Player Discussion Owen Power, LD (1st overall, 2021) Gentle Giant

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Is he one of the answers? Because nothing of his development or even draft pedigree screams "team leader". And that's ONE of the answers for what ails this organization. I would love to see him completely break his shell and become something different than what he is, but I don't have any faith he will do so.

According to Pegula he is. And I agree with you.
 

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It's fascinating to see how a handful of unicorns have just completely warped people's conception of how long defensemen take to develop. Adams put him in a position to fail by not finding an actual veteran defenseman to pair with him, when he gets run out of town for pocket link it will blow up in our faces worse than Bikini Atoll.
It’s almost as amazing as how many people allow the physical side of the game influence their belief a player is ready for the NHL game more than the mental side of the game, when the mental side of the game takes the longest to develop and strengthen.
 
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Is he one of the answers? Because nothing of his development or even draft pedigree screams "team leader". And that's ONE of the answers for what ails this organization. I would love to see him completely break his shell and become something different than what he is, but I don't have any faith he will do so.
He needs a mentor in the worst way. Nobody on the current roster is it (Dahlin included), and I suspect last year Kevyn thought Erik Johnson foolishly would be it.
 

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He needs a mentor in the worst way. Nobody on the current roster is it (Dahlin included), and I suspect last year Kevyn thought Erik Johnson foolishly would be it.
Shoot, we are still needing a mentor for Dahlin, not only for a 1st pairing role, but also for the captaincy and leadership now. (Would've loved to have Josi here for that role)

Never been a big fan of Power, but he's on the team, so they need to deal with providing the sources and structure among one another to help develop him. Just based on everything I've seen, we're going to have to hope the next management team sees the obvious holes.
 
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Shoot, we are still needing a mentor for Dahlin, not only for a 1st pairing role, but also for the captaincy and leadership now. (Would've loved to have Josi here for that role)

Never been a big fan of Power, but he's on the team, so they need to deal with providing the sources and structure among one another to help develop him. Just based on everything I've seen, we're going to have to hope the next management team sees the obvious holes.
Luke Hughes got Pesce as his mentor almost immediately.

Dahlin and Power - nothing

This just shows how idiots our GMs are.
 

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Don't let players get easy looks in the paint doesn't exactly strike me as a lesson requiring mentor translation.

This ..all this talk about getting a partner for Power so he can have a mentor. That mentor isn't going to make Power want to engage anymore. That mentor is going to be there to cover for Power and his deficiencies
 

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He needs a mentor in the worst way. Nobody on the current roster is it (Dahlin included), and I suspect last year Kevyn thought Erik Johnson foolishly would be it.
I been beating this drum for weeks. I don't get it. Adams is a garbage GM.

Thats why our players go on to have success elsewhere. There is no one mentoring the young kids. I hate Adams and I don't use that term loosely.
 
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Don't let players get easy looks in the paint doesn't exactly strike me as a lesson requiring mentor translation.

Yep. Seems like this is the guy he is going to be, the smallest 6'6" player defending around his own net we're likely ever going to see. There is no fight in the guy. He's an excellent passer and starting transitions, but man... the basic concept of how to use positioning and leverage just to push someone away from his own net has never even flashed. It's not there and no amount of having someone around on the team who can do that is going to miraculously impart that to Power's game.

Trade him.
 

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Just pay Caps for this guy and pair him with Power, it's not that hard.

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This ..all this talk about getting a partner for Power so he can have a mentor. That mentor isn't going to make Power want to engage anymore. That mentor is going to be there to cover for Power and his deficiencies

No, veteran partners and players on your team can help you develop, learn, and play differently. I haven’t heard a take, like this, to the contrary
 

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No, veteran partners and players on your team can help you develop, learn, and play differently. I haven’t heard a take, like this, to the contrary
The thing is, while I definitely think toughness can be improved more than some others, hes been around for 2 years on a team that isn't all that soft. Its not like he just doesnt have role models on the team.

Team captains in tuch, tage, cozens, dahlin all have some physicality despite not being their primary contribution.

Byram doesn't avoid contact, Bryson doesn't avoid contact, obviously samuelsson doesn't (except last night), hell Ryan Johnson was laying net front wood.

Coaches have spoken publicly about working on it with him. So the issue here doesn't seem to be lack of direction
 
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The thing is, while I definitely think toughness can be improved more than some others, hes been around for 2 years on a team that isn't all that soft. Its not like he just doesnt have role models on the team.

Team captains in tuch, tage, cozens, dahlin all have some physicality despite not being their primary contribution.

Byram doesn't avoid contact, Bryson doesn't avoid contact, obviously samuelsson doesn't (except last night), hell Ryan Johnson was laying net front wood.

Coaches have spoken publicly about working on it with him. So the issue here doesn't seem to be lack of direction
It’s not about role models. It’s about getting players that play the right way and demand it of you. Just because there’s other flawed kids on the team that play physical, doesn’t mean Power is going to catch it like a disease or want to play that way. Get him a proper veteran and leader that plays the game the right way and demands the same of Power
 

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Yep. Seems like this is the guy he is going to be, the smallest 6'6" player defending around his own net we're likely ever going to see. There is no fight in the guy. He's an excellent passer and starting transitions, but man... the basic concept of how to use positioning and leverage just to push someone away from his own net has never even flashed. It's not there and no amount of having someone around on the team who can do that is going to miraculously impart that to Power's game.

Trade him.
Yeah. I'm there as well. I haven't watched many games this year, but I trust everyone's opinion of him here. I really liked what I saw from Byram. He'd be an interesting piece to pair with a rugged defenseman who plays responsible in his own zone.

Question is- would you also give up Cozens in a trade for Pettersson? It's only a rumor, so take it with a grain of salt, but ridding both of those contracts is enticing to me, though I do think Cozens has promise.
 

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I'm sure Washington can't wait to trade out of their top 4 while they're.. checks notes.. leading the conference.
This should have been done in the summer, by the way, they traded Jensen to Ottawa, who would have been a good fit for our second pair. Of course, they won't trade TVR now, but Adams doesn't do a damn thing in the summer or winter, no matter what time of year.
 

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The thing is, while I definitely think toughness can be improved more than some others, hes been around for 2 years on a team that isn't all that soft. Its not like he just doesnt have role models on the team.

Team captains in tuch, tage, cozens, dahlin all have some physicality despite not being their primary contribution.

Byram doesn't avoid contact, Bryson doesn't avoid contact, obviously samuelsson doesn't (except last night), hell Ryan Johnson was laying net front wood.

Coaches have spoken publicly about working on it with him. So the issue here doesn't seem to be lack of direction

Could you imagine if that had been Jokiharju instead of Power? Pages of Sun firing into.
 

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I’m not worried about his defensive physicality. Lidstrom was the best defender I’ve ever seen and he never hit anyone. Power just needs to be more engaged defensively. He watches hockey too much from the D zone.

Don't agree - there is no engagement to get near people or cover anyone. This is so not about hitting someone. It's simple will to win a 1-on-1 battle near the neet. Power does not have it. It's been years - this is the same way he was in Chicago. There has been no change, no maturation. He's 200 games into his NHL career and he's still waving his stick at pucks around his own net instead of just pushing his man out of the area. Being easily mesmerized by the puck is one thing, but holy crap is he ineffectively timid with just pinning someone out.
 

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