Friedman: Owen Tippett Available

[voyageur]

Well the Jets have Heinola who hasn't been able to crack the lineup. I would be more than thrilled to trade Tippett straight up to him. Though not so sure Jets would agree.

I think Heinola would absolutely fit the Panthers up tempo style that torched us earlier this week. He's also a former teammate of Lundell's so I think that's a natural fit. I'm not sure we can afford to one off him for Tippett. Heinola projects as a top 4 d-man. Tippett is getting 4th line minutes, and might not pan out as a top 6 forward, which I think would be the needed equivalent for a potential top 4 d. There would have to be more pieces, but it does fill a need for both teams. At probably the right cost.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Makes zero sense for Florida, Why would Florida want Forsberg when they're already rolling with Bobrovsky and Knight?

He'd be their 3rd goalie and is purely a throw-in.

 

[TBF1972]

I'd move bahl. I'm not really sure I like him more than okhotiuk at this point.

Neither Bahl nor Okhotyuk are NHL Top4 help. If the Devils are interested in Tippett they have to offer one of their three NHL regulars. Smith doesn't fit the description of the Panthers need. So that leaves Siegenthaler und Graves as options. Graves probably has more trade value.

 

[Easternbull]

Marek also said Lundell+ Knight+ 1st for Chychrun from Florida so not that high on him.

Even though not the biggest take here that he’d be available

I call absolute BS on that!!

No way Florida is trading Lundell!! He is astud and will be a first line two way pivot, who will back up the best their is(Barkov) at that position for a long time IMHO.

 

[Skeletorrr]

I call absolute BS on that!!

No way Florida is trading Lundell!! He is astud and will be a first line two way pivot, who will back up the best their is(Barkov) at that position for a long time IMHO.

I really don't think Zito would do that trade, it's simply too much assets to give away for Chychrun. Drafting and keeping guys like Lundell and Knight is how you build a SC contender. Having guys in key roles on entry level/cheap contracts is how you win the cup.

 

[Blitz]

To

LW/RW Victor Olofsson (@50% = $1.03M - RFA '22)
LD Robert Hagg ($1.9M - UFA '22)

To

RW Owen Tippett ($863K RFA '22)
RD Markus Nutivaara ($2.7M - UFA '22 currently on LTIR)

2 teams have dealt w each other recently, both in different spots development-wise.

FLA acquires a 26yo top-6 left shot winger who has also shown an ability to score in bunches & also be a PP specialist, as well as a physical, defensive #2/3 LD to bolster the back end for a deep run.

BUF acquires a very good, young (22yo) right-shot RW who has shown his scoring prowess at lower levels but still needs more development time, as well as a solid #2/3 right-shot RD, who while currently on the LTIR will fill a dire need on a team w a lack of true RD on his return.

Cap is a wash after retention.

 

[Dr Quincy]

To

LW/RW Victor Olofsson (@50% = $1.03M - RFA '22)
LD Robert Hagg ($1.9M - UFA '22)

To

RW Owen Tippett ($863K RFA '22)
RD Markus Nutivaara ($2.7M - UFA '22 currently on LTIR)

2 teams have dealt w each other recently, both in different spots development-wise.

FLA acquires a 26yo top-6 left shot winger who has also shown an ability to score in bunches & also be a PP specialist, as well as a physical, defensive #2/3 LD to bolster the back end for a deep run.

BUF acquires a very good, young (22yo) right-shot RW who has shown his scoring prowess at lower levels but still needs more development time, as well as a solid #2/3 right-shot RD, who while currently on the LTIR will fill a dire need on a team w a lack of true RD on his return.

Cap is a wash after retention.

This doesn't help FLA in the playoffs at all

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

To

LW/RW Victor Olofsson (@50% = $1.03M - RFA '22)
LD Robert Hagg ($1.9M - UFA '22)

To

RW Owen Tippett ($863K RFA '22)
RD Markus Nutivaara ($2.7M - UFA '22 currently on LTIR)

2 teams have dealt w each other recently, both in different spots development-wise.

FLA acquires a 26yo top-6 left shot winger who has also shown an ability to score in bunches & also be a PP specialist, as well as a physical, defensive #2/3 LD to bolster the back end for a deep run.

BUF acquires a very good, young (22yo) right-shot RW who has shown his scoring prowess at lower levels but still needs more development time, as well as a solid #2/3 right-shot RD, who while currently on the LTIR will fill a dire need on a team w a lack of true RD on his return.

Cap is a wash after retention.

No deal. This does nothing for the Panthers. Olofsson is pretty much another Vatrano for us and he doesn't even get to play on a regular basis. The Panthers have an ample amount of (fringe) bottom pairing dmen so Hagg for Nutivaara is at best an even exchange, most likely a downgrade. Instead you could give our 1st round pick back and we can pretend like it was Reinhart for Levi and Tippett.

 

[BB88]

I call absolute BS on that!!

No way Florida is trading Lundell!! He is astud and will be a first line two way pivot, who will back up the best their is(Barkov) at that position for a long time IMHO.

My point was I dont’ listen to anything he says about Florida

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Might be a good trade for a superstar and get the other team to retain 50%.

Unless they use him to get Chychrun.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Owen Power for Jacob Bernard-Docker

FILE THE PAPERWORK

Tippet?

 

[Maraz]

Ott 2nd 2022 + TB 2nd 2022 + Anton Forsberg
for
Owen Tippett + FLA 4th 2022/Aleksi Heponiemi

Only really makes sense if Florida uses those 2nds as trade ammunition. Obviously 4th and Heponiemi are not equivalent value... I listed both so as to provide a range.

If Ottawa is interested they would probably need to offer Brannstrom.

 

[Henkka]

This sounds like the start for a Chychrun trade. You add 1st and another for 1st round drafted guy.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

If Ottawa is interested they would probably need to offer Brannstrom.

Yeah, I thought that might be the case. I would think long and hard about it. I really love what Brannstrom brings but I'm also very confident in our young D depth with or without him.

I could see a deal around those two happening... not 100% sure how I'll feel about it. I watch a good amount of Panthers hockey and Tippett has had nights where he makes plays and other nights where I don't notice him at all. I'm not saying that's an issue in terms of his long-term projection, as I do think he has a very good chance of being a 2nd RW or better, but I feel like if we're moving a key piece/non-futures, it should be for someone who we know can step in and contribute.

Also, while I do think we will be able to reach terms with him, if it's determined that Paul will be asking more than we're willing to give, I could see him being a secondary piece in a Tippett trade. He's a very good PKer, and I know you guys use your top guys on the PK quite a bit. Also good in the dot (a rare area where you guys struggle), very good defensively, and very good along the boards/down low. I think he'd look really good with Lundell and could share the load on face-offs.

 

[ToDavid]

To me “centre of trade talks” doesn’t really mean available, it means that’s who everyone is asking for. Whether or not Florida is willing to deal is another question.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

time for them to go all in. their time is now

 

[Laus723]

Panthers need a physical, Defensive minded defenseman. Zito seems to be looking under every stone and isn’t looking to overpay or lose anything too big. Imo.
Chychrun and Chiarot are clearly targets, I could see Braun or Dillion being targets as well, but I haven’t followed them this year.

 

[Laus723]

100% - I definitely fear it’s gonna be Chychrun for Knight, Tippett and the ‘23 1st. I’d puke if that happened. I’m a big Samoskevich fan, though. So if it were Knight, Samoskevich and the ‘23 1st, I’d survive.

I personally don’t believe in giving up major assets for goalies at any stage in their careers, and that goes for draft picks, trade chips, and capspace. I’m personally only interested in “easy come, easy go” goalies. Usually you can get a nice goalie bargain for cheap every off-season.

That said, I don’t expect everyone to feel the same way I do about that. Some people might be comfortable burning major assets on goalies. Some may be okay with burning major assets on goalie prospects. Could be the AZ brass is among that group. If so, Knight and Swayman are the two best goalie prospects out there, for my money. So if the Yotes moved Chychrun in a deal where Knight was the centerpiece, I’d be pissed off. But I’d understand it, and wouldn’t necessarily say they got ripped off.

If the next best asset is Owen Tippett and/or a future 1st, then that’s intolerable. Chychrun is just too good and too valuable to accept that. If it’s Samoskevich, that’s closer to something I could stomach. I like Samoskevich a lot. He’s my favorite Cats prospect. But he’s winger. Just a nifty winger with flashy moves. I’m a hockey fan, so I dig that. I’ve seen him play a lot and he’s fun to watch. But I’m not sure nifty wingers are the most valuable blue-chips out there. Next to goalies, they’re the easiest thing to acquire fairly cheaply.

Again, it wouldn’t be my preference to deal Chychrun for a nifty winger prospect. But if they’re gonna do it, Samoskevich is a good one to choose. Just like Knight among goalies. Like I said, I wouldn’t trade Chychrun for Knight, Samoskevich, and a ‘23 1st. But if it were to happen, I would be willing to admit it’s adequate value, and I can understand how someone would make that trade (even if I wouldn’t). Further, I’d at least be excited about the pieces.

If it’s Knight and Tippett, though? I’m going to throw a tantrum. I’m gonna whine and cry like a petulant toddler all over these boards. The only silver lining will be that everyone will get to show up to dunk on me. That will be the only fun part. Will be an epic chain of quotes to own my bad takes. Haha.

“In his previous report on the Panthers, Marek offered that the Coyotes would want Florida’s Anton Lundell or Spencer Knight — perhaps both — in any deal for Chychrun.
That’s simply not happening.
Lundell is Florida’s future No. 2 center and Knight is the team’s goalie-in-waiting.
It would take a lot for the Panthers to get rid of a player like Knight; Lundell is in untouchable territory.”

NHL Trade Rumors, Florida Panthers: Owen Tippett on the block?

Perhaps Chychrun is the “a lot” Richards is talking about here, but I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I don’t expect Chychrun, Zito is all about finding value players without giving up a ton. Could be a big splash, but expecting Chiarot, etc.

 

[Big Muddy]

what is florida looking for?

Yep, that's the same question I had.

 

[rt]

“In his previous report on the Panthers, Marek offered that the Coyotes would want Florida’s Anton Lundell or Spencer Knight — perhaps both — in any deal for Chychrun.
That’s simply not happening.
Lundell is Florida’s future No. 2 center and Knight is the team’s goalie-in-waiting.
It would take a lot for the Panthers to get rid of a player like Knight; Lundell is in untouchable territory.”

NHL Trade Rumors, Florida Panthers: Owen Tippett on the block?

Perhaps Chychrun is the “a lot” Richards is talking about here, but I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I don’t expect Chychrun, Zito is all about finding value players without giving up a ton. Could be a big splash, but expecting Chiarot, etc.

I didn’t mention Lundell.

 

[Big Muddy]

Ideally a top 4 LD, but we don't think The Cats(realistically) have what it will take to get that, or at least nothing they are willing to part with(see Lundell, Anton)

More realistically, a 4-5 LD with a physical presence that isn't a just a pylon, a Soucy, or Larsson(Arizona), or maybe a Dillon type.

Ottawa will probably kick the tires since we're down two rw but doubt they pony up to the asking price.

Well ya, so that means maybe Zaitsev from Ottawa if we are talking about who might be 'available' from the Senators roster. And, won't be very surprised if Florida would be looking at better options if that was the bait Senators were offering.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Panthers need a physical, Defensive minded defenseman. Zito seems to be looking under every stone and isn’t looking to overpay or lose anything too big. Imo.
Chychrun and Chiarot are clearly targets, I could see Braun or Dillion being targets as well, but I haven’t followed them this year.

Owen Tippett for Haydn Fleury?

Both probably would be better off with other teams and could fill a need for their new clubs.

 

[Laus723]

Yep, that's the same question I had.

it’s been answered a few times in here, They need a physical, defensive minded defenseman that can keep up.

 

[Laus723]

I didn’t mention Lundell.

No, but you mentioned Knight. My whole point was, Zito is apparently reluctant to give him up, therefore Chychrun likely isn’t “coming home.” Maybe, but the return would likely make you puke…for some reason.

Owen Tippett for Haydn Fleury?

Both probably would be better off with other teams and could fill a need for their new clubs.

not too familiar with him. What’s his game?

 

[Big Muddy]

it’s been answered a few times in here, They need a physical, defensive minded defenseman that can keep up.

Ya, not surprising, but admittedly I didn't read through the whole thread. I appreciate your response.