HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024-2025 season

[nhlfan9191]

Very likely this is 100% true, so this should solve the mystery of why other teams valued other players ahead of him. Right?

I didn't see any such list. The WSH thing is a quote from a player (former scout?) and the ARI thing is obviously fake on its face: they had Cooley and Keller, they weren't gonna draft another small winger and likely weren't interested in him and him in them.

See, you jump again to fake stuff. Entitlement? What? Citation needed.

Citation needed.

Reinbacher was the Habs choice ahead of Michkov. This is obvious on its face.

I’ll admit what you asked for citations for is more opinionated on my part. But I just feel that stuff should be viewed as common sense from my experience in sports in general. There’s no way to actually pull sources on the stuff you’re asking because of how quiet Hughes was on the matter. Either way, I think they made the right decision given the info they had at the time of the pick and when the time comes where the fanbase rips apart HuGo if this rebuild doesn’t work, I won’t go after them for this particular decision like I did for a lot of Bergevin’s moves because I can understand where they were coming from. We picked Reinbacher, it was a good decision IMO regardless if it works out or not. Nobody could’ve predicted the injuries and it’s way to early to start playing judge, jury, and executioner on.

 

[ReHabs]

I’ll admit what you asked for citations for is more opinionated on my part. But I just feel that stuff should be viewed as common sense from my experience in sports in general. There’s no way to actually pull sources on the stuff you’re asking because of how quiet Hughes was on the matter. Either way, I think they made the right decision given the info they had at the time of the pick and when the time comes where the fanbase rips apart HuGo if this rebuild doesn’t work, I won’t go after them for this particular decision like I did for a lot of Bergevin’s moves because I can understand where they were coming from. We picked Reinbacher, it was a good decision IMO regardless if it works out or not. Nobody could’ve predicted the injuries and it’s way to early to start playing judge, jury, and executioner on.

See, this is precisely why I'm so insistent about this. You're a thoughtful commentator but you have blinders on with this topic and you're not the only one. The Habs didn't pick Michkov and he's smoking the league, so you and many others have constructed a rickety unwarranted rhetorical structure to justify why this has happened... but it wasn't NEVER necessary to get to this point.

Reinbacher was a fair enough pick at 5OA. The Habs had many reasons to pick Michkov... but many reasons to pick Reinbacher over Michkov: RD being a position of need, Michkov's contract in the KHL, Michkov's size+speed. All of it is on the table right there and HuGoBo said as much... and many of these factual arguments were insisted upon by many commentators here who blindly support HuGo's work. This is why I like to serve them their own factual, rational arguments back to them they force fed it to all of us, so it's just desserts. The conspiracy nonsense is simply not necessary. It's post-hoc cope.

Now, IF HuGo got their evaluation of Michkov's upside wrong, that's fine too, it happens and we should razz them for it without melting down. But if they got Reinbacher wrong, it'll be tough to swallow. We won't know that for a few more years at the earliest. Hopefully they didn't get it wrong.

 

[nhlfan9191]

See, this is precisely why I'm so insistent about this. You're a thoughtful commentator but you have blinders on with this topic and you're not the only one. The Habs didn't pick Michkov and he's smoking the league, so you and many others have constructed a rickety unwarranted rhetorical structure to justify why this has happened... but it wasn't NEVER necessary to get to this point.

Reinbacher was a fair enough pick at 5OA. The Habs had many reasons to pick Michkov... but many reasons to pick Reinbacher over Michkov: RD being a position of need, Michkov's contract in the KHL, Michkov's size+speed. All of it is on the table right there and HuGoBo said as much... and many of these factual arguments were insisted upon by many commentators here who blindly support HuGo's work. This is why I like to serve them their own factual, rational arguments back to them they force fed it to all of us, so it's just desserts. The conspiracy nonsense is simply not necessary. It's post-hoc cope.

Now, IF HuGo got their evaluation of Michkov's upside wrong, that's fine too, it happens and we should razz them for it without melting down. But if they got Reinbacher wrong, it'll be tough to swallow. We won't know that for a few more years at the earliest. Hopefully they didn't get it wrong.

It was never about upside with Michkov. He would’ve been selected 2nd if teams picked on that. It was risk vs reward. The risk wasn’t worth it. Time for a small section of our fanbase to move on. You keep bringing this conversation back non stop like it’s twitter. Go to those platforms if you want to have those type of conversations. Everyone here has moved on other then you.

 

[ReHabs]

It was never about upside with Michkov. He would’ve been selected 2nd if teams picked on that. It was risk vs reward. The risk wasn’t worth it.

Net upside.

Time for a small section of our fanbase to move on. You keep bringing this conversation back non stop like it’s twitter. Go to those platforms if you want to have those type of conversations. Everyone here has moved on other then you.

Who's bringing up the conspiracy nonsense and smears every time Michkov has a good game (often)? Ain't me, I don't peddle in that crap.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Net upside.

Who's bringing up the conspiracy nonsense and smears every time Michkov has a good game (often)? Ain't me, I don't peddle in that crap.

You need to let it go buddy.

 

[ReHabs]

You need to let it go buddy.

Okay man, next time someone smears the teenager I'll tag you in to pour some water on that.

Moving on, will Noah Dobson break the league record for defenseman cap hit when he signs next year?

 

[the valiant effort]

 

[nhlfan9191]

Okay man, next time someone smears the teenager I'll tag you in to pour some water on that.

Moving on, will Noah Dobson break the league record for defenseman cap hit when he signs next year?

This is just a weird thing to day

Okay man, next time someone smears the teenager I'll tag you in to pour some water on that.

Moving on, will Noah Dobson break the league record for defenseman cap hit when he signs next year?

Nobody is smearing Michkov’s name. Go to the Flyers board if you want to talk about his potential and cheer him on. He isn’t our prospect and it’s annoying listening to you whine about it.

 

[HuGort]

Rags are on a 3 game losing streak, are 5-5 in last 10 games, and have given up 40+ shots during that losing streak. Vets are driftless except for Panarin. Rags fans want Kreider & Trouba gone in particular. Lol

Florida is also on a 4 game losing streak and are 4-6 in last 10. Toronto could easily win the Atlantic this year. 2 straight Stanley Cup finals might be catching up to Florida. That's a lot of hockey. Plus, they lost a lot of depth last summer especially on D.

Colorado could miss the playoffs because their goaltending is beyond shit. It's hard to believe they've allowed this to go on so long. They have a great team that's being completely undone by the worst goaltending in the league. Just terrible management of what should be a consistently elite team.

Cup or bust year for Rangers

 

[Tyson]

Man it just hit me...Sid the Kid is 37! That's a bummer

 

[ReHabs]

Logan Cooley, 17 in 22, 5pts in his last 3gp. No sophomore slump. Curious where he’d go in the 2023 draft. His prospect profile didn’t seem better than Carlsson or Fantili’s but maybe ahead of Smith?