Ovechkin Milestone Thread - Countdown to 894 (Continued)

[Hippasus]

Yet some on here will claim he isn't one of the top four players of all time.

Most wouldn't. I don't see the argument over Lemieux or Orr despite their lack of or staggered longevity.

 

[Neil Racki]

I was wrong

I had him poetically falling 8 shy of the record

Firmly in the top 10 best players ever imo

O Captain! My Captain!!!

Love that guy

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Man, he might actually do it this year. Amazing. An unassailable all-timer a la Barry Bonds.

 

[Neil Racki]

Man, he might actually do it this year. Amazing. An unassailable all-timer a la Barry Bonds.

 

[Video Nasty]

Most wouldn't. I don't see the argument over Lemieux or Orr despite their lack of or staggered longevity.

If Howe isn’t in the top four, who currently is?

 

[Hippasus]

If Howe isn’t in the top four, who currently is?

Howe is indisputable for me. Probably number two because of his career value. Between Lemieux and Orr, it's hard to say. Maybe Orr due to the influence he had on the game.

 

[Video Nasty]

Howe is indisputable for me. Probably number two because of his career value. Between Lemieux and Orr, it's hard to say. Maybe Orr due to the influence he had on the game.

Oh, I misread your post. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[kugelbahn]

So OV scored his 148th first goal of the game, all time leader ahead of Jagr with 135.

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What is mind boggling is how low Gretz is on that list, he is #35 with only 85, one behind Rick Nash.
At first I thought it is some stats issue, eg not counting some early seasons, but it looks accurate. I wonder why so low, did he usually take his sweet time to score in a game or what? Were Oilers so dominant/rounded that 1G was scored "by committee"?
Why???

 

[ViD]

I was wrong

I had him poetically falling 8 shy of the record

Firmly in the top 10 best players ever imo

O Captain! My Captain!!!

Love that guy

I have him at 5/6 and I don’t care what others say

 

[Hippasus]

John Walton, from radio, was saying their friend, some Washington Nationals player, was as at the game and in the bathroom at the time of the 888 goal. lol

 

[ozzie]

13 games remaining, 6 to tie, 7 to break. Does he do it this year? It's going to be close and the pressure is going to build. I really hope he does it this year so he can just relax next year or retire, whichever he decides. Current pace would indicate he should make it, without any hiccups.

I also wonder if any team will pull the goalie a little more liberally just to give him the chance at history and make sure their team is remembered. Empty netter to tie or take the lead is a double edged sword. When Gretzky set the 50 goals in 39 games record, empty net. Clip is very famous, empty net and Flyer's cooperalls. Mind you he scored 9 goals across 2 games

 

[Elias GOATtersson]

13 games remaining, 6 to tie, 7 to break. Does he do it this year? It's going to be close and the pressure is going to build. I really hope he does it this year so he can just relax next year or retire, whichever he decides. Current pace would indicate he should make it, without any hiccups.

I also wonder if any team will pull the goalie a little more liberally just to give him the chance at history and make sure their team is remembered. Empty netter to tie or take the lead is a double edged sword. When Gretzky set the 50 goals in 39 games record, empty net. Clip is very famous, empty net and Flyer's cooperalls. Mind you he scored 9 goals across 2 games

Lol. As a Canucks fan my entire life, without seeing that post earlier, I wouldn't have guessed the Canucks were the team that Gretzky scored his record breaking goal on.

 

[TJHKY]

 

[The Shadow]

I’m far less excited about this as a hockey fan than I should be. Anyone else feel the same?

I will be transparent. I wonder if I would be more into it if it was a Canadian doing it. I’m not sure.

 

[winnipegger]

I’m far less excited about this as a hockey fan than I should be. Anyone else feel the same?

I will be transparent. I wonder if I would be more into it if it was a Canadian doing it. I’m not sure.

I guess this might come off mean but if you aren't excited about this I'm not sure you can call yourself a hockey fan. Breaking a gretz record is like seeing haleys comet.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

889 coming today

 

[Greatzsky 99]

I’m far less excited about this as a hockey fan than I should be. Anyone else feel the same?

I will be transparent. I wonder if I would be more into it if it was a Canadian doing it. I’m not sure.

Personally i dont care about nationality, its not important for me with a NHL team having all types
of players from differerent contries, , maybe it has to do with age, when i was younger i was more into the swedes.

 

[pezpunk]

So OV scored his 148th first goal of the game, all time leader ahead of Jagr with 135.

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

What is mind boggling is how low Gretz is on that list, he is #35 with only 85, one behind Rick Nash.
At first I thought it is some stats issue, eg not counting some early seasons, but it looks accurate. I wonder why so low, did he usually take his sweet time to score in a game or what? Were Oilers so dominant/rounded that 1G was scored "by committee"?
Why???

It’s yet another symptom of Gretzky having played in an insanely high-scoring era, and having the bulk of his goals occur during that era’s peak. Scoring 90 goals in a season where his team was typically putting a 6-spot means each individual goal was less likely to be the first goal scored in a given game than for players scoring goals in other eras., particularly Ovechkin, who played his peak years at a time when scoring was very low.

You see it in reflected in a lot of Gretzky’s stats, like how he’s not near the top in GWG either.

 

[The Shadow]

I guess this might come off mean but if you aren't excited about this I'm not sure you can call yourself a hockey fan. Breaking a gretz record is like seeing haleys comet.

I was being honest and I knew that I leave myself open for comments about not being a real fan. That’s ok.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

I was being honest and I knew that I leave myself open for comments about not being a real fan. That’s ok.

you feel what you feel, nothing wrong with that, i like Bettman

 

[Greatzsky 99]

It’s yet another symptom of Gretzky having played in an insanely high-scoring era, and having the bulk of his goals occur during that era’s peak. Scoring 90 goals in a season where his team was typically putting a 6-spot means each individual goal was less likely to be the first goal scored in a given game than for players scoring goals in other eras., particularly Ovechkin, who played his peak years at a time when scoring was very low.

You see it in reflected in a lot of Gretzky’s stats, like how he’s not near the top in GWG either.

I hate to put Ovi in a bad light in this thread, but i feel i must defend the Great One a little bit, Ovi GWP per game 0.16 Wayne 0.226
as far as i could tell(made a poor look) only McDavid has higher then Wayne

 

[ViD]

somehow I’m very confident he finishes the season with 894 to keep people waiting for a few months

 

[BallardEra]

somehow I’m very confident he finishes the season with 894 to keep people waiting for a few months

Hank Aaron hit 40 homers in his age 39 season to finish with 713 career homers at the end of the 1973 MLB season.

Babe Ruth had the record of 714 homers at that time which Aaron broke the following season in 1974.

 

[BallardEra]

Two assists so far today.

 

[Hippasus]

Two assists so far today.

Primary assists, no less.