SeanMoneyHands
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St Louis won 2 art Ross trophies and was runner up once more. He was a league mvp and extremely instrumental in a cup win.
It's him by a bit
MSL won in 04, was 2nd in 2011 and then won in 13. Yeah, there was luck involved like with anything, but to have 3 separate top two scoring finishes over the course of 9 years isn't just getting lucky once. The league still had lots of talent.I mean Art Ross is also luck of who is in the league at the time and who is injured. Last year was Panarin's best shot at an Art Ross but he had three healthy legends in front of him. I don't think MSL wins an Art Ross last year either if he was in his prime.
I'd say Panarin is better in the regular season, MSL in the postseason.
MSL won in 04, was 2nd in 2011 and then won in 13. Yeah, there was luck involved like with anything, but to have 3 separate top two scoring finishes over the course of 9 years isn't just getting lucky once. The league still had lots of talent.
Fair or not, you are judged by how you faired in your era. I'm not going to chalk up msl trophies to luck more than anyone else, he earned them
Did he win the Hart? go on to win another scoring title?And Jamie Benn won in 2015, must be better than Panarin.
Panarin has almost 300 more points than Saint-Louis at the same age.Can't see any argument for Panarin.
Panarin has almost 300 more points than Saint-Louis at the same age.
I mean Art Ross is also luck of who is in the league at the time and who is injured. Last year was Panarin's best shot at an Art Ross but he had three healthy legends in front of him. I don't think MSL wins an Art Ross last year either if he was in his prime.
I'd say Panarin is better in the regular season, MSL in the postseason.
Yeah and both guys were going to lap MSLIn 2004 all the league stars were healthy with the exception of Forsberg.
In 2013, everyone was healthy except for Crosby.
Healthy Forsberg didn't even exist past 2003 - he played more than 40 games once and it was 60. It wasn't lucky he got hurt it was the norm.Yeah and both guys were going to lap MSL
Forsberg - 57 pts in 39 games or a 120 pt pace per 82 vs MSL who had less than 100
Crosby - 56 pts in 36 games or 75 pt pace in 48 vs 60 in 48 for MSL
MSL got lucky for his 2013 ross especially while 2004 a lot of league guys had bad years and Forsberg missed over 50% of the year vs only 25% in smaller size like Crosby
Yes, but he didn't need to content with a peak McDavid. Very few players will win the Art Ross contending with McDavid, MacKinnon and Kucherov all in their prime.St Louis won 2 art Ross trophies and was runner up once more. He was a league mvp and extremely instrumental in a cup win.
It's him by a bit
Different level but close. So, like which is it. I agree it's close and Marty takes it. Just sayingMSL went undrafted and ended up a first ballot HOF player with a couple Art Rosses. The guy squeezed every last drop out of his (listed) 5 foot 8 / 180 pound frame.
Panarin's amazing too, but MSL... imo different level. Still close but MSL gets my vote