Proposal: Ovechkin to FLA

[CHGoalie27]

Definitely, FLO needs to go in an other states

Florida is def. not a market for no wins AND no franchise players like Montreal (or even Buffalo) is, that's for sure.

We get drunk and go to the beach. You guys go to hockey games or come to Florida to go to the beach, drunk either way.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Wayne Gretzky and Patrick Roy were traded. Nobody is untradeable unless their contract is awful and so are they. Even then the Panthers would still do it LOL

One was traded because of a sketchy owner, the other was traded because he demanded one.

 

[fashi13]

Value for OV is a bit much from Florida’s side but neither team does this. OV is a bonifide superstar, captain, and franchise player of the capitals. No reason for Washington to do this. OV is everything to their franchise. Huberdeau has been phenomenal this year and the other two have been excellent as well. Makes no sense.

Exactly, Leonsis would trade his son before Ovi.

 

[trick9]

Capitals rather keep the greatest goal-scorer of all-time, but thanks.

 

[CHGoalie27]

One was traded because of a sketchy owner, the other was traded because he demanded one.

For whatever reason, they happened.

@trick9 From a Caps and fans standpoint, like I said after Klabob's answer, I can understand just saying no because it's OV. No argument necessary, really.

Any thing past that, I gave reason as to how it does make sense. For both. Realistically. Short and long term.

 

[Ahoy there]

How did you get posting privileges for the main page? This is turrible

 

[CHGoalie27]

Should've made your name to be Asswipe Ahoy

 

[Hivemind]

The only NHL team that Ovechkin will play for is the Capitals. Perhaps he plays for Dynamo Moscow against before his retirement from hockey, but the Caps aren't ever going to trade him.

 

[koyvoo]

Wayne Gretzky and Patrick Roy were traded. Nobody is untradeable unless their contract is awful and so are they. Even then the Panthers would still do it LOL

Gretzky and Roy were traded after unforeseen and unique situations arose. Going by those parameters, sure, anyone could be traded. But that aside, it’s safe to say at this point Ovechkin is a Capital for life.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Gretzky and Roy were traded after unforeseen and unique situations arose. Going by those parameters, sure, anyone could be traded. But that aside, it’s safe to say at this point Ovechkin is a Capital for life.

Now do you really think the reason they were traded was my point in bringing them up, or was it to say even the best are traded for whatever reason?

 

[Perfect_Drug]

OV is more than his contributions to winning games.



He has now cemented as a legend in a city notorious for losing.


I'm not even a caps fan, and I would be really sad if OV were ever traded. It would be worse than watching Alfie or Modano in a wings uni.

 

[koyvoo]

Now do you really think the reason they were traded was my point in bringing them up, or was it to say even the best are traded for whatever reason?

No but what I’m saying is that if it’s only under highly unlikely and unforeseen circumstances that a player would be traded, it’s not very relevant to discuss a possible trade unless those scenarios do arise.

 

[CHGoalie27]

No but what I’m saying is that if it’s only under highly unlikely and unforeseen circumstances that a player would be traded, it’s not very relevant to discuss a possible trade unless those scenarios do arise.

Not everyday a team has to consider trading 3 A players in hopes of making some kind of difference in keeping fans in their building, located in FL not QC. For the whole league's interest, shared revenue, and the fact that all teams get an eventual break from the cold. Most eastern cold teams twice a year at that.

This is a very unique situation.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Main reason I wouldnt do it is because you have no replacment for such strong players. Hubrdeau is a elite star, he will score 70p+ each season, Dadonov can achieve 30-40g and hoffman is playing top line elite ( pace to 82p) it's too much for OVY due to his age. You will lose more due to the numbers of pieces attached to the deal imo.

Fair value for a younger Ovy imo, but not logical for Florida. honestly FLO needs to change to an other city, doesn't make sense to have such a strong top 6 and still be bottom

Huberdeau: Score 70+ points each season (yet he's never reached 70 points one time)

Dadonov: Can acheive 30-40, has career high of 28 done once.

Hoffman: Scored 61 once.

You can't bundle 3 guys like this and get one Ovechkin. That's not how the NHL works.

Two of the guys are only a couple years younger than Ovi so expecting continued development in their play is sketchy at best. Huberdeau is in his 7th year, so you know what he is.

I take Ovi and the difference in cap between him and those three guys over those three guys. Ovi and a player making ~5.5M > those three.

 

[FinlandPanther]

If that were the case you'd tell me why they wouldn't want 7 top-6 players instead of 5.

I just don’t think they trade OV it’s that simple.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Ovechkin is not beeing traded on this contract (2 years left after this season). If he keeps playing after that he will have a NMC for the rest of his career on his next contracts. He is retiring in DC.

 

[FinlandPanther]

You don't trade someone on pace for 68 goals and his 8th Rocket Richard trophy

Ovechkin is a gamebreaker. Those other guys are not. 3 quarters doesn't get you a dollar.

To be fair those are more than quarters.

 

[CHGoalie27]

OV is more than his contributions to winning games.



He has now cemented as a legend in a city notorious for losing.


I'm not even a caps fan, and I would be really sad if OV were ever traded. It would be worse than watching Alfie or Modano in a wings uni.

While they would keep Washington winning, and fans in the stands, Florida desperately needs what Jagr's age ended prematurely for the development of our prospect logjam.

 

[CHGoalie27]

I just don’t think they trade OV it’s that simple.

So just hit like on Klabob's post!

 

[FinlandPanther]

So just hit like on Klabob's post!

OV is a real hard player to get a value on. Superstar, just won a cup, captain, means everything to washington. I honestly would have no idea what he’d cost if they didn’t want him.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Now do you really think the reason they were traded was my point in bringing them up, or was it to say even the best are traded for whatever reason?

But the whole reason why either was traded makes those two examples irrelevant. If Ovi demands to be traded, you revisit. If the league somehow alters the CBA to allow you to sell players again and get money back in trades, you revisit. Gretzky wasn't traded, he was sold and players changed hands with the cash.

Absent those two completely unique and therefore not applicable scenarios, players like Ovechkin do not get traded. And please tell me how it makes sense for the Caps (who have a lot of work to do to keep their cap straight as it is) get better by dealing the best player in the trade, picking up ~5.5M in cap (4M with Connolly included)? If I'm the Caps, I keep Ovi and then I go and sign my Dadonov equivalent (player who can pot 20-30 goals with a good year) for around 4M.

Ovi + hypothetical 4M player who can do what Dadonov does > Hoffman, Huberdeau, and Dadonov.

 

[powerstuck]

Not only Caps say no because it's Ovie...but what interest does Ovie have here ?

He just spent more than half of his NHL career trying to accomplish something with Washington and in the end only getting one cup (so far).

If you give all that from Florida for Ovie, well it's like Ovie just joined the NHL and has to carry the Florida Panthers like he did carry the Washington Capitals for years before finally scoring the big win.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

To be fair those are more than quarters.

fine, 3 half dollars don't get you a dollar... when you take into account that at the bottom end of your roster, you have a minimum you HAVE to spend on players.

Gotta buy 23 things for 8 bucks and at the bottom end, you have to spend 10 cents on each. Getting 3 .50 pieces instead of 1 1.00 piece actually limits your flexibility.

 

[slimbob8]

I see no reasons why Washington wouldn't be looking to trade Ovechkin. What's he ever done for them?

 

[FinlandPanther]

fine, 3 half dollars don't get you a dollar... when you take into account that at the bottom end of your roster, you have a minimum you HAVE to spend on players.

Gotta buy 23 things for 8 bucks and at the bottom end, you have to spend 10 cents on each. Getting 3 .50 pieces instead of 1 1.00 piece actually limits your flexibility.

I can get behind this