there I would say.
I agree, number retiring should be only for the best that ever played the game, Orr, Howe, Richard, Gretzky, Hull types, it just a cash cow now.
I believe the Bruins were the first team in any sport to retire a number (Lionel Hitchman - #3).
I agree that too many numbers get retired, but given Bergeron’s regular season and playoff stats, he’s an all-time Bruins great.
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I see the usual suspects are in here embarrassing themselves as always
ODAAT
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I , for one, am all in on Bergy to the rafters, I feel that`s all I need to say 
It's interesting that among many fans, there seems to be a history bias when it comes to judging who were the greatest Bruins of all time. For some reason, the passing years burnish the legends of the great players of yesteryear – Orr, Esposito, Cashman, etc. – and they all deserve to be legends, of course. But when you look at the team's all-time stats list, a lot of the top-10 names are players that we've all watched in recent years: Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci, Pastrnak.
I guess it's a fairly common human trait, to be mostly blind to the history that's happening in front of our eyes. It only becomes "historical" when we read about it in history books years down the road. Just because we watched these players play on 60-inch flatscreen plasma TVs, instead of in black-and-white, doesn't mean that they're not all-time greats.
I guess it's a fairly common human trait, to be mostly blind to the history that's happening in front of our eyes. It only becomes "historical" when we read about it in history books years down the road. Just because we watched these players play on 60-inch flatscreen plasma TVs, instead of in black-and-white, doesn't mean that they're not all-time greats.
I don't have any problem with the concept of teams retiring numbers. But I do wonder if it might become impractical at some point. Unless they start going to three-digit jersey numbers, which would be rather stupid in my opinion, they're going to run out of numbers eventually. Maybe at some point the league will decide to just raise the players' photos to the rafters instead of retiring their numbers?
Don't forget the 2 Olympic gold medals, a WJC and WC gold medal. Triple gold club is a big deal
Bruin4
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Let’s not forget Patrice being the only player to ever win a world championship gold before a world Juniors Gold!
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