HF Habs: Out Of Town Thread: 2024 Off-Season edition

[Lafleurs Guy]

Mikey McLeod's heading to Kazakhstan

Wasn't this the guy Grant said was going to be a superstar? I remember it got pretty heated.

He's also got those legal issues coming up.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Wasn't this the guy Grant said was going to be a superstar? I remember it got pretty heated.

He's also got those legal issues coming up.

Yes it was.

 

[LaP]

Wasn't this the guy Grant said was going to be a superstar? I remember it got pretty heated.

He's also got those legal issues coming up.

Why would anyone predict that outside of maybe draft day. His junior and AHL stats and play in general were not matching someone projecting to be a super star. I'd say d+1 his projection was pretty much middle six with size and grit.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Why would anyone predict that outside of maybe draft day. His junior and AHL stats and play in general were not matching someone projecting to be a super star. I'd say d+1 his projection was pretty much middle six with size and grit.

I don’t know. But I remember the drama here.

 

[salbutera]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820525952633627026

 

[the valiant effort]

Swap Owen Nolan and Rick Nash

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820525952633627026

There's zero way Ovechkin doesn't belong in that top group.

 

[Tyson]

There's zero way Ovechkin doesn't belong in that top group.

% agree.

 

[LaP]

There's zero way Ovechkin doesn't belong in that top group.

Agree i mean the best goal scorer in NHL history has to be considered a league altering player. Also i would put Ekblad in the good but not 1st overall good.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Agree i mean the best goal scorer in NHL history has to be considered a league altering player. Also i would put Ekblad in the good but not 1st overall good.

I'd create a too injured to be an effective number one category and have him in it.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820525952633627026

The MacKinnon disrespect. Why is Connor Bedard above him?

I'd take MacKinnon before Matthews as well.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Why would anyone predict that outside of maybe draft day. His junior and AHL stats and play in general were not matching someone projecting to be a super star. I'd say d+1 his projection was pretty much middle six with size and grit.

McCagg loved his good frame and skating combination, and thought he was underrated as a potential playmaking, #1 centre.

McLeod is a good example of a player who was easy to project due his ability to place with pace, but he sure couldn't play within pace. I think he and CN were his biggest backers at the time.

I will also say that he ended up being a better player than Jost, who most of must got excited for.

 

[WeThreeKings]

McCagg loved his good frame and skating combination, and thought he was underrated as a potential playmaking, #1 centre.

McLeod is a good example of a player who was easy to project due his ability to place with pace, but he sure couldn't play within pace. I think he and CN were his biggest backers at the time.

I will also say that he ended up being a better player than Jost, who most of must got excited for.

Jost got hurt by being rushed out of the NCAA.. McLeod was developed properly but the flaws were always apparent, no hockey IQ, and a shot that couldn't beat junior goalies.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Jost got hurt by being rushed out of the NCAA.. McLeod was developed properly but the flaws were always apparent, no hockey IQ, and a shot that couldn't beat junior goalies.

I feel like Colorado lucked out a lot in the mid 2010s with the way they rushed prospects in general, led to several bad decisions that ultimately didn't affect their key players from leading to a cup win. Makar's good but unspectacular first year college numbers may have been for the best.

 

[Frenchy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820525952633627026

Wow , I few a few mistake on that list .

-OV should be on the top list
-Bedard will be a stud , but it's still too early to put him this high
- TVF said to swap Nolan and Nash and i agree
- MacKinnon should be on row #2
- W. Clark should go down a row

 

[ReHabs]

Lecavalier too high on that list, sadly. No way are him and Mats Sundin, Steven Stamkos, and Patrick Kane on the same tier. In fact it could be argued Sundin should go up a tier. Rick Nash and Slafkovsky too high (Slaf obviously has runway to change his stature and hopefully will). Nolan too low..

No Chris Phillips?

 

[LaP]

Wow , I few a few mistake on that list .

-OV should be on the top list
-Bedard will be a stud , but it's still too early to put him this high
- TVF said to swap Nolan and Nash and i agree
- MacKinnon should be on row #2
- W. Clark should go down a row

I started laughing when i saw Clark ranked that high. My dad was a nord / avs fan and i think if he could see this list from above he would find the adress of the guy who made it and would force him to publish a new list with Clark ranked lower. One of the worst trade in league's history.

 

[Tyson]

Mackinnon and Ovechkin are too low.
You can argue that both belong in the top tier.
Imo Mackinnon is as dominant at McDavid.

 

[GrandBison]

I started laughing when i saw Clark ranked that high. My dad was a nord / avs fan and i think if he could see this list from above he would find the adress of the guy who made it and would force him to publish a new list with Clark ranked lower. One of the worst trade in league's history.

Character trade ending up like it should

 

[GrandBison]

Wow , I few a few mistake on that list .

-OV should be on the top list
-Bedard will be a stud , but it's still too early to put him this high
- TVF said to swap Nolan and Nash and i agree
- MacKinnon should be on row #2
- W. Clark should go down a row

Turgeon is "absolute elite" only if you look at his stats lines. I like him but I don't know how many games Slaf has changed to qualify over Fleury.

 

[LaP]

Turgeon is "absolute elite" only if you look at his stats lines. I like him but I don't know how many games Slaf has changed to qualify over Fleury.

Turgeon was not elite outside of scoring goals where he definitily was. But his overall game was lacking for sure as a center. He was like not even top 3 in his draft. Sakic and Shanahan were imo better i'd i make a case for Fleury who had a shorter career but was better in playoffs. I like Turgeon though had a great shot but he could not be the main piece you build around. Turgeon would do better in the league today. He was playing a very similar game than Suzuki but had a much better shot his shot was deadly better than Patch.

 

[GrandBison]

Turgeon was not absolutely elite outside of scoring goals where he definitily was. But his overall game was lacking for sure as a center. He was like not even top 3 in his draft. Sakic and Shanahan were imo better i'd i make a case for Fleury who had a shorter career but was better in playoffs. I like Turgeon though had a great shot but he could not be the main piece you build around.

I meant Marc-André

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Turgeon was not elite outside of scoring goals where he definitily was. But his overall game was lacking for sure as a center. He was like not even top 3 in his draft. Sakic and Shanahan were imo better i'd i make a case for Fleury who had a shorter career but was better in playoffs. I like Turgeon though had a great shot but he could not be the main piece you build around.

Turgeon also got cross checked in the head early in his career while celebrating a goal. I think that made him more tentative than he would've been.

I won't be able to find the quote but I remember Mike Bossy saying something along the lines of 'it absolutely changes you when something like that happens.'

 

[LaP]

Turgeon also got cross checked in the head early in his career while celebrating a goal. I think that made him more tentative than he would've been.

Yeah i remember that it was Hunter right the year we won the cup? You're right he was not as dominant after that. Happened to Lafontaine too. In retrospective the head hunting in the 80ies and early 90ies was disgusting. I lost a lot of respect for Stevens over the years because of that. Used to glorify him when i was young but when i look at his hits today i can't help but be disgusted.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yeah i remember that. You're right he was not as dominant after that. Happened to Lafontaine too. In retrospective the head hunting in the 80ies and early 90ies was disgusting. I lost a lot of respect for Stevens over the years because of that. Used to glorify him when i was young but when i look at his hits today i can't help but be disgusted.

Stevens is an interesting case. His kind of hitting was encouraged. By the standards of the day, they were considered clean hits. But now? Yeesh.

The NHL should've stepped in much earlier. Careers like Karyia and Lindros being shortened is just brutal. Imagine what those guys could've done if not for the concussions.