HF Habs: Out Of Town Thread: 2024 Off-Season edition (Mod Warning #2635)

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CDN24

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Is he even allowed to do that as a restricted free agent?
He could but it would make signing an offersheet impossible. Remember when Ryan Oreilly was at a contract impasse with the Avs (2013) and signed an offersheet with Calgary. He had played a couple of games in Europe while holding out. There was a rule in CBA at the time (not sure if its still there) that said if a rfa played in Europe after NHL season started he would need to clear waivers to play in NHL for any team other than the one whose reserve list he was on. Calgary and maybe luckily for Calgary, colorado was unaware of the rule. Colorado matched but had they taken the RFA compensation which was A FIRST AND A 3RD, Flames would have needed to expose him to waivers. Avs were 1st on waiver priority, they could have taken the picks and then taken the player off waivers.

This may be the same rule that messed up Det's plans re Nabakov. They signed him as a UFA mid season in 2011 but because he had played in Europe had to be put on waivers, if memory serves the Isles claimed him and he did not report
 

morhilane

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Looks like Vegas got some help from the league with their cap space. What kind of BS is that? Can we do the same with Gallagher and Anderson?

edit: I guess Gallagher/Anderson did show up for camp, unlike Lehner, still. BS.
 
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LaP

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Looks like Vegas got some help from the league with their cap space. What kind of BS is that? Can we do the same with Gallagher and Anderson?

edit: I guess Gallagher/Anderson did show up for camp, unlike Lehner, still. BS.
We got cap relief for Price, Weber and Drouin. Is not that enough?

Lehner did not show up no reason to count him. Vegas could have terminated the deal and the result would have been the same they just asked the league to honor the deal while getting the same cap relief they would have gotten while terminating the countract. Also if Lehrer show up at camp he's probably going to LTIR which would have been the same result.
 
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Looks like Vegas got some help from the league with their cap space. What kind of BS is that? Can we do the same with Gallagher and Anderson?

edit: I guess Gallagher/Anderson did show up for camp, unlike Lehner, still. BS.

Lehner was previously on LTIR. His presence at camp is mandatory so they can either put him on the roster or LTIR.

They didn't recieve any preferential treatment as Lehner is at fault here. What are they supposed to do? Carry a cap hit for a player who isn't present? How is that fair?

I'm all for criticizing Vegas, But this is not on them, nor did they get some special treatment.
 

morhilane

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Lehner was previously on LTIR. His presence at camp is mandatory so they can either put him on the roster or LTIR.

They didn't recieve any preferential treatment as Lehner is at fault here. What are they supposed to do? Carry a cap hit for a player who isn't present? How is that fair?

I'm all for criticizing Vegas, But this is not on them, nor did they get some special treatment.
I wasn't criticizing Vegas, but the league. They change the rules when it suit them. This is a clear contract termination case without player's approval. Since Vegas is refusing to terminate, the salary shouldn't just be magicked away...
 

Grate n Colorful Oz

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I wasn't criticizing Vegas, but the league. They change the rules when it suit them. This is a clear contract termination case without player's approval. Since Vegas is refusing to terminate, the salary shouldn't just be magicked away...

IF ever there's preferential treatment, it's torwards Lehner who has hit the 9th circle of hell in his personal life and finance. Vegas not terminating the contract doesn't help them at all. It helps Lehner though. I'm sure the PA agrees with the move.
 
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OnTheRun

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I wasn't criticizing Vegas, but the league. They change the rules when it suit them. This is a clear contract termination case without player's approval. Since Vegas is refusing to terminate, the salary shouldn't just be magicked away...

Vegas and the league are kind of the losers in this story. It's a huge win for the PA tho, the contract isn't terminated and the player get paid in full, they can't ask for more.
 
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Prairie Habs

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We got cap relief for Price, Weber and Drouin. Is not that enough?

Lehner did not show up no reason to count him. Vegas could have terminated the deal and the result would have been the same they just asked the league to honor the deal while getting the same cap relief they would have gotten while terminating the countract. Also if Lehrer show up at camp he's probably going to LTIR which would have been the same result.

No, because Vegas would have had to go into off season LTIR, which means they wouldn't be accruing cap space as the season went on. The fact they now are is a huge boon for them.
 

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