Ovechkin & Crosby - race to 1,400 points

[PM88RU]

Who else clicked on the 9-2 boxscore of the Caps/Flyers game only to be disappointed to see Ovi only scored 1?

4 more to 50, come on Ovi!

I did. Yet 1 is still better than 0

 

[max21]

I talk about this all the time, Ovechkin is not a physical player. He makes human contact maybe 3 or 4 times a game either throwing a hit or getting bumped off the puck. When he's not doing that, he has his lawn chair down watching his teamates battle for the puck.

Compare him to a guy like Hornqvist who's physical 4 times a shift, battling in the corners, in front of the net, taking a hit to make a play etc.

Ovechkin isn’t physical? What?

 

[Noldo]

That’s the thing. Yes, Crosby is more valuable for the team success as he is a 1c.
Is that what you wanted to hear? I’m not trying to deny that.

But the hockey is being played by the whole team, which includes wingers, defensemen and a goalie. And every position has its own responsibility.
To win you need everyone to step in and give as much input as he can.

Why don’t you accuse defenceman or a goalie of not playing 200ft game ? Maybe because they’re not supposed to, by default?

I see Ovi as an unique tool for a GM. If you master how to use his talent, you won’t ever regret. And seeing how he drives Caps and how much energy he brings to the team and have been doing so for amazing 17 year span , I do not think Caps GM suffers from the fact he hasn’t happened to choose Crosby instead.

To finish, GM has surely different tasks in his
job. And the fame of franchise means the fan base increase, jerseys, season ticket holders and other benefits for the team. In that area what has been done for the franchise, Ovi as a record holder will surely surpass Crosby, I think, no offense.

For a GM, Crosby probably brings more value over his career, but for an owner Ovechkin may take the lead. Now, granted Penguins have probably increased in value more over their respective careers, but some of that is attributable to Penguins’ piss poor value at the beginning of Crosby’s NHL career.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I also found it surprising that nobody has compared these two players over the past 16 years. That seems like the type of thing someone on HFBoards would have written about at some point since 2005. I'm glad to blaze a new trail wherever I can!

Living up to your username with this revolutionary, outside-the-box kind of thinking about the sport

 

[pi314]

Oops, someone doesn't know what they're talking about, tsk tsk! Should have done some basic research or maybe watched Ovechkin play once or twice in your life.

Ovechkin is 4th all-time in career hits.

Floater.

Lol.

He's also blocked 434 shots, which is about double the number of goals Hornqvist has scored.

EDIT: oh man i looked up how many blocked shots defensive paragon Hornqvist has .... he has 475. Practically the same number as OV.

Keep just making stuff up, haters.

I've seen him lots. He's in the bottom 1% of players defensively.



Greatest in game shot of all time.

Also, the biggest floater.

 

[pi314]

I talk about this all the time, Ovechkin is not a physical player. He makes human contact maybe 3 or 4 times a game either throwing a hit or getting bumped off the puck. When he's not doing that, he has his lawn chair down watching his teamates battle for the puck.

Compare him to a guy like Hornqvist who's physical 4 times a shift, battling in the corners, in front of the net, taking a hit to make a play etc.

You're right.

He mostly just floats in space trying to get open for that shot.

It's just that the 2 things he does, scoring and hitting, show up huge on the highlight reel.

In reality, he spends about 19 minutes doing what you described... having his lawn chair down watching his team mates battle for the pack.

 

[WcRoenick97]

If we want to talk points, Crosby wasn’t even the lead playoff point scorer on his team in two of those cup runs lololol Malkin is greater than Crosby.

 

[TeeTee]

I talk about this all the time, Ovechkin is not a physical player. He makes human contact maybe 3 or 4 times a game either throwing a hit or getting bumped off the puck. When he's not doing that, he has his lawn chair down watching his teamates battle for the puck.

Compare him to a guy like Hornqvist who's physical 4 times a shift, battling in the corners, in front of the net, taking a hit to make a play etc.

Agreed. All it really takes is for someone to watch him play instead of watching the stats. Other than the lethal shot, there is nothing very exciting about his game.

 

[pezpunk]

Unbelievable how ignorant some people here are.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Of course the usual clowns had to come in and turn this into another dumb "debate". Y'all have way too much time on your hands.

Op with great work as always. 2 of the best players in history, both top 5-15 all time. Appreciate them while they're still playing.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

Now a race to 1500 pts. It's so fitting they're only 3 pts apart. They've been joined by hip as supposed rivals since they got drafted. The 2 faces of the league for a good decade.

Right now they sit at 21st and 22nd all time in points. 1500 would put them in the top 16.
It's conceivable they make it to 1600, pending a few more healthy seasons, which would put them into the top 11. At least one of these 2 legends will finish top 10 in pts by career's end (Phil Esposito at 1590 pts).

Ovechkin is already on the way to catching Gordie Howe's #2 spot for all time goal leaders. 26 goals away. We're probably going to witness it next season

Would be so epic if he surpasses Gretzky. A record thought to be completely unattainable in the modern NHL. 119 goals needed, and he turns 37 in September. If he can have 3 more seasons with an average of 40 goals per, he'll do it. He's still banking 50+ goals a season; so pending a healthy few more years, my money is on him achieving the milestone that would be put him into God status