Yeah 99 was a playmaker until the end, but the goals fell off quick.
I've barely posted lately, it's video game like at this point. Lol. I mean every game.
Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!
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I've barely posted lately, it's video game like at this point. Lol. I mean every game.
andrjusha
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good that milestone is out of the way, it will help OV to collect extra goals without pressure
but Caps need to decide whom they want to play in first round, blue pill or red pill
but Caps need to decide whom they want to play in first round, blue pill or red pill
Great players be great players, and Ovechkin is a great player.
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COHawk
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Interesting that Ovi, Gretzky, and Lemieux have never finished 2nd.
Hockey Outsider
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Here's my last set of stats for tonight, but I think this might the most interesting:
Scoring environment of all players with 3+ fifty goal seasons
The first two columns show the twenty players with 3+ fifty goal seasons, and the number of times they reached that benchmark. The third column shows how many goals they averaged in the years where they reached 50.
The fourth column, and the one that I want to emphasize, is how many goals the top ten goal-scorers had in those seasons. For example, in 1989, the top ten goal-scorers scored a total of 568 goals. So the average top ten goal-scorer scored about 57 goals. This calculation is done for all 20 players, for each year they're in the top ten. (So Steve Yzerman's average is calculated as 56.8 goals from 1989, 52.6 from 1988, 52.7 from 1990, 51.6 from 1991, and 62.3 from 1993 - an overall average of 55.2).
What does this mean? The last column shows us what the NHL's top ten goal-scorers were doing when these players reached fifty. Rick Vaive is at the bottom of the list, meaning that when he was scoring 51, 52, and 54 goals, the average top ten goal-scorer was scoring more than 56 goals. Gretzky and Lemieux are both near the bottom (meaning that they played in a high-scoring era - but they both look much better than their peers, which isn't true for Vaive, Goulet, or Robitaille).
Ovechkin had the second toughest scoring environment of any player listed (aside from Bobby Hull). During the 9 times Ovechkin scored 50, his goal-scoring peers in the top ten only averaged about 43 goals per season. Compared to Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Hull, and Bossy, by this method, Ovechkin played in a scoring environment that was 25-30% lower scoring (depending on which specific player you're comparing him to). Even players who spent some/all of their prime in the Dead Puck Era (Bure, Jagr, LeClair, Selanne) played in scoring environments where it was easier for players to score lots of goals.
Despite playing in such a low-scoring era (and losing two fifty goal seasons to COVID and a lockout), Ovechkin is still tied for the most 50 goal seasons in NHL history. Incredible.
Scoring environment of all players with 3+ fifty goal seasons
| Player | Seasons | Their goals: | The competition: |
| Bobby Hull | 5 | 52.8 | 36.5 |
| Alex Ovechkin | 9 | 53.1 | 42.6 |
| Phil Esposito | 5 | 65.2 | 45.7 |
| John LeClair | 3 | 50.7 | 47.4 |
| Guy Lafleur | 6 | 54.5 | 48.1 |
| Pavel Bure | 5 | 57.6 | 48.4 |
| Jaromir Jagr | 3 | 56.0 | 48.6 |
| Teemu Selanne | 3 | 59.7 | 50.3 |
| Cam Neely | 3 | 52.0 | 52.1 |
| Marcel Dionne | 6 | 54.8 | 52.3 |
| Mike Bossy | 9 | 59.4 | 53.1 |
| Brett Hull | 5 | 67.8 | 53.5 |
| Jari Kurri | 4 | 61.3 | 53.7 |
| Tim Kerr | 4 | 56.0 | 53.7 |
| Mario Lemieux | 6 | 66.2 | 54.0 |
| Wayne Gretzky | 9 | 66.3 | 54.6 |
| Michel Goulet | 4 | 55.3 | 54.9 |
| Steve Yzerman | 5 | 57.2 | 55.2 |
| Luc Robitaille | 3 | 56.0 | 55.9 |
| Rick Vaive | 3 | 52.3 | 56.3 |
The first two columns show the twenty players with 3+ fifty goal seasons, and the number of times they reached that benchmark. The third column shows how many goals they averaged in the years where they reached 50.
The fourth column, and the one that I want to emphasize, is how many goals the top ten goal-scorers had in those seasons. For example, in 1989, the top ten goal-scorers scored a total of 568 goals. So the average top ten goal-scorer scored about 57 goals. This calculation is done for all 20 players, for each year they're in the top ten. (So Steve Yzerman's average is calculated as 56.8 goals from 1989, 52.6 from 1988, 52.7 from 1990, 51.6 from 1991, and 62.3 from 1993 - an overall average of 55.2).
What does this mean? The last column shows us what the NHL's top ten goal-scorers were doing when these players reached fifty. Rick Vaive is at the bottom of the list, meaning that when he was scoring 51, 52, and 54 goals, the average top ten goal-scorer was scoring more than 56 goals. Gretzky and Lemieux are both near the bottom (meaning that they played in a high-scoring era - but they both look much better than their peers, which isn't true for Vaive, Goulet, or Robitaille).
Ovechkin had the second toughest scoring environment of any player listed (aside from Bobby Hull). During the 9 times Ovechkin scored 50, his goal-scoring peers in the top ten only averaged about 43 goals per season. Compared to Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Hull, and Bossy, by this method, Ovechkin played in a scoring environment that was 25-30% lower scoring (depending on which specific player you're comparing him to). Even players who spent some/all of their prime in the Dead Puck Era (Bure, Jagr, LeClair, Selanne) played in scoring environments where it was easier for players to score lots of goals.
Despite playing in such a low-scoring era (and losing two fifty goal seasons to COVID and a lockout), Ovechkin is still tied for the most 50 goal seasons in NHL history. Incredible.
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zappa4ever
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Congrats to the Legend!
Simply sensational
Simply sensational
Ovechkin returns to put up 40 assists after going 10 straight seasons without hitting 40 assists. That has never been done in NHL history before!
Ovechkin returns to put up 90 points after going 11 straight seasons without hitting 90 points. That has also never been done in NHL history before!
Hitting 90 points at 36 years old is huge! Crosby has only hit 90 points once after turning 27. Once! And now Ovechkin does it at 36. Crazy!
Ovechkin returns to put up 90 points after going 11 straight seasons without hitting 90 points. That has also never been done in NHL history before!
Hitting 90 points at 36 years old is huge! Crosby has only hit 90 points once after turning 27. Once! And now Ovechkin does it at 36. Crazy!
Definitely appreciated that last batch of stats @Hockey Outsider , really cool.
Cool to have witnessed some history tonight.
Cool to have witnessed some history tonight.
Puckstop40
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Was at the game tonight. Ovi is just an absolute monster. Could’ve easily had a hat trick tonight. Congrats on yet another 50 goal season!
I recall someone in this thread was hoping for goal #777 vs. Vegas.
It was #779 and #780 tonight, but wrapping up the 9th 50-goal season makes the game vs. Vegas even more historical.
It was #779 and #780 tonight, but wrapping up the 9th 50-goal season makes the game vs. Vegas even more historical.
canuckking1
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1 more 50 goal season champ. Take sole possession of that record
HFpapi
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Remember back in 2012 when Ovi was supposed to be finished as an elite player in this league? Ahh, the good old days.
400+ career goals (and five 50 goal seasons) since he was declared finished which, for most, is itself an amazing career.
Happy to see he and Sid still flourishing. We'll miss 'em when they're gone.
400+ career goals (and five 50 goal seasons) since he was declared finished which, for most, is itself an amazing career.
Happy to see he and Sid still flourishing. We'll miss 'em when they're gone.
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The fact that he's putting up 50 at age 36 when goal scorers tend to peak in their early 20's is just insane.
Here's hoping he can hit that 10th 50 goal season and secure the record for himself alone.
Here's hoping he can hit that 10th 50 goal season and secure the record for himself alone.
ovikovy817
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Incredible accomplishment. Congrats to him on one hell of a season.
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Great Dane! Love that Eller feller.
That was Ovie's 158th multi goal game that ties him for second all time with Brett Hull. Gretzky is first with 189.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Great Dane! Love that Eller feller.
That would be incredibly tough, even with the increased scoring we are seeing. Still, you can never count Ovechkin out. I honestly won't be surprised.
CokenoPepsi
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Those were such odd seasons for Ovi I don't get it
