Ovechkin Milestone Thread - Countdown to 894 (Continued)

[filinski77]

It’s yet another symptom of Gretzky having played in an insanely high-scoring era, and having the bulk of his goals occur during that era’s peak. Scoring 90 goals in a season where his team was typically putting a 6-spot means each individual goal was less likely to be the first goal scored in a given game than for players scoring goals in other eras., particularly Ovechkin, who played his peak years at a time when scoring was very low.

You see it in reflected in a lot of Gretzky’s stats, like how he’s not near the top in GWG either.

A lot has to do with him having a normal decline into his late 20's and 30's from a goalscoring perspective, whereas Ovi simply just didn't.

Gretzky scored in 638 games, Ovechkin has scored in 674.

Gretzky also had way more 2/3/4 goal games than Ovechkin. Gretzky had 50 hat tricks, Ovi 32. Gretzky had 13 4+ goal games (with a few 5 goal games), whereas Ovi has had 4x 4 goal games (and no 5-goal games).

Someone else posted it a couple weeks ago, but statistically Gretzky has scored a lot more goals in absolute blowout games than Ovi has, whereas Ovi is essentially the most clutch goal scorer in history (game winning goals, 1st goal of the game, game tying goals, goals to put you up by 1).

 

[ViD]

Way above point per game at 39

 

[Randyne]

5 assists away from #2 All-time by assists among LW or #10 among all wingers

 

[BallardEra]

Way above point per game at 39

Would have had a legit shot at most points for an age 39 season were it not for the 16 games missed.

 

[kugelbahn]

I hate to put Ovi in a bad light in this thread, but i feel i must defend the Great One a little bit, Ovi GWP per game 0.16 Wayne 0.226
as far as i could tell(made a poor look) only McDavid has higher then Wayne

GWP per game more heavily depends on your linemates though. If you have once-in-career-30-goals-scorer Backstrom vs 11-times-in-career-30-goals-scorer Kurry or 7-times-in-career-30-goals-scorer Draisaitl as a linemate, it matters. Gretz and McD elevate their linemates no question, but Backy is on completely different level vs Kurry and Drai.

Gretz>>>OV>Drai as a player, no question about it.

 

[ozzie]

Such a strange time when 2 assists is a disappointment for a player isn’t it?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Why?

 

[BallardEra]

7 minutes?

NHL dropped the ball. Should have been 8 minutes.

 

[SomeDude]

I'd like to be the nerd standing there with a stop watch and a cane ready to yank everyone off the ice if it reaches 7 minutes and 1 second.

 

[andora]

Wtf

 

[Hippasus]

Why?

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He's seven goals away from the moment the decision was made, and the sexagesimal system goals back to Sumerian times.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

Hopefully he does it in style like when he hit 50 in TB while simultaneously demolishing Braydon Coburn

 

[Plural]

Personally i dont care about nationality, its not important for me with a NHL team having all types
of players from differerent contries, , maybe it has to do with age, when i was younger i was more into the swedes.

Everyone excperiments when young. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you. Just finding your boundaries. Plenty of people have gone Swede in their youth, tried it and got it out of their system. Then return to normal life and become a good member of the society. The important thing is you quit before it gets out of hand and understand as an adult that those times are now over.

 

[koyvoo]

Personally i dont care about nationality, its not important for me with a NHL team having all types
of players from differerent contries, , maybe it has to do with age, when i was younger i was more into the swedes.

Ah, c’mon.

This is HFboards, where emotional bonds to nationalities or NHL teams causes people to compromise their logical thinking on the regular.

Why you gotta try to be different?

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Passed Esposito on alltime ESP list with 1008 points

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Ovechkin now with 721 assists, thats number 56th all time, not a bad number.
The equivalant for goals is 483 at 56th place.

 

[Gerulaitis]

I’m far less excited about this as a hockey fan than I should be. Anyone else feel the same?

I will be transparent. I wonder if I would be more into it if it was a Canadian doing it. I’m not sure.

Personally, I don't mind who's doing it as long as he's a Canadian or a Russian.

I think it's because I witnessed the rivalry of the two nations growing up in the 80s.

So go Ovie!

 

[Random schmoe]

I’m far less excited about this as a hockey fan than I should be. Anyone else feel the same?

I will be transparent. I wonder if I would be more into it if it was a Canadian doing it. I’m not sure.

Honestly, respect to you for saying this. From a Caps fan. It takes guts to acknowledge.

 

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[PlayersLtd]

The on ice in game ceremony is going to be a flop.

Give me the ten minute standing ovation, all players on the ice stick tapping or shaking Ovie's hand and a victory lap or two by the man himself over a rushed emotion sapping interview by Bettman or whoever. Anything getting in the way of a long, genuine standing ovation is a disservice to the moment. Lebron's in game ceremony was terrible and this is going to be worse.

Just do it at the end of the game so everyone can celebrate it again and stick around in a party atmosphere. End it with a 10 minute Ovie highlight reel of all his best moments projected onto the ice itself and have the crowd build up an Ovie chant and he can come back out for an encore.

 

[kugelbahn]

I think it is save to assume that centers have advantage in collecting Points (poor mans catch-all stat). Just look at top 12 in alltime points

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Only 3 non-C: 2 RW and 1 LW (Ovi), and there are twice as many wingers in league than centers.

Are Centers inherently better players than Wingers - I do not think so.
It is just an indication that Points is a poor stat to compare players across positions, period.
I know it is traditional, "olden" stat, "Art Ross" sounds cool, every secondary assist "leads" to a goal, all this usual crap. And PPG is even crappier stat.

OV is best goal scorer of all-time, second/third best winger all time, best left wing all time, this is all you need to know
/rant

 

[Midnight Judges]

The on ice in game ceremony is going to be a flop.

Give me the ten minute standing ovation, all players on the ice stick tapping or shaking Ovie's hand and a victory lap or two by the man himself over a rushed emotion sapping interview by Bettman or whoever. Anything getting in the way of a long, genuine standing ovation is a disservice to the moment. Lebron's in game ceremony was terrible and this is going to be worse.

Just do it at the end of the game so everyone can celebrate it again and stick around in a party atmosphere. End it with a 10 minute Ovie highlight reel of all his best moments projected onto the ice itself and have the crowd build up an Ovie chant and he can come back out for an encore.

When Ovie passed Howe, the Jets got in line after the game to shake his hand. It was classy on their part and felt spontaneous. It was perfect.