Rumor: Pagnotta: "Rasmus Andersson is open to a trade, he would welcome it" It would cost 3 assets...1st rnd pick, prospect, +

[ManofSteel55]

Not really.

It's hard to gauge his value really. While I absolutely think that every GM who needs a d-man would look at him, I'm not sure on if they look at him as fondly as Flames fans do. They overrate this guy a lot, in my opinion. He's very good, but a lot of Flames fans think he is a #1 defenseman.

 

[crackdown44]

It's hard to gauge his value really. While I absolutely think that every GM who needs a d-man would look at him, I'm not sure on if they look at him as fondly as Flames fans do. They overrate this guy a lot, in my opinion. He's very good, but a lot of Flames fans think he is a #1 defenseman.

He’s top pair RD on a deal that can be retained to a little over 2mil for 2 playoff runs. That has a ton of value. He’s not a true #1 like Hedman Hughes Makar etc but after the top 20 defensemen in the league the guys ranked 20-50 pretty much can change daily depending on who is playing better

I think a late 1st and 2nd from the oilers and a relatively unknown prospect would get beaten for sure, rivalry tax aside. That’s just my opinion though

 

[Bond]

The main piece coming back should be worth 15ish overall imo. A late 1st is a non-starter for a trade this year.

 

[Kielbasa]

It's hard to gauge his value really. While I absolutely think that every GM who needs a d-man would look at him, I'm not sure on if they look at him as fondly as Flames fans do. They overrate this guy a lot, in my opinion. He's very good, but a lot of Flames fans think he is a #1 defenseman.

He was an early pick for the team Sweden 4 nations roster if that's any indication of how reputation in the league.

Even if he's not a #1 D, how often can you get a great #2 for 2 million aav for 2 playoff runs. Seems like the demand is fair, and I could see him being the subject of a bidding war.

 

[Yepthatsme]

It's hard to gauge his value really. While I absolutely think that every GM who needs a d-man would look at him, I'm not sure on if they look at him as fondly as Flames fans do. They overrate this guy a lot, in my opinion. He's very good, but a lot of Flames fans think he is a #1 defenseman.

In the 3 years prior to this season, he’s been 13th in total time on ice amongst defenseman and 21st in points amongst defenseman. He’s 14th in total ice time this season amongst defenseman, though his point totals are down from his usual standards. He may not be in the top 20 defense league wide, but he’s part of a rare group of minute munchers who can provide high end offense outside the powerplay while playing ~24 minutes a night.

 

[syz]

Said it in like November. He'll be a great deadline pickup for somebody.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why would the Habs who candidly won’t make post season make a trade at a time where prices are inflated for an asset that could very likely not be retained?

Injuries and the flu nothwithstanding they may well make the playoffs this season. With Andersson it would be pretty much a sure thing.

 

[alphafox]

Would the Flames be willing to do something like Proverov and MN 1st for Rasmus? The jackets need a D upgrade generally and Rasmus might be a solid fit to go next to and help Mateychuk in his first year.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Injuries and the flu nothwithstanding they may well make the playoffs this season. With Andersson it would be pretty much a sure thing.

...no...it wouldn't...he's not Makar...

 

[KevinRedkey]

I'm actually in favor of trading for Norris, but no way would he be a centerpiece for Andersson, not with his contract and injury history. Not to say he couldn't be part of it, but there would have to be something else as the centerpiece, including a 1st.

Also, I'm not sure the Sens will be willing to trade a first in teh next 2 years since they still have to forfeit one.

Josh Norris
Tyler Boucher
Jonathan Bernard-Docker
2025 1st rounder (unprotected)

for

Rasmus Andersson
Andrei Kuzmenko (~40% retained to make salary work)

How about something like that?

 

[voyageur]

I wonder if Treveling doesn't make a play on both Andersson and Backlund, with his Flames connection. Conroy hasn't said rebuild, and the Flames are hanging in there, but that would be a turning point, where the Flames build around Parekh and younger forwards.

Leafs want 3rd line help. Leafs would probably like a top 2 defenseman as well. For Andersson the payout in Toronto is likely higher than anywhere else. And these guys are on a short life for having a chance to win. Maybe it's Toronto's year?

A bunch of spare parts, including Robertson, a 2026 1st round pick, and one of the last two 1st round picks of the Leafs, and what else? Half retained to keep the Flames at the Cap?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I wonder if Treveling doesn't make a play on both Andersson and Backlund, with his Flames connection. Conroy hasn't said rebuild, and the Flames are hanging in there, but that would be a turning point, where the Flames build around Parekh and younger forwards.

Leafs want 3rd line help. Leafs would probably like a top 2 defenseman as well. For Andersson the payout in Toronto is likely higher than anywhere else. And these guys are on a short life for having a chance to win. Maybe it's Toronto's year?

A bunch of spare parts, including Robertson, a 2026 1st round pick, and one of the last two 1st round picks of the Leafs, and what else? Half retained to keep the Flames at the Cap?

...a bunch of spare parts and a couple late 1sts for a Top Pairing RD and Calgary's Captain...yeah, sounds enticing; Conroy should be all over it...

 

[voyageur]

...a bunch of spare parts and a couple late 1sts for a Top Pairing RD and Calgary's Captain...yeah, sounds enticing; Conroy should be all over it...

Sorry I don't know what Toronto has depth wise, so I can't name names, other than I am sure Robertson is probably in a trade, but when I think of Calgary trades, the Gilmour/Macoun trade always comes back to me. Berube was part of that trade, for irony.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Sorry I don't know what Toronto has depth wise, so I can't name names, other than I am sure Robertson is probably in a trade, but when I think of Calgary trades, the Gilmour/Macoun trade always comes back to me. Berube was part of that trade, for irony.

...Leafs have meh depth and are lacking in their prospect pool; I believe it was ranked 28th for the 2nd year in a row...and Calgary in no way, shape, or form wants to relive the Gilmour trade...

 

[HabzSauce]

Andersson will go for more than that. A first, good prospect and steady NHLer. Non retain

Contender will only be able to offer late first. I doubt Calgary wants another 30rd pick in draft.

Flames own first back will have double the value to Calgary. Be around 12-15. Montreal be high in the bid. Habs have the pick and prospects Calgary looking for. Montreal has big need and nearing end of rebuild.

Agreed Habs have the assets for sure. But if Habs get Andersson that means Matheson gotta go. Or at the very least Savard. 3 way trade of some sort if CGY doesn't want em

Maybe this is what the prophet Eklund was alluding to with his latest trade rumor

 

[Iggys Dome]

I wonder if Treveling doesn't make a play on both Andersson and Backlund, with his Flames connection. Conroy hasn't said rebuild, and the Flames are hanging in there, but that would be a turning point, where the Flames build around Parekh and younger forwards.

Leafs want 3rd line help. Leafs would probably like a top 2 defenseman as well. For Andersson the payout in Toronto is likely higher than anywhere else. And these guys are on a short life for having a chance to win. Maybe it's Toronto's year?

A bunch of spare parts, including Robertson, a 2026 1st round pick, and one of the last two 1st round picks of the Leafs, and what else? Half retained to keep the Flames at the Cap?

I think our ownership/FO are really pissed at Treliving for how he left things in Calgary and either A) Wouldn't shop to Toronto in the first place or B) It would cost an insane overpayment.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Well, it hits the "1st, prospect and another piece" requirements. I don't think anyone is including a blue chip prospect. But yes, we would have to pay an ungodly rival tax. And that is if he doesn't have us on his NTC list, ha ha.

I mean sure but that just shows you didn't actually listen to what was said in the OP's post. "1st round pick, top prospect, and additional asset. Or equivalent."

 

[Habs Halifax]

The main piece coming back should be worth 15ish overall imo. A late 1st is a non-starter for a trade this year.

Habs pick is probably 10-16 range ish. Habs also have the Flames/Panthers 1st (whatever is better but not a top 10). That is probably 12-18 range.

I feel the Habs would very much be interested in R Andersson but you can't get an extension now. Only thing we could do is ask for permission to talk to Andersson and his agent before we make the trade... we would want to know what type of contract he wants (handshake agreement type thing).

Habs would offer one of our 1sts, Newhook, and a RD prospect... Mailloux. I think this is a very competitive offer. Habs can also ensure the Flames get a 1st back in this draft by offering one of our 1st but with lottery protection. Chances both win a lottery is slim to none. Other teams around our spot can offer a equal 1st but they will put top 10 or lottery protection and if it wins a lottery or is bottom 10, the pick becomes 2026. Or we can just offer the Flames their 1st back.

If the Flames and Habs are serious about this at the TDL but the Flames still want to chase the playoffs... we can send back Savard in this package so they have someone to fill that RD hole with Andersson gone.

 

[Captain97]

...no...it wouldn't...he's not Makar...

The Habs are currently 2 points out of a playoff spot. Adding a top pairing Dman would be a great add for them

 

[Lunatik]

Habs pick is probably 10-16 range ish. Habs also have the Flames/Panthers 1st (whatever is better but not a top 10). That is probably 12-18 range.

I feel the Habs would very much be interested in R Andersson but you can't get an extension now. Only thing we could do is ask for permission to talk to Andersson and his agent before we make the trade... we would want to know what type of contract he wants (handshake agreement type thing).

Habs would offer one of our 1sts, Newhook, and a RD prospect... Mailloux. I think this is a very competitive offer. Habs can also ensure the Flames get a 1st back in this draft by offering one of our 1st but with lottery protection. Chances both win a lottery is slim to none. Other teams around our spot can offer a equal 1st but they will put top 10 or lottery protection and if it wins a lottery or is bottom 10, the pick becomes 2026. Or we can just offer the Flames their 1st back.

I don't think we'll be looking for more defensive prospects at the moment, especially RD.

Currently in the pipeline we have Parekh, Brzustewicz and Mews as RD, last season Parekh and Brz were 1-2 in defenseman scoring in the OHL, this year Mew leads the OHL in defenseman scoring, Parekh is 5th (his PPG pace is right there with Mews) after a bit of a slow start. On LD we have a few defensive and 2-way types in Solovyov, Grushnikov and Kuznetsov, as well as another offensive defenseman on Morin (2nd in defense scoring in the Q)...

Then on the NHL roster we have Kevin Bahl (LD) who is just 24 and has emerged as a legitimate top-4 defenseman this season, and Pachal (RD) who has really looked good as our #5 and is just 25 (I personally think his game can still grow more into a physical stay-at-home middle pair guy).

Hage, the better of the 1st round picks (top 8 protected) and Newhook/Dach would make more sense for the Flames.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I don't think we'll be looking for more defensive prospects at the moment, especially RD.

Currently in the pipeline we have Parekh, Brzustewicz and Mews as RD, last season Parekh and Brz were 1-2 in defenseman scoring in the OHL, this year Mew leads the OHL in defenseman scoring, Parekh is 5th (his PPG pace is right there with Mews) after a bit of a slow start. On LD we have a few defensive and 2-way types in Solovyov, Grushnikov and Kuznetsov, as well as another offensive defenseman on Morin (2nd in defense scoring in the Q)...

Then on the NHL roster we have Kevin Bahl (LD) who is just 24 and has emerged as a legitimate top-4 defenseman this season, and Pachal (RD) who has really looked good as our #5 and is just 25 (I personally think his game can still grow more into a physical stay-at-home middle pair guy).

Hage, the better of the 1st round picks (top 8 protected) and Newhook/Dach would make more sense for the Flames.

You can forget about Hage. You are not getting a mid range 1st and a grade A+ prospect for Andersson from anybody. Our dangle is one of our 1sts and Newhook as the NHL piece. Then we can look at what prospect we can offer. If Andersson tells us he is after 8x $8M, the trade doesn't happen. Ideally, we are thinking 6x $7M (takes him to age 35). If he wants a contract overlapping age 36 and 37 and much higher AAV, I pass. 6x $7.5M would be the max. If Andersson and his agent are looking for the max deal as a UFA, the Habs pass on this.

So... what is that prospect we flip out for Mailloux? We have two true type centers in Beck and Kapanen who are very close to NHL ready. I'd say Kapanen is closer but Beck is not far behind. Who's better between these two? Not sure... I have them very close. Habs would need Kapanen (especially if we let Evans walk) so I'd say that prospect is Beck.

The other thing the Habs can offer (if it's a TDL trade), is Savard in the package as well. Gives the Flames a RD piece to use while they also chase the playoffs. If this is not possible at the TDL, Habs will reevaluate our options at the draft. You never know who becomes available.

What is Gorton/Hughes really thinking? Not sure. I know they prefer to bring in pieces that can help us now and the future so it appears Andersson fits but with assurances he will extend. Another option for us is Pulock.

 

[Lunatik]

A+ prospect.... Jesus Christ

 

[Habs Halifax]

A+ prospect.... Jesus Christ

He's on that track. No pt/game talent on Michigan other than Hage and he's putting up some very good numbers at age 18 in his first NCAA year. He's leading NCAA points for players age 19 and under.

I don't care about the A or A+ narrative and your belittle approach. I'm pretty sure you are ignorant on this. He's not on the list of players we are open to trading. If you say must have, you can talk to others for Andersson trades. My Habs offer is as solid as it gets and I very much doubt other teams can beat it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

It's hard to gauge his value really. While I absolutely think that every GM who needs a d-man would look at him, I'm not sure on if they look at him as fondly as Flames fans do. They overrate this guy a lot, in my opinion. He's very good, but a lot of Flames fans think he is a #1 defenseman.

Not a #1D but a solid top 4D and is a rare RD. Plays big minutes and skates very well. Doesn't hit much but plays the position well while putting up 30-40 pts. This is a classic minute eater that coaches love. Just goes out and does his job and the Coach doesn't have to worry about a mismatch game.

In truth, my offer above might be way too much. But it's the main boards and you got to offer a lot to have any real conversations that spark interest.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I thought this was about risto I was gonna say who the f*** is dumb enough to give that up

Flyers previous GM.

Fletcher I think

He's pretty cheap already, but if Calgary retains 50%...