Panarin or Marty St. Louis?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who was better at their peak?

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[Albatros]

Opportunistic timing, but regardless Saint-Louis was never this good.

 

[Regal]

I feel like Panarin last year or in 19-20 is pretty similar or maybe even better than St.Louis’ 03-04 or 10-11 (which I consider better than his Art Ross in 2013). Still, Panarin hasn’t had a playoff run like St.Louis’ ‘04, and I’d give the edge to Marty for that.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

St Louis won 2 art Ross trophies and was runner up once more. He was a league mvp and extremely instrumental in a cup win.

It's him by a bit

 

[SnowblindNYR]

St Louis won 2 art Ross trophies and was runner up once more. He was a league mvp and extremely instrumental in a cup win.

It's him by a bit

I mean Art Ross is also luck of who is in the league at the time and who is injured. Last year was Panarin's best shot at an Art Ross but he had three healthy legends in front of him. I don't think MSL wins an Art Ross last year either if he was in his prime.

I'd say Panarin is better in the regular season, MSL in the postseason.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

I mean Art Ross is also luck of who is in the league at the time and who is injured. Last year was Panarin's best shot at an Art Ross but he had three healthy legends in front of him. I don't think MSL wins an Art Ross last year either if he was in his prime.

I'd say Panarin is better in the regular season, MSL in the postseason.

MSL won in 04, was 2nd in 2011 and then won in 13. Yeah, there was luck involved like with anything, but to have 3 separate top two scoring finishes over the course of 9 years isn't just getting lucky once. The league still had lots of talent.

Fair or not, you are judged by how you faired in your era. I'm not going to chalk up msl trophies to luck more than anyone else, he earned them

 

[SnowblindNYR]

MSL won in 04, was 2nd in 2011 and then won in 13. Yeah, there was luck involved like with anything, but to have 3 separate top two scoring finishes over the course of 9 years isn't just getting lucky once. The league still had lots of talent.

Fair or not, you are judged by how you faired in your era. I'm not going to chalk up msl trophies to luck more than anyone else, he earned them

And Jamie Benn won in 2015, must be better than Panarin.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

And Jamie Benn won in 2015, must be better than Panarin.

Did he win the Hart? go on to win another scoring title?

 

[CanadienShark]

MSL, but it's close.

 

[PainForShane]

MSL went undrafted and ended up a first ballot HOF player with a couple Art Rosses. The guy squeezed every last drop out of his (listed) 5 foot 8 / 180 pound frame.

Panarin's amazing too, but MSL... imo different level. Still close but MSL gets my vote

 

[SillyRabbit]

Can't see any argument for Panarin.

Not only does St. Louis have better regular season accolades, he was also better in the playoffs than Panarin has been (despite being a small guy who you'd think might struggle in the playoffs).

It's close, however. Panarin is a great player himself.

 

[Albatros]

Can't see any argument for Panarin.

Panarin has almost 300 more points than Saint-Louis at the same age.