News Article: Paraphrased, If we do well Quote: "it’d be unreal to stay.”

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I would split Marner into 1 point per game player + 1 above average depth player so that team can finally run exclusively through matthews (especially in playoff where marner is the qb 5v5 and matthews skating around doing nothing) and then re-sign Nylander for under 10 mil.

At those ages coming up and cap space and Matthews being the for sure no.1 player in league by then without doubt, it's the best move for the team.
 
I doubt Nylander is any more or less money motivated than the other young core forwards on the team.
There is a huge difference .. Willy had a steel industry in Stockholm in family so he lived and lives a very entitled life of flying around in family jet since birth .. Matty, and especially Mitch, come from very financially disadvantaged families and they are trying to develop generational wealth themselves .. my point is Willy's life is not changing because he plays pro hockey (all it does is add to his wealth) and $$$ itself very likely is not a big motivator for him
 
There is a huge difference .. Willy had a steel industry in Stockholm in family so he lived and lives a very entitled life of flying around in family jet since birth .. Matty, and especially Mitch, come from very financially disadvantaged families and they are trying to develop generational wealth themselves .. my point is Willy's life is not changing because he plays pro hockey (all it does is add to his wealth) and $$$ itself very likely is not a big motivator for him
I didn't know that about his family - thanks.

He didn't say anything about wanting to leave. That was a twist added by the writer, and further twisted by the OP.
 
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I didn't know that about his family - thanks.

He didn't say anything about wanting to leave. That was a twist added by the writer, and further twisted by the OP.
I hope da best for Willy too .. and it may not be in TO .. who knows he may want to live da LA lifestyle for all i know .. or da NYC lifestyle .. he is our only 5 tool player .. he can wheel in a phone booth, he can beat you in a race, he can shoot with accuracy and power, he can stickhandle and he is super strong on his skates .. my only issue with Willy is his desire to win above all else .. and maybe that is his personality or maybe he never had to hunger for things .. I don't know .. but he has all da choices to make and not many people in world have those choices .. so good for him
 
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I agree with Willie.
Win or gtf out. 55 years....we should all get out.
So Willie, if you fail this year , I will want you out, and Dubas, and Keefe etc
 



Interesting wording he used here..
Interesting wording here 🤔 what are your views? Seems like a normal conversation why wouldn't he want out of the first round....? If he said he'd stay no matter what I'd question if he wants to win, most question if he'll take a hit. So what did you find interesting about it?
 
I agree with Willie.
Win or gtf out. 55 years....we should all get out.
So Willie, if you fail this year , I will want you out, and Dubas, and Keefe etc
Willy didn't say he wanted out if we didn't win. He said it would be great to stay with a winning team.

The writer of the article spun it that way, and the OP exacerbated the error.
 
I'm going on a limb and suggest the only thing that will matter to Nylander in terms of whether he'll re-sign or not is how willing Dubas or the next GM is to meet his salary demands.
 
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So Toronto feel like home.
Loves the city.

Toronto feels like home now, Nylander says ahead of his eighth season with the Leafs.

“I think this is the longest I’ve ever lived in one place,” he said of the city where he’s lived since he was drafted by the Leafs in 2014. “My dad, he moved (us) around. He maybe played two years, three years at one spot. Then we moved and stuff like that. So this is probably the longest I’ve ever been in one place.

“I just love the city, to be honest. It’s a great city. At the same time as it’s a big city, it’s still a little bit more European. It’s not like you’re walking around New York or whatever. It’s obviously smaller. It’s got a lot of everything.”
 
why is this even a conversation right now? even if he wants to, he can't sign right now he is literally not allowed to right now so why worry about it?
 
There is a huge difference .. Willy had a steel industry in Stockholm in family so he lived and lives a very entitled life of flying around in family jet since birth .. Matty, and especially Mitch, come from very financially disadvantaged families and they are trying to develop generational wealth themselves .. my point is Willy's life is not changing because he plays pro hockey (all it does is add to his wealth) and $$$ itself very likely is not a big motivator for him
Bruh no.

Marner and Matthews may not come from old money or anything but they didn't grow up poor at all.

Matthews' dad is a CTO of a tech company and his uncle played in the NFL. These aren't the type of jobs that coupon cutters get.

Marner attended a pretty elite school growing up - tuition costs around $20k a year and he attended there from K-12. His family is well connected to some pretty important people as well - he was living rent free in Toronto in his rookie season because some bigwig real estate guy let him live in one of his spare condos.

The two guys on the team that didn't grow up in the upper 10% are Wayne Simmonds and Mark Giordano. Giordano is from my neck of the woods, around Weston which is not a great neigbourhood in Toronto and Simmonds is from a normal middle class family and has spoken about the struggles his parents had to make to afford hockey equipment.

Most North American born NHL players grow up around wealth.
 
Bruh no.

Marner and Matthews may not come from old money or anything but they didn't grow up poor at all.

Matthews' dad is a CTO of a tech company and his uncle played in the NFL. These aren't the type of jobs that coupon cutters get.

Marner attended a pretty elite school growing up - tuition costs around $20k a year and he attended there from K-12. His family is well connected to some pretty important people as well - he was living rent free in Toronto in his rookie season because some bigwig real estate guy let him live in one of his spare condos.

The two guys on the team that didn't grow up in the upper 10% are Wayne Simmonds and Mark Giordano. Giordano is from my neck of the woods, around Weston which is not a great neigbourhood in Toronto and Simmonds is from a normal middle class family and has spoken about the struggles his parents had to make to afford hockey equipment.

Most North American born NHL players grow up around wealth.
Mitch went to a hockey high school starting in grade 9 without paying any fees .. Bonnie was only one working when they live on oak in Clarington .. Paul got paid by team to be our trainer .. and a couple of us sponsored all his hockey fees .. even his ETR 407 bill was paid by team when they moved to markham .. and his condo fee was only a deferred item until he could afford to pay it back .. get your facts straight bro

Matty's mom was a nanny earning $$$ for family .. dad was a pitcher who everyone thought would make it but his arm failed and he did not cash in .. when i saw them at tournaments when kids were younger they did have a tech company that sponsored his registration and tourney travel costs .. again you need to get your facts right .. both these kids had a tough go
 
Willy didn't say he wanted out if we didn't win. He said it would be great to stay with a winning team.

The writer of the article spun it that way, and the OP exacerbated the error.

When a hockey player says winning team, I automatically relate that to PO success. That's how I interpret things.
 
When a hockey player says winning team, I automatically relate that to PO success. That's how I interpret things.
Sure. But that's not the problem. He didn't say he would only re-sign if we had success (playoff or otherwise), but that's how the reporter and the OP spun it.
 
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My god am I tired of being right about these clowns......

“I mean, I haven’t really thought about it,” Nylander told The Athletic. “But the only thing I can think of is, if we have a great year here and we go deep and hopefully do what we want to do then obviously it’d be unreal to stay.”

You haven't thought about it? GTFO yesterday.

If he said he wants to sign win or lose, people would be complaining about him having a loser mentality and only caring about money.
LOL. Yeah, we hate loyalty. Having wishy-washy mercs is clearly what we want. *facepalm*
 
Nylander's a complicated situation. He's talented and definitely right there just behind Matthews and Marner but for whatever reason I'm not worried about losing him and certainly wouldn't get bent over to keep him.
 
My god am I tired of being right about these clowns......

“I mean, I haven’t really thought about it,” Nylander told The Athletic. “But the only thing I can think of is, if we have a great year here and we go deep and hopefully do what we want to do then obviously it’d be unreal to stay.”

You haven't thought about it? GTFO yesterday.


LOL. Yeah, we hate loyalty. Having wishy-washy mercs is clearly what we want. *facepalm*
As a pro athlete, how could you not be thinking of your future, what you are making and where you are playing?
 
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