NHL Out of Town talk - Hell breaks loose as Byram, Eklund, Nemec, the 4OA pick, Kyrou, Etcetera, all find new homes

[BMC]

Day drinking!

 

[Boston Bandit]

Have they drug tested Kyle Davidson yet?

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[Over the volcano]

It's true that the Bruins did not leverage their physical advantage in the playoffs. While they didn't need to get caught up trying to beat up Buffalo, they did not run them off the ice either. For whatever reasons. . .

The league shut it down - Kastelic's "roughing" 2 min into game five sent the message clear as a bell

 

[TP70BruinsCup]

Rick DiPietro is hockey’s version of Bobby Bonilla…..if you know what I mean. July 1st is ‘Bobby Bonilla Day’

 

[BruinDust]

Have they drug tested Kyle Davidson yet?

He should be sat back with his feet up smoking a big doobie, comfortable in the fact he's got a top pair puck-moving D-man for the next decade.

 

[quietbruinfan]

He should be sat back with his feet up smoking a big doobie, comfortable in the fact he's got a top pair puck-moving D-man for the next decade.

Wrong. This has a good chance of being a historically bad trade for the Hawks.

 

[gerrycheeversmask]

He should be sat back with his feet up smoking a big doobie, comfortable in the fact he's got a top pair puck-moving D-man for the next decade.

Byram has only one year left on his contract, and he wants 10 M a season on his next one.

 

[BruinDust]

Wrong. This has a good chance of being a historically bad trade for the Hawks.

You are seriously overrating the value of that #4 pick and the players who will be available there. Now that it appears one way or another neither McKenna nor Stenberg will be there at #4, that pick looses serious value.

Even if they really like say Chase Reid for example, there is no guarantee he's still there at #4 because you have Vancouver picking at #3. And there is no guarantee any of those players amount to anything substantial. Not every Top 5 pick goes on to be a superstar.

This is a big market franchise that has missed the playoffs 6 years, hasn't been a going concern in over a decade. With a franchise player (Bedard) who needs a new contract and not sure if you've notice but the players don't really seem to care who holds their rights anymore. If they want out, they'll demand a way out. Does Chicago have 3-4 years to wait for whatever D-man is at #4 to be an impact player for them?

Byram has only one year left on his contract, and he wants 10 M a season on his next one.

And they'll give it to him, likely already agreed upon and will be signed July 1st.

 

[quietbruinfan]

You are seriously overrating the value of that #4 pick and the players who will be available there. Now that it appears one way or another neither McKenna nor Stenberg will be there at #4, that pick looses serious value.

Even if they really like say Chase Reid for example, there is no guarantee he's still there at #4 because you have Vancouver picking at #3. And there is no guarantee any of those players amount to anything substantial. Not every Top 5 pick goes on to be a superstar.

This is a big market franchise that has missed the playoffs 6 years, hasn't been a going concern in over a decade. With a franchise player (Bedard) who needs a new contract and not sure if you've notice but the players don't really seem to care who holds their rights anymore. If they want out, they'll demand a way out. Does Chicago have 3-4 years to wait for whatever D-man is at #4 to be an impact player for them?



And they'll give it to him, likely already agreed upon and will be signed July 1st.

Does the name Ray Bourque mean anything to you? Never mind the second part of the trade which is quite bad.

 

[BruinDust]

Does the name Ray Bourque mean anything to you?

My favorite player of all-time. Not sure how he's relevant to this discussion. Enlighten me.

 

[PB37]

You are seriously overrating the value of that #4 pick and the players who will be available there. Now that it appears one way or another neither McKenna nor Stenberg will be there at #4, that pick looses serious value.

Even if they really like say Chase Reid for example, there is no guarantee he's still there at #4 because you have Vancouver picking at #3. And there is no guarantee any of those players amount to anything substantial. Not every Top 5 pick goes on to be a superstar.

This is a big market franchise that has missed the playoffs 6 years, hasn't been a going concern in over a decade. With a franchise player (Bedard) who needs a new contract and not sure if you've notice but the players don't really seem to care who holds their rights anymore. If they want out, they'll demand a way out. Does Chicago have 3-4 years to wait for whatever D-man is at #4 to be an impact player for them?



And they'll give it to him, likely already agreed upon and will be signed July 1st.

I think the word on the street was that Byram wanted to go somewhere he could be the unquestioned #1 guy. He'll be that in Chicago. Count me in as one of the few that actually likes this move for them. He's young, highly skilled, and has another level to his potential for him to reach for. I think he'll be very good for them.

 

[quietbruinfan]

My favorite player of all-time. Not sure how he's relevant to this discussion. Enlighten me.

Ray was the number 8 pick in a loaded draft and his rights were acqired for Ron Graeme, a decent goalie who was done. You don't trade a possible franchise d for a number 2 or 3. Did I mention the other part of the trade was pretty terrible too?

 

[BruinDust]

I think the word on the street was that Byram wanted to go somewhere he could be the unquestioned #1 guy. He'll be that in Chicago. Count me in as one of the few that actually likes this move for them. He's young, highly skilled, and has another level to his potential for him to reach for. I think he'll be very good for them.

I do as well. Just the increase in touches and looks he'll get now in the offensive zone as their top puck-moving guy he'll probably see a 15-20 point increase.

I think both teams did well. Chevier will be a good D for Buffalo and they have enough talent in their system both up front and on D they can afford to wait for whoever they take (F or D) at #4 to pop.

 

[PB37]

I do as well. Just the increase in touches and looks he'll get now in the offensive zone as their top puck-moving guy he'll probably see a 15-20 point increase.

I think both teams did well. Chevier will be a good D for Buffalo and they have enough talent in their system both up front and on D they can afford to wait for whoever they take (F or D) at #4 to pop.

This move also insulates their top pick from a couple of years ago ( Levshunov, #2 overall ) from having to be rushed and pressured to be The Guy there. Now he's got a top tier partner he can feed off of.

 

[Ludwig Fell Down]

Rick DiPietro is hockey’s version of Bobby Bonilla…..if you know what I mean. July 1st is ‘Bobby Bonilla Day’

That's the first thing that came to my mind. I wonder if DiPietro and Bobby Bo get together for a steak dinner every July 1.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Gastrin, I don't know. McMichael is a solid, small quick center our equivalent would almost be Minten. It just shows the gaps Don S Weenie has left in this organization.

Mittlestadt is not comparable to McMichael.

Connor is 25 and is a top 6 center with room to grow.
Mittlestadt is a middle-six winger, who is what he is.
One player is rising, the other is stalled.

Very different values and players.

He mostly plays wing

 

[TP70BruinsCup]

That's the first thing that came to my mind. I wonder if DiPietro and Bobby Bo get together for a steak dinner every July 1.

Yeah! LOL! Then argue over who will pick up the bill!!!

 

[Beyonder]

Ray was the number 8 pick in a loaded draft and his rights were acqired for Ron Graeme, a decent goalie who was done. You don't trade a possible franchise d for a number 2 or 3. Did I mention the other part of the trade was pretty terrible too?

I also feel that Chicago was bent over a bit with the Buffalo trade but I can see the rationale for Chicago. I don't agree with it, but I can see it.

The clock has been ticking on the Chicago rebuild. There is growing sentiment that it is taking too long, is not going well enough, and how do you keep Bedard happy if they don't progress. They also still have numerous previous 1st round draft picks percolating in their system. Trading for Byram is a reaction to that situation, I think - get better faster. It's Davidson getting happy feet that things are going too slow.

This would have been the 7th time since 2018 that the Blackhawks would have drafted in the top 10, including #1, #2, #3 the past 3 years and yet they're still doing that. 16 1st rounders selected since 2018. The impatience may have pushed them into a rash trade. Hopefully both teams get what they wanted to out of the deal in the end.

Also: The Sabres admitting today that they are not keeping Tuch takes some wind out of their sails. Now they have lost 2 good players that were part of their ascension last season. They have work to do to keep the good times going.

 

[marianne99]

Are they gonna do another crazy afternoon? Tuch to Caps

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

Ty. Keep saving Don from Don!

 

[8Neely8]

Another one bites the dust

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

Third round pick. We could not afford him. Have what 16 mill for cap? Peeke and Vark gonna suck up at least 9. Donny gonna keep the band together.

 

[DaBroons]

Ray was the number 8 pick in a loaded draft and his rights were acqired for Ron Graeme, a decent goalie who was done. You don't trade a possible franchise d for a number 2 or 3. Did I mention the other part of the trade was pretty terrible too?

And Harry was planning to pick Keith Brown, but Chicago took him one pick earlier. The source was none other the legendary HHOF writer Fran Rosa of the Globe. Rosa also said in his column/article that day that the 2nd player that Harry coveted in addition to Brown was Keith Crowder, whom da Broons selected in Round 3. So, personally, I've always assumed that Mr Rosa was correct.

 

[quietbruinfan]

And Harry was planning to pick Keith Brown, but Chicago took him one pick earlier. The source was none other the legendary HHOF writer Fran Rosa of the Globe. Rosa also said in his column/article that day that the 2nd player that Harry coveted in addition to Brown was Keith Crowder, whom da Broons selected in Round 3. So, personally, I've always assumed that Mr Rosa was correct.

This may be the tin can on a string effect but I had read Harry did want Brown initially, but pivoted to Ray and overruled the scouts who wanted Brown.