Out of town thread: Where the grass is ALWAYS greener!

[the]

It was easy to trust him in restrospect. Skeletor's shadow made any newcomer shine by comparison.

Heck, I was watching a episode of L’Antichambre when he was named GM in Montreal in 2012 and he was welcomed as a hero. Watching this in 2017 and all of a sudden I was still believing his plan and was convinced we signed the right person for the job.

I had to take a step back and remind myself that he was nothing more than a charlatan.

 

[Runner77]

Heck, I was watching a episode of L’Antichambre when he was named GM in Montreal in 2012 and he was welcomed as a hero. Watching this in 2017 and all of a sudden I was still believing his plan and was convinced we signed the right person for the job.

I had to take a step back and remind myself that he was nothing more than a charlatan.

As an added lure for suckers looking for a savior, there were The Pointe Saint-Charles Nostalgia Waterworks that played with people's emotions.

The First came in the form of Bergevin, then Assistant GM for the Hawks, featured in a report (I believe it was RDS) where he had been asked if he missed Quebec. And he ensued with the story of how he took the Stanley Cup he had won as part of Hawks's management and how he brought it to Pointe Saint Charles and how he used it in a manner very personal to him and his family. And then cried on camera.

The Second, came on live TV, on RDS as he was a blue couch filler, the night that he fraternized with Therrien. And, Therrien probably having seen the above report, pulled the same low hanging strings and got Bergevin to cry again.

 

[417]

If you didn't follow it up with a pretty silly notion that he wouldn't improve our team, then you wouldn't be getting as much backlash.

Oh so that's the difference?

Which is odd because that's not quite what I said.

I've explained it about 100 times since the summer. Do I think he'd make a difference?

Yes, he's a good player, adding a good player makes this team better.

But do I think that difference would be significant?

Not really, no.

The problem is not the message, its the messenger I guess

It is what it is

 

[Kriss E]

Oh so that's the difference?

Which is odd because that's not quite what I said.

I've explained it about 100 times since the summer. Do I think he'd make a difference?

Yes, he's a good player, adding a good player makes this team better.

But do I think that difference would be significant?

Not really, no.

The problem is not the message, its the messenger I guess

It is what it is

No man. Here is what you wrote:

the Stars won't be any better for having added him.

So yes, it's the message. If your message isn't being understood well, maybe rethink your delivery because you flat out wrote the Stars are not going to be better with his addition.
Any team improves with Radu or any other top 3-6 player added. Overall, sure, they might finish lower or at the same place in standings, which I assume is what you meant. But that is completely irrelevant to whether or not a player should be added.
Radulov would help our offense, there is no question about it. Any player of his level would. Does that mean we would have more wins now? Maybe, maybe not, but the team would have, at the very least, more depth, which is a good thing.

 

[417]

Well what's your end game there? The guy's performance or the team's? So he could have 60 points, if Dallas doesn,t make the playoffs, it means Radulov is a bad player? Or just a complementary player? Based on what? The fact that he plays with Benn and Seguin? Well....Radulov was a complement to who with us? 54 points in 76 games....7 points in 6 games in the playoffs complementing who? Pacioretty? Somebody you just called as a complementary player? Not sure what yo mean there. And people blowing their load, as you say, on Radulov was clearly in response to Jaffy and friends who was here shouting hard how Radulov was bad at the start of the year.

I don't think he's going to finish out that contract, I think he's a mercenary and he'll eventually find another suitor for his services and leave the Stars on the lurch because that's how he's always been.

By the way, Price is not a complementary player. And yet, we don't see a 3rd round in the playoffs. But he's not a complementary player so that means that we have a heck of a weak team if him alone he's able to make us a playoffs team and lose in the 1st or 2nd....

Hard to compare skaters and goaltenders...

I guess we don't have the same meaning of the word complementary. I've seen Pacioretty create a power chance for himself yesterday and I had to Wonder if it was really him. Other than that he picks the garbage that others have worked to create. While Radulov creates his own chances and the chances of others. Radulov is just so far from a complementary player....

No, we don't have the same definition of complimentary player, and that's OK. I'm not trying to be derogatory when I call him a complimentary player, I know NotProvoke-whatever his name likes to hashtag that I was trying to crap on him, but I'm not.

There are players you build around, foundational players...

There are players who compliment them...

I think Radulov belongs to the second group, there's nothing inherently wrong with that, there are excellent players who I consider complimentary ones.

But I think the Habs have alot of those players, I don't think they have enough of the type of players you build around.

 

[417]

No man. Here is what you wrote:

So yes, it's the message. If your message isn't being understood well, maybe rethink your delivery because you flat out wrote the Stars are not going to be better with his addition.
Any team improves with Radu or any other top 3-6 player added. Overall, sure, they might finish lower or at the same place in standings, which I assume is what you meant. But that is completely irrelevant to whether or not a player should be added.
Radulov would help our offense, there is no question about it. Any player of his level would. Does that mean we would have more wins now? Maybe, maybe not, but the team would have, at the very least, more depth, which is a good thing.

We'll I guess since you've decided that...there's nothing else for me to add then.

You've spoken...I mean, you've even decided what my OWN words mean.

So sounds like you got this covered.

 

[OldCraig71]

It seems like to me that most US NHL arenas are about half full for most of the games I have watched.

 

[Runner77]

It seems like to me that most US NHL arenas are about half full for most of the games I have watched.

In the regular season especially, a lot of US residents prefer to go bowling. Says it all right there.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Rough stuff and incoming suspensions between Calgary and Detroit.

 

[Runner77]

Rough stuff and incoming suspensions between Calgary and Detroit.

What happened?

I just tuned in, Detroit is leading 6-2, with 5:56 to go and the Wings on a 5 minute PP.

Must have been Calgary trying to send one of those "messages" toward next game.

Holy crap -- just noticed a ton of empty seats.

 

[jaffy27]

What happened?

I just tuned in, Detroit is leading 6-2, with 5:56 to go and the Wings on a 5 minute PP.

Must have been Calgary trying to send one of those "messages" toward next game.

Holy crap -- just noticed a ton of empty seats.

Shades of Nilan/Linseman

 

[mariolemieux66]

What happened?

I just tuned in, Detroit is leading 6-2, with 5:56 to go and the Wings on a 5 minute PP.

Must have been Calgary trying to send one of those "messages" toward next game.

Holy crap -- just noticed a ton of empty seats.

Witkowski dropped Kulak. On his way to the dressing room from the penalty box, Witkowski received a love tap behind the leg by Tkachuk. Witkowski turned around, went back on the ice and all hell broke loose. It was old time hockey.

PP goal by Detroit.

 

[Runner77]

Shades of Nilan/Linesman

Gonna make the rounds on the late show replays it looks like. I can probably find the fireworks on twitter.

And Detroit scores another, 7-2. Backlund called for unsportsmanlike conduct during that PP.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Shades of Nilan/Linesman

Perfect way to describe what happens.

Witkowski and Tkachuk getting a couple of game each.

 

[jaffy27]

Rough stuff and incoming suspensions between Calgary and Detroit.

Witkowski surely...maybe Tkachuk?

 

[Runner77]

Witkowski dropped Kulak. On his way to the dressing room from the penalty box, Witkowski received a love tap behind the leg by Tkachuk. Witkowski turned around, went back on the ice and all hell broke loose. It was old time hockey.

PP goal by Detroit.

Thanks. Were there empty seats from early in the game? Pretty eerie to see that right now.

 

[Runner77]

Oh wow, 8-2 now. It's really personal.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Witkowski surely...maybe Tkachuk?

Tkachuk got a 5 minutes spearing so there will be a fallow up. I think Tkachuk get suspended. The league doesn't want that kind of shenanigans .

 

[groovejuice]

What happened?

I just tuned in, Detroit is leading 6-2, with 5:56 to go and the Wings on a 5 minute PP.

Must have been Calgary trying to send one of those "messages" toward next game.

Holy crap -- just noticed a ton of empty seats.

Couple of fights that escalated into a scrum with a few cheap shots. Tkachuk was tossed for a spear that couldn't be seen in replays. He's chippy as hell so I'm not surprised.

 

[jaffy27]

Gonna make the rounds on the late show replays it looks like. I can probably find the fireworks on twitter.

And Detroit scores another, 7-2. Backlund called for unsportsmanlike conduct during that PP.

This one will make the headlines for a bit...8-2

 

[mariolemieux66]

Thanks. Were there empty seats from early in the game? Pretty eerie to see that right now.

I just started watching in the 3rd.

 

[jaffy27]

Tkachuk got a 5 minutes spearing so there will be a fallow up. I think Tkachuk get suspended. The league doesn't want that kind of shenanigans .

I didn't see the spear....dunno

 

[mariolemieux66]

More shit going on in Calgary.

 

[Runner77]

More penalties called with 4.3 seconds left, lol.

 

[mariolemieux66]

I didn't see the spear....dunno

It was a love tap. But the refs giving a 5 minutes makes it easier to suspend him i guess. Not too sure about the rules.