NHL Out of Town talk - Hell breaks loose as Byram, Eklund, Nemec, the 4OA pick, Kyrou, Etcetera, all find new homes

[Over the volcano]

The Canes team play can do this to a great player....just ask Jack Eichel, who disappeared in the finals.
Florida is loaded now, they must be the odds on favorite to win the cup next year, even with no goalie signed yet.
Donnie should be on the phone and see if they want Korpi for Rodrigues?

Eichel put up 4 pts in 6 games against the Canes

 

[22Brad Park]

Eichel put up 4 pts in 6 games against the Canes

Eichel 2 goals in 22 playoff games is just wild.He had 20 assists though ,so he was involved.I thought he could have been better vs Canes in a final ,but still a great player.

 

[Hookslide]

I posed the question to Haggs in a mailbag: should the NHL consider implementing a sliding Salary Cap?

What we're seeing is starting to look like collusion, with star players bending their organizations over a barrel with 3-4 team trade lists to the same three teams.

If a state/province has no income tax, the Salary Cap should be adjusted down by, let's say, 4-5%. Nothing earth shattering, but enough to make it a little harder for Florida and Texas teams to gain a competitive advantage.

The Salary Cap was imposed to create a competitive balance and offer owners a "set cost", but it's been weaponized to the advantage of a handful of teams. Something needs to change, or we will start seeing Canadien franchises like Ottawa and Winnipeg marginalized and talent-starved.

I have an idea, stop voting for the same corrupt people that love these, pocket lining taxes.

 

[Over the volcano]

Eichel 2 goals in 22 playoff games is just wild.He had 20 assists though ,so he was involved.I thought he could have been better vs Canes in a final ,but still a great player.

The "goals" is overplayed - guy was a PPG and a hair over it for his playoff career.

 

[Hookslide]

people talking about B. Tkachuk like he's some kind of Neely clone or something.

 

[22Brad Park]

I posed the question to Haggs in a mailbag: should the NHL consider implementing a sliding Salary Cap?

What we're seeing is starting to look like collusion, with star players bending their organizations over a barrel with 3-4 team trade lists to the same three teams.

If a state/province has no income tax, the Salary Cap should be adjusted down by, let's say, 4-5%. Nothing earth shattering, but enough to make it a little harder for Florida and Texas teams to gain a competitive advantage.

The Salary Cap was imposed to create a competitive balance and offer owners a "set cost", but it's been weaponized to the advantage of a handful of teams. Something needs to change, or we will start seeing Canadien franchises like Ottawa and Winnipeg marginalized and talent-starved.

This is a very good post with some great insight

 

[22Brad Park]

The "goals" is overplayed - guy was a PPG and a hair over it for his playoff career.

Don't disagree but I thought he could have played better vs Canes using eyeball test .Extra goal here or there changes that series around maybe

 

[Hookslide]

There are some who talk about him like he is a Matt Belesky clone.

 

[Hookslide]

Dean is going back to college another season .Let's take out time here and develop him properly.I think he is still just 20.

I am with you, but maybe take the same approach with Hagens, some have him centering Pasta, brilliant.

 

[Over the volcano]

Don't disagree but I thought he could have played better vs Canes using eyeball test .Extra goal here or there changes that series around maybe

Fair - only Marner put up more pts in the post season too though. Seems like a tough comparison to for yaz to try and prop up Tkachuk's 0fer playoff.

 

[Hookslide]

Yep - and stay healthy too!

I was sure FLA was the team to beat heading into training camp last year. Barkov gets hurt and other injuries happen and they miss the playoffs. They are well stacked for sure…..but we also have the memory of the 2023 team (gulp ) to tell us it’s still sports and anything can happen.

Remember this past season is also one of their shortest in a while, doesn't hurt.

 

[Fingertools]

It's amazing to me that a mere 24 hours ago there were people saying that Florida's 2028 unprotected #1 pick Boston has might be a top 10 pick and they should be careful if they were going to trade it. Now with Brady they are a juggernaught for the next 3 - 4 years!

The fact is with our without Brady the Panthers were not only a contender for the cup, but imo they might even be favoured. They aren't old, their average age is about 29.5, a few very good years left for the core.

And for all those wondering how they will be able to restock the cupboard, in a few years they will have a plethora of still producing players they can sell for draft picks as the years go on, this is what the Montreal Canadiens dynasty did so well.

 

[Hookslide]

Sturm wouldn't even dress Hagens, you really think he's gonna be slotted at 1C? Sturm would rather play the son of his buddy and countryman, Reichel.

He better be or Sturm sucks, and Hagens is a bust.

 

[KrejciMVP]

The Tkachuk brothers will definitely be a must watch like them or dislike them along side Marchand. Now thats entertainment

 

[Midship]

He better be or Sturm sucks, and Hagens is a bust.

I think Sturm sucks regardless, Hagens... time will tell but off to a terrible start as a pro

 

[Hookslide]

The "goals" is overplayed - guy was a PPG and a hair over it for his playoff career.

And you might add that he has won a cup, and a major contributor.

 

[Beyonder]

The Tkachuk brothers will definitely be a must watch like them or dislike them along side Marchand. Now thats entertainment

The Florida vs Tampa games have been wild the past year, those teams really go at it. I think they are likely to get a whole lot wilder. Poor Hagel will have his hands full.

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[WickedWitch74]

I have an idea, stop voting for the same corrupt people that love these, pocket lining taxes.

Just so we're on the same page:

Canada’s combined top federal and provincial marginal tax rates hover between 44% and 54%, depending on the province. The highest U.S. federal marginal rate is 37%, which—combined with state taxes—results in a top rate of roughly 37% in no-income-tax states to around 50% in high-tax states like California.

We're talking about a 17% difference for high earners in places like Toronto vs. Florida.

That's a HUGE advantage for the Panthers as they can basically offer a player considerably less money which lets them build a much stronger team.

 

[Grimey]

The Canes team play can do this to a great player....just ask Jack Eichel, who disappeared in the finals.
Florida is loaded now, they must be the odds on favorite to win the cup next year, even with no goalie signed yet.
Donnie should be on the phone and see if they want Korpi for Rodrigues?

Speaking of Eichel, I didn’t see much outrage over him disappearing but Marner got roasted despite having a game with 3 goals and 4 points in said finals. Mostly Leafs Nation crying because they were mad and found it soft that he couldn’t handle personal threats

 

[jgatie]

Just so we're on the same page:

Canada’s combined top federal and provincial marginal tax rates hover between 44% and 54%, depending on the province. The highest U.S. federal marginal rate is 37%, which—combined with state taxes—results in a top rate of roughly 37% in no-income-tax states to around 50% in high-tax states like California.

We're talking about a 17% difference for high earners in places like Toronto vs. Florida.

That's a HUGE advantage for the Panthers as they can basically offer a player considerably less money which lets them build a much stronger team.

And as usual, the numbers aren't nearly as dire as a poster suggests. First off, you are taxed where you play, not where you live. So that "17% advantage" doesn't apply to 50% of their salary, because every player plays half their games away, and are taxed by the laws in that state/province. In general, for that 50%, the tax "advantage" for living in a tax free state evens out to nothing at all.

 

[Hookslide]

Just so we're on the same page:

Canada’s combined top federal and provincial marginal tax rates hover between 44% and 54%, depending on the province. The highest U.S. federal marginal rate is 37%, which—combined with state taxes—results in a top rate of roughly 37% in no-income-tax states to around 50% in high-tax states like California.

We're talking about a 17% difference for high earners in places like Toronto vs. Florida.

That's a HUGE advantage for the Panthers as they can basically offer a player considerably less money which lets them build a much stronger team.

So, we agree

 

[WickedWitch74]

And as usual, the numbers aren't nearly as dire as a poster suggests. First off, you are taxed where you play, not where you live. So that "17% advantage" doesn't apply to 50% of their salary, because every player plays half their games away, and are taxed by the laws in that state/province. In general, for that 50%, the tax "advantage" for living in a tax free state evens out to nothing at all.

I'm sure you're right. Operating in a tax-free state for half of your games gives you zero advantage when attracting high-earning talent.

Why on earth would Tesla, Hewlett-Packard, Oracle and Charles Schwab flee California for Texas? Must be for the BBQ.

 

[Hookslide]

I'm sure you're right. Operating in a tax-free state for half of your games gives you zero advantage when attracting high-earning talent.

Why on earth would Tesla, Hewlett-Packard, Oracle and Charles Schwab flee California for Texas? Must be for the BBQ.

Awesome

 

[jgatie]

I'm sure you're right. Operating in a tax-free state for half of your games gives you zero advantage when attracting high-earning talent.

Why on earth would Tesla, Hewlett-Packard, Oracle and Charles Schwab flee California for Texas? Must be for the BBQ.

To the bolded - I said nothing of the sort, so please don't put words in my mouth. All I said was the advantage was not as great as simply quoting the tax rates between home cities implies. Now if you have some rebuttal of that which doesn't consists of a wholly strawman argument, then have at it.