HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2025 Playoff edition

[Victoire HuGo]

What is Seattle doing ? They fired Hakstol last summer...

Must be owner getting involved. Apparently Francis didn't want Bylsma last year

 

[red devil]

What is Seattle doing ? They fired Hakstol last summer...

 

[sheed36]

Botterill even as his own song from back when he was the Sabres GM.

Although it might not actually work out in his favor if the Kraken owners listen to the song first.

 

[red devil]

 

[sheed36]

I wonder how much more rope the Wings will give Yzerman to turn it around and make the Wings a playoff team again.

 

[Leto]

I wonder how much more rope the Wings will give Yzerman to turn it around and make the Wings a playoff team again.

If the Wings fans are to be believed, he still has decent amount of rope... You should go read their board and the Downfall thread on the main boards, I can't figure if it's copium induced delirium or Stevie Y is truly a mastermind.​

 

[Miller Time]

Lol....

Contrast that with the culture Hughes' rebuild has set.

Suzuki & leadership group goes on a tear after GM "rewards" then by not trading away assets...

RedWings leadership instead blames GM for not adding help to "give us a spark on the ice".

That right there reflects the difference between a burgeoning culture of excellence and a rebuild that has failed to get the culture pieces right.

 

[morhilane]

Heads are falling everywhere.

8th coaching changes since last November. Could be 9th if Vancouver lose theirs because they aren't extending him.
10th if NYI do some spring cleaning.

 

[Gustave]

Lol....

Contrast that with the culture Hughes' rebuild has set.

Suzuki & leadership group goes on a tear after GM "rewards" then by not trading away assets...

RedWings leadership instead blames GM for not adding help to "give us a spark on the ice".

That right there reflects the difference between a burgeoning culture of excellence and a rebuild that has failed to get the culture pieces right.

But don’t say that in the main board thread, you’ll get the Yzerman devotees at your throat. You know, “more patience needed”…

 

[dcyhabs]

If the Wings fans are to be believed, he still has decent amount of rope... You should go read their board and the Downfall thread on the main boards, I can't figure if it's copium induced delirium or Stevie Y is truly a mastermind.​

It’s pretty tough to say if an nhl exec is good/bad or lucky/unlucky. I gave MB a lot of chances but it’s clear in retrospect that he stunk. Yzerman built Wings teams that were expected to be good and get better, but they haven’t done either. Is it bad luck or bad projections?

 

[Ezpz]

But don’t say that in the main board thread, you’ll get the Yzerman devotees at your throat. You know, “more patience needed”…

But we won the lottery to get Kotkaniemi who isn't on the current team and Slaf, who is objectively worse than Seider, Raymond, and probably even Edvinsson. Also our finals run didn't count and apparently we've been rebuilding since 2016 according to their fans.

Lottery losses are the only thing that screwed them. Imagine if they had Lafreniere over Raymond? Or Power over Edvinsson? Even Hughes over Seider isn't some huge upgrade, but they picked 6th so far more likely is they move up to get Kakko. Plus they moved back two spots in 2019, obviously having Kotkaniemi and Hayton (sens were always taking brady) as choices would have made them pass on Zadina.

Don't you dare say they could have taken Quinn Hughes or taken literally anyone over Rasmussen the year prior, like say a Nick Suzuki. Don't you dare say they had 6 second round picks from 2019-2020 and got 0 serviceable NHLers. Not like there were top pairing D or top 6 forwards available like LaCombe, Protas, Dorofeeveferefevv, Peterka, Faber, Cuylle, Nikishin, etc. Or that they took Cossa first round over Wyatt Johnson. Dallas picked before them all the time right? They had four picks in 2019 and got Harley; that should be considered cheating.

So you see, Detroit was screwed. Yzerman is a saint. Also pls ignore 2018 draft where they had two firsts and two seconds and walked away with just Berggren.

Also u know it's impossible hronek or walman could be good in detroit. They only good in place on pacific ocean. JEff petry much better investment so it makes sense to pay San Jose a second to take Walman.

 

[Miller Time]

But don’t say that in the main board thread, you’ll get the Yzerman devotees at your throat. You know, “more patience needed”…

Ive been a big Yzerman proponent for a long time... Was miffed we didn't bring him in after Gainey, and as the architect of the Bolts dynasty, he showed a deft touch at empowering the right people in their hockey ops.

I thought he'd do great in Detroit... But 6 full years done, his track record there is mediocre at best. A few good draft picks, ok development program, but a bunch of terrible decisions in UFA & trade asset management, and some questionable coaching decisions.

Great for us. Hopefully ego & mounting pressure leads him to a few more missteps before he's done lol

 

[Gustave]

But we won the lottery to get Kotkaniemi who isn't on the current team and Slaf, who is objectively worse than Seider, Raymond, and probably even Edvinsson. Also our finals run didn't count and apparently we've been rebuilding since 2016 according to their fans.

Lottery losses are the only thing that screwed them. Imagine if they had Lafreniere over Raymond? Or Power over Edvinsson? Even Hughes over Seider isn't some huge upgrade, but they picked 6th so far more likely is they move up to get Kakko. Plus they moved back two spots in 2019, obviously having Kotkaniemi and Hayton (sens were always taking brady) as choices would have made them pass on Zadina.

Don't you dare say they could have taken Quinn Hughes or taken literally anyone over Rasmussen the year prior, like say a Nick Suzuki. Don't you dare say they had 6 second round picks from 2019-2020 and got 0 serviceable NHLers. Not like there were top pairing D or top 6 forwards available like LaCombe, Protas, Dorofeeveferefevv, Peterka, Faber, Cuylle, Nikishin, etc. Or that they took Cossa first round over Wyatt Johnson. Dallas picked before them all the time right? They had four picks in 2019 and got Harley; that should be considered cheating.

So you see, Detroit was screwed. Yzerman is a saint. Also pls ignore 2018 draft where they had two firsts and two seconds and walked away with just Berggren.

Also u know it's impossible hronek or walman could be good in detroit. They only good in place on pacific ocean. JEff petry much better investment so it makes sense to pay San Jose a second to take Walman.

Legit laughed. I know man, I’ve been shaking my head at the delusion of that part of their fanbase, but the wacko assessments of other team’s rebuilds is a work of fantasy.

I have no idea why they give their total confidence at that work because it’s a collision course with total averageness. There’s nothing more coming up that will push it to a wagon. ASP will be good but there’s a lot more needed there and they are getting older fast.

 

[Leto]

It’s pretty tough to say if an nhl exec is good/bad or lucky/unlucky. I gave MB a lot of chances but it’s clear in retrospect that he stunk. Yzerman built Wings teams that were expected to be good and get better, but they haven’t done either. Is it bad luck or bad projections?

I think it's fair for fans to be asking for progress after 6 years of rebuilding (under Yzerman's watch).

To me, it feels like Yzerman tried to accelerate his timeline in 2022 and 2023 by signing his UFAs, when he should have stayed the course and continue accruing talents at the top end of the draft. Instead they slotted themselves closer to the no-man's land in terms of drafting power. Kasper, Danielson, ASP and MBN all look like they are going to be good NHLers, but I don't get the vibe that they are going to be game-breakers. Another thing is I don't think they got anything valuable in the lower rounds of the draft.

Would the Wings' future be brighter if they had one of Michkov, Carlsson, Fantilli, Celebrini or Demidov in their prospect pool? I think it would.​

 

[Ezpz]

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Legit laughed. I know man, I’ve been shaking my head at the delusion of that part of their fanbase, but the wacko assessments of other team’s rebuilds is a work of fantasy.

I have no idea why they give their total confidence at that work because it’s a collision course with total averageness. There’s nothing more coming up that will push it to a wagon. ASP will be good but there’s a lot more needed there and they are getting older fast.

Not to mention the fact that Colorado had the all-time worst regular season and dropped to 4th. Instead of taking the Zadina in Middlestats they took Cale Makar, ranked 9th for NA players.

 

[Schooner Goon]

Jets win Game 2. That's a tall order for St Louis to come back and win 4 out of 5 against that stacked Jets team.

I'd love to see the Jets go far. Their fan base and management team deserves a good long playoff run.

 

[Forum93]

Harmonica anthem at the LA game's sooooo weak lol

 

[expy]

Skinner lol

 

[expy]

Gonna be a sweep in the Edmonton-LA series as well. Edmonton also had to get a goalie.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Botterill even as his own song from back when he was the Sabres GM.

Although it might not actually work out in his favor if the Kraken owners listen to the song first.

Francis was shit as Carolina G.M. and Botterill was shit as Buffalo's GM. No idea what they're doing in Seattle.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

4-1 Kings after 2. Edmonton only with 10 shots. Skinner with a brutal .764 save percentage.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Omg, Nurse - Bouchard was actually out as a defense pairing. That went about as well as expected. Brutal D on 3rd goal.

Bouchard throws puck into slot from behind his own net for Kings 4th goal.

 

[OnTheRun]

As long the Oilers get ousted quickly all is well in the universe. Bowman can go kick rocks.

 

[zx81]

What a ridiculous situation to watch a replay to determine if the puck touched the glass or not. They should change the rule . It should be a penalty no matter what if it was not deflected by another player or stick.

 

[red devil]