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SnowblindNYR said:
7>5? You're splitting hairs. I thought you were splitting hairs when I counted it as 8>4, now you're just REALLY splitting hairs. A 7 game sample size is what you're inclined to believe rather than take the positive of their most RECENT sample size or take a wait and see approach. Sounds like you're just looking for a reason to think the team sucks. I mean 7 games is your proof.
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In his mind the LA Kings title team was bad. They only won 40 regular season games. 42>40. That is a full season. Big sample size. Nevertheless, they won the cup. Bad team got hot. Didn't continue next season, right?

If we were 9-3 people would be crying for cup contender status. Hold off on these we suck/we're awesome posts. Lot of variables in this stretch as any.

Too many people have agendas on this board. Means nothing. 4 and 3 since that 1-4 start. There is improvement. Canes are decent, but missing get Cam Ward. Keep showing signs of better overall play. Defense is better now. Offense showing signs of life. A lot to be positive about.
 
Teams are supposed to try to:

1.) Beat the teams who they are better than

and

2.) Be competitive with the teams on their level or better.

It's a good thing to knock #1 down.
 
Also, since they've returned East, they've only allowed 12 goals in 7 games, and that includes the Devils game where they allowed 4.

Of course, they've also only scored 11 goals in that time. At least the D has tightened up.
 
Funny how this works. When the Rangers are struggling and Hank's contract is almost up, the Isles are "legit contenders," that are at the same phase of building the Rangers are, if not further ahead. When the Rangers beat the Isles, they're a crappy team that NYR should be able to beat.

I've never seen a group of people spend more time hating something that they love.
 
haveandare said:
Funny how this works. When the Rangers are struggling and Hank's contract is almost up, the Isles are "legit contenders," that are at the same phase of building the Rangers are, if not further ahead. When the Rangers beat the Isles, they're a crappy team that NYR should be able to beat.

I've never seen a group of people spend more time hating something that they love.
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I think people form an opinion of the team and it takes a lot for them to admit that they're wrong. So they're holding on to hope that the team will continue to suck to feed their ego. The Rangers haven't proven to be a good team yet, so people's egos will have them find pleasure in bashing the team to confirm their opinions.
 
What people often forget is that this board consists of hundreds of unique voices with unique perspectives on the game and the Rangers organization. It can be "bipolar" because different people feel the need to vent/cheer at different times. It's not like it is written by one author who can't make up his mind.

At the end of the day I KNOW we all want to watch WINS and ideally the Cup taking laps around MSG sometime in the 21st century. We disagree about how to get there at times. We disagree at where in the process the team is. We disagree about whether the org is even on a linear process or a hamster wheel. But ultimately we all want the same thing. And I would sincerely hope, and put money on the fact that Cup >>>>> being "right" every day of the week.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
What people often forget is that this board consists of hundreds of unique voices with unique perspectives on the game and the Rangers organization. It can be "bipolar" because different people feel the need to vent/cheer at different times. It's not like it is written by one author who can't make up his mind.

At the end of the day I KNOW we all want to watch WINS and ideally the Cup taking laps around MSG sometime in the 21st century. We disagree about how to get there at times. We disagree at where in the process the team is. We disagree about whether the org is even on a linear process or a hamster wheel. But ultimately we all want the same thing. And I would sincerely hope, and put money on the fact that Cup >>>>> being "right" every day of the week.
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I don't know, I see so many negative posts no matter what that it seems like people value being right more than winning (considering we've been a pretty good team since the lockout for the most part and people still complain about everything). People seem to get off from complaining. Some people NEVER are happy and NEVER give the team for anything. I bet if they won the cup they'd find something to complain about.
 
Hall of Fame defenseman Mark Howe was the between periods guest on the radio in last night's game, has seen a lot of the Rangers already as Detroit’s Eastern scout. He said
A) that the Rangers’ top six defensemen are probably as good a group as there is in the NHL and
B) that he expects the Rangers to be “right there at the end of the season and into the playoffs.â€
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This guy shouldn't be making these assessments, what does he know. This board knows better. :sarcasm:
 
True Blue said:
Yes, because the experts are always right. Sometimes, you can judge by what your eyes tell you.
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Certainly not but the board isn't always right either. We had posters comparing our early season struggles to the Ron Low era. :sarcasm:

I mean the Ron Low teams were void of talent, had no system, etc the comparison was ridiculous. I'm not saying the Rangers are out of the woods but things aren't always as bad or as good as this board likes to claim. We are all guilty of doing it, it's the nature of being a fan....especially a fan of the Rangers.

If the Rangers got off to a blazing start posters would be saying "plan the parade" and that would be just as stupid as getting down on a team early in a season...under a new coach, with injuries to star players, learning a new system....
 
Son of Steinbrenner said:
Certainly not but the board isn't always right either. We had posters comparing our early season struggles to the Ron Low era. :sarcasm:
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That is the way that it seemed.

And no, the board is not always right. Clearly. But there are enough knowledgeable posters who can call a spade a spade.
 
True Blue said:
That is the way that it seemed.

And no, the board is not always right. Clearly. But there are enough knowledgeable posters who can call a spade a spade.
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Not really....The Rangers were struggling but it was never that bad. If the team played half a season that way then yes you'd have a point. To call the team "a Ron Low" team after a few games was crazy....

Sometimes those "knowledgeable posters" call a spade a spade, when the spade is really another card in the deck.
 
Let's just see how they fair these next two games, if they are as good as they have been playing the last 4 to 5 games then these should be good games. Loss/Win does not matter as much as how competitive they are. No excuses, if they play well then we can say this team has turned the corner and we should have a successful season, if they look bad like they did on the road trip then maybe we can say we are the best of the bad teams.
 
True Blue said:
Yes, because the experts are always right. Sometimes, you can judge by what your eyes tell you.
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This guy is a hall of fame Defender and a scout, I will take his opinion over this board everyday of the week.

True Blue said:
That is the way that it seemed.

And no, the board is not always right. Clearly. But there are enough knowledgeable posters who can call a spade a spade.
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There not many. Most of the posters here are more interested in being proven right, or follow the fashionable group think of the moment than calling a spade a spade.
 
Kwayry said:
This guy is a hall of fame Defender and a scout, I will take his opinion over this board everyday of the week.
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I am not saying not to take it. All that I am saying is that more than enough times, scouts have got it wrong.
There not many. Most of the posters here are more interested in being proven right, or follow the fashionable group think of the moment than calling a spade a spade.
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It depends, I guess. I have been around these boards a very long time. Granted, not as active in the recent years. But over the long years, I have seen lots come and go. And those who are interested in being right and those who have a valid opinion.

There was a time, long ago, when I would have happily engaged in any debate with anyone. No time or patience for that anymore. No need to waste time on utterly useless battles.
 
True Blue said:
I am not saying not to take it. All that I am saying is that more than enough times, scouts have got it wrong.

It depends, I guess. I have been around these boards a very long time. Granted, not as active in the recent years. But over the long years, I have seen lots come and go. And those who are interested in being right and those who have a valid opinion.

There was a time, long ago, when I would have happily engaged in any debate with anyone. No time or patience for that anymore. No need to waste time on utterly useless battles.
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Im being told to be patient in this thread, but more importantly I still havent been told what Im being patient for.
 
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