NHL Out of Town talk - Hell breaks loose as Byram, Eklund, Nemec, the 4OA pick, Kyrou, Etcetera, all find new homes

[DaBroons]

This may be the tin can on a string effect but I had read Harry did want Brown initially, but pivoted to Ray and overruled the scouts who wanted Brown.

We'll never know b/c Brown was gone wasn't he?

 

[quietbruinfan]

We'll never know b/c Brown was gone wasn't he?

Yep, and that fact makes your version, and Rosa's, make more sense.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

Well I hope DS doesn't feel pressure to do something stupid. Like promise David something he can't deliver....those who know ...know

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[BMC]

Holy f***.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Clearly the Hawks are planning to extend Byram. I'd just assume at this point that they do.

25-year old former No.4 overall pick just coming into his own. Was terrific in the playoffs and looked every bit the top pair D-man he was projected to be when he was drafted. He'll go into Chicago, get fed the most minutes and the most offensive touches of any of their D, tons of PP time, and I'd fully expect him numbers to jump maybe 15-20 points. How else was Chicago getting this type of two-way puck-moving D-man who fits their age range of the rest of their group? He's at worst a puck-moving #2 the next decade for them, a year from now people might be talking about him as a #1 if his numbers jump into the 60 point range (and they should given the opportunity he'll have in front of him).

Sure they could of sat on the 4th pick and took a D-man there like Carels or Reid or Verhoeff, but doubtful any of them are big-time contributors in the next 2-3 years and no guarantees any of them pan out. Highly unlikely at this point Stenberg would of been there at #4 either. Six straight years out of the playoffs at some point draft-and-develop only gets you so far. Especially in a major US market like Chicago

Crevier is a solid add for Buffalo but doubtful he's ever a top-pair guy. With Vlasic, Kaiser, Levshunov, Korchinski and Rinzel, Hawks could afford to part with Crevier even if he might end up a solid 2nd pair D with tons of length. Good player who will help them immediately.

The Greenway inclusion is inconsequential from a Hawks perspective. UFA after next year and they aren't likely to spend to the cap this year, so that's the price you pay to get the deal done. They have the majority of their team under contract already and even including Greenway, they are a couple million under the salary cap floor which no one ever seems to consider, so in that sense it is consequential to try and hit the cap floor.

Clearly Buffalo wants to gain space to try and convince hometown boy Tuch to stay, hence the Greenway inclusion.

I don't get all the angst for this deal for Chicago. They paid a fair price for 25-year old Bowen Byram in a very expensive trade market. And fans are simply overvaluing that 4th overall pick. Now that it appears that Stenberg won't be there at #4 with the moves made by San Jose yesterday, the value of that pick had diminished which I believe factored into the Bryam decision.

Agree on the extension part but is Byram really THAT good? In the playoffs I thought he was excellent against the Bruins but the Habs shut him down pretty well - just 2 points and -6 through 7 games and he didn't seem to handle some of the pressure very well. He's clearly talented and at 25 you can still expect him to get better, but how much? Whether he's a true top pair guy I guess we will find out. If so, this works, if not, perhaps not so much.

The other part is the price - did it really need pick 4 and more besides to get it done? Guess we'll never know who else was in on Bowen. Really though I think it really comes down to performance, and in that sense you're very much right - if Byram is a 1-2D, end of the day no complaints. I had a peak at the Chicago board, and most of their fans don't rate him that highly and they're in meltdown over there. For their sake they'll have to be hoping that you and their GM are right and the pessimism is misplaced.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

Agree on the extension part but is Byram really THAT good? In the playoffs I thought he was excellent against the Bruins but the Habs shut him down pretty well - just 2 points and -6 through 7 games and he didn't seem to handle some of the pressure very well. He's clearly talented and at 25 you can still expect him to get better, but how much? Whether he's a true top pair guy I guess we will find out. If so, this works, if not, perhaps not so much.

The other part is the price - did it really need pick 4 and more besides to get it done? Guess we'll never know who else was in on Bowen. Really though I think it really comes down to performance, and in that sense you're very much right - if Byram is a 1-2D, end of the day no complaints. I had a peak at the Chicago board, and most of their fans don't rate him that highly and they're in meltdown over there. For their sake they'll have to be hoping that you and their GM are right and the pessimism is misplaced.

It's about Bedard ...the brass doesnt want to lose him from discontent. In my mind a 4th OA to get Byram AND to keep Bedard happy and potentially resigning is well worth it. IMO Chicago saw the writing on the wall and did what was needed.

 

[8Neely8]