Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

Zuluss

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It’s extra funny because it was a random “throw it on net” play in a game he was terrible in.

Being a volume shooter is a good thing, even if some people are always trying to hold Ovechkin's shot totals against him
Today's assist by Ovechkin is a prime example of why having Ovechkin take a shot is so often useful
 
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Being a volume shooter is a good thing, even if some people are always trying to hold Ovechkin's shot totals against him
Today's assist by Ovechkin is a prime example of why having Ovechkin take a shot is so often useful
I don’t know who holds Ovechkin’s shot totals against him. They’re an indication of his style of play.

Today’s assist deserves about a 0.05 on your “points have differential value” scale.
 

Zuluss

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Today’s assist deserves about a 0.05 on your “points have differential value” scale.

Why? Because Ovechkin got a lucky bounce on a shot? Many players get lucky bounces on a shot, do we discount their goals because of that? What about assists on a lucky goal?
I think this assist is as good as any assists Ovechkin got when someone pushed in one of his rebounds or redirected one of his shots - and those assists are as good as any primaries. One way or the other, but he delivered the puck into the area where many goals are scored from.
 
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Yep. Haters hate his top 3 hardware conquered in the toughest worldwide pool ever, pretending that means nothing.
In 16 seasons out of 114 major trophies Ovechkin won 16% of them. If NHL treated him like Crosby he could've won 19% of them (22 trophies= 3 Ross, 4 Harts, 10 Rockets, 3 TL, Smythe, Calder. Top 2 all-time hardware behind only Gretzky).
And behind Bobby Orr winning the Norris, Hart, Art Ross and Conn Smythe all at once in the 1969-70 season. And that other thing -- the Stanley Cup -- too. By far the best single-season performance by any player ever.

Three consecutive Harts.

First two-time winner of the Conn Smythe.

Only defenceman to ever win the Art Ross, and he did it twice.

Eight consecutive Norris trophies. A record, of course.

Plus-minus leader almost every season he played, and still holds the single-season record at +124.

He could skate faster backwards than most players could skate forward.

In terms of hardware or anything else, I put Orr ahead of Gretzky and everyone else, including Ovechkin.

And he did all of that on a knee he seriously damaged while playing junior hockey for the Oshawa Generals
 
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Andrei79

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Funny how lots of these 80s “guys” played until they were almost 40 so some of them were in the league with Ovechkin, and many of them faced the same goaltenders that Ovechkin did.

For example, Mario Lemieux scored a hat trick and a bunch of 2 goal games against Martin Brodeur, but Ovechkin never scored a hat trick on Martin Brodeur — despite the fact that Ovechkin got to play against him when he was old and senile on a shoddy Devils team & Lemieux did it in the heart of the dead puck era when the Devils were the Trappiest team in history.

There are many examples like this to draw from. You “era effect” goofballs are acting like the 90’s is the 1890’s. The same guys played and slayed across these vastly different “eras”. Mario Lemieux had 35 goals in 43 games in 2002-03.

A 33 year old Jaromir Jagr scored 54 goals to a 20 year old Ovechkin 52 in 2005-06.

Jagr outscored Ovechkin when he was out of his prime and old. If you go back just a few years before that, he was putting up more points in a season than Ovechkin could ever Dream of, & he was ALWAYS 2nd fiddle to Lemieux.

Was that a completely different era? Or was it literally the exact same season.

Ridiculous Argument that is not backed up by any data or reality.

A washed up 36 year old Teemu Selanne scored 48 goals to 21 year old Alex Ovechkin‘s 46.

When Teemu was that age, he was playing in his rookie season and putting up 76 goals on goalies like Martin Brodeur and Patrick Roy. Scoring on them a lot more than Ovechkin ever did. Hell, when Teemu was FORTY (40) he had .42 goals per game (31 goals) to Ovechkin’s .40 goals per game.

We don’t need to break out the quantum algebra. These guys played in the same era and were better scorers against the same goalies.

DUMB. ARGUMENT.


No, Selanne was not putting any goals against Martin Brodeur in '93, unless you know something we don't and Teemu played in the AHL that year

And you know what Roy's GAA was that year ? 3.20.

Were talking a goalie on a playoff team with defensive specialists, including one of the best ever. The Vezina winner that year had a 2.59GAA and .906% save, which would be ridiculous by today's standards.

You also fail to mention Ovechkins 20 year old season was his rookie season. Why is that I wonder ? If you were alive back then you would very much know Jagr was not playing like someone past his prime. Anyways, what a ridiculous post.
 

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While it may not have worked that time, how many times has it worked so far for him standing there looking bored, then one pass and you have the other team look like dumbasses because they forgot to cover a guy who has 766 goals and probably scored around 30% of them ''from his office''.
This seems to be the super power of elite snipers. To make people forget they are there. It was the same with Brett Hull before Ovie and it's like that now for Matthews. It's baffling that a 50 goal scorer can be forgotten about.
 

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