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I think we're still at a stage where we should be upgrading where possible without expending serious capital. We have several interesting prospects prepared to make the jump, and several of our top players are still in early stages of development. We can probably sign a center without giving up any assets. And if next year continues the trend we're on, we can swing a deal if necessary. And I don't see the rush in putting someone like Demidov, or even Hage (whose character is perfectly adapted to our core), on the table for a deal. Just based on development, addition of new pieces within the system, and team progression in learning MSL's approach, we're likely to make another jump in the standings next year.
 
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please hugo, do not trade guhle or reinbacher! i'd rather give dach one more chance at 2c than trade one of those two. defence wins championships! we have more than enough resources to acquire a 2c without destroying potentially dominant d corps. trade hage, beck, kapanen, every first you want, give sam bennett 9m, i don't care.
 
Demidov, Caufield, Suzuki, & Lane are completely untouchable. Maybe Slaf too but depends on the player in return. Don’t like any trade involving Demidov at all.
 
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It's not. The best players tend to be number one centers but I'd much rather a supserstar winger than a 1C. Always take the more talented player.

And there's no way we should look at trading Demidov for anyone right now. Gavin Mckenna or Bedard or Celebrini... he's in that elite group of prospects.

One thing I'd disagree with @Goldenhands on though, I think you have to rank Hutson over Demidov at least for now. Hutson's already proved he can dominate at the NHL level. As talented as Demidov may be, we can only hope he's as good as Hutson's been.
I didnt include our young roster players since they are unlikely to get moved, for me Slaf and Hutson are in the untouchables category while Id be surprised if Guhle or Xhekaj get traded, at least in the short term, unless Hughes plans to extend Matheson or Engstrom makes big strides in his development.

Edit: @Lafleurs Guy Just realized that the list you refer to is not mine lol, thats the first post of the thread, mine is post 151, I considere Hutson as graduated.
 
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I don't see any player in the system making Arber Xhekaj expendable. I think a third pairing spot is his until he ages out of being effective.

Further, there is plenty of space on the Habs D for incoming rookies. Savard will be gone soon. Matheson and Struble are both expendable of someone really good comes along. And there's always an injury or two at any given time.
 
I'd have no issues trading Reinbacher at this point if it meant fixing the C position after 35 years. I think we would have to add much more to the package though
 
I don’t know. I think Fowler is as close to untouchable as you can get. He’s just a gamer that will find ways to win games. I think he has that X factor that all of the great goalies do. The type of goaltender that lets in a bad goal and challenges himself to not let it happen again.

Hage had nice stats but he has a lot of work to do himself before I see an NHL 2C. That great speed, cut from outside to inside move, and success on the PP. He needs to add more than that to his repertoire.
My philosophy is that goalies development is the most random out of all players. You can even find good goalies on waivers (a la Montembeault).
While Fowler looks like a wall, Primeau also looked like a wall at that level and has not made it at the NHL level.
Having the X factor in juniors do not always mean you'll have it at the NHL level.
If Askarov got a B prospect and a 1st rounder, we can definitely add Fowler to package for a 2C as long as the right offer comes along.
 
Mailloux, Dobes, Beck, Roy, 1st & 2nd round picks.

I feel like some combination of these assets could land us a pretty serviceable 2C while we wait for one of Hage, Kapanen, or someone else to emerge from within.

We can afford to wait and see how things shake out. Keep in mind that with Suzuki’s continued development that now has him on the cusp of joining the league’s elite tier of centers, we really only need a 2C capable of producing 50-60 points, preferably with decent faceoff ability and defensive game. That shouldn’t be that hard to find, either via trade or from within the prospect pool.

I wouldn’t be interested in moving anything worth more than the above group of assets, unless it was for a young C with top line potential - think along the lines of the Cozens deal. Even then, it would require some careful consideration, as you don’t want to dig into the team’s depth too much, both in terms of roster and prospect pool. We aren’t in a position where we need to do that, which is why I think Hughes didn’t pursue Cozens too aggressively - BUF wanted too much for us with how much of a gamble Cozens still is.

Mailloux: he’s got the potential to be a decent PMD in the NHL. However, I think he’s been made redundant by both the emergence of Hutson and the drafting of Reinbacher. Hutson is a LD, but he already fills the role you hope that Mailloux will someday be able to. Reinbacher is a more complete two-way type of D, who may eventually develop the type of offensive game that Mailloux is known for anyway. Mailloux is the odd man out, imo.

Dobes: looks to have a decent chance of becoming an NHL goaltender. I don’t see his ceiling as being all that high though, tbh. I think best case scenario, he becomes an okay (average) #1 goalie. Who knows if he ever actually reaches that ceiling though. The problem is that we have Fowler in the pipeline, as well as Volokhin. Imo, both these guys have a higher ceiling. Thats not to say that both will end up better, but you have to play the odds and someone has to be the odd man out, especially since we can get by rolling with Montembeault until one of the other two (Fowler or Volokhin) emerges.

Beck: love this kid’s work ethic and attitude, and I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he’s an NHL player someday, but I just don’t see very high upside here - imo he has a Scott Laughton type of ceiling, which is great to have, but with Evans signed for the next 4 years, and some of the other pieces we have in the system, I think we can afford to package him for something of more use. Again, ideally you’d like to keep him, but I don’t see top-six upside and we are going to need to trade someone of value if we are going to go after a 2C.

Roy: has top-six PP specialist type upside (think Michael Ryder). We don’t really have room for a guy like this anytime soon, unless it’s filling in for injuries in the top-six. He doesn’t have the skillset for a bottom-six role. Pretty redundant piece, imo, but he will have some kind of value to teams looking for a future winger with scoring upside. I think we see him dealt sooner rather than later.

Imo, these 4 pieces are right in the sweet spot in terms of trade value; they all have enough value that they could return something decent if packaged together or with picks, but at the same time, we can afford to part with any or all of them if it gets us the piece(s) we need.
 
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My philosophy is that goalies development is the most random out of all players. You can even find good goalies on waivers (a la Montembeault).
While Fowler looks like a wall, Primeau also looked like a wall at that level and has not made it at the NHL level.
Having the X factor in juniors do not always mean you'll have it at the NHL level.
If Askarov got a B prospect and a 1st rounder, we can definitely add Fowler to package for a 2C as long as the right offer comes along.
Primeau’s drawback is exactly Fowler’s strength - the mental game. Primeau gives up a bad or early goal and it’s over, he’s rattled for the rest of the game. Fowler doesn’t have that.

And Montembeault is a great example of why we should keep Fowler. He’s an average goalie with a clear ceiling. He’s not a workhorse.
 
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I'd have no issues trading Reinbacher at this point if it meant fixing the C position after 35 years. I think we would have to add much more to the package though

I wouldn’t, especially after reading all the feedback on this board around his play in Laval. It would create a hole on the future right side of the defence, which is already weak. I think weakening one tough to find position to strengthen another isn’t going to help this team reach contender status. I think Guhle, Hutson, and Reinbacher is their future 20 minute + a night defensive core they need to build around. I know a 2C will be tough to find, but I’m hopeful Hughes can do so without giving up key core players.
 
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The only core player we can afford toggle up without gutting a particular position, or without the move being a lateral move is Guhle.

Pretty sure the trade could be Guhle - Young 2C one on one, but I'd add one of Beck or Kapanen to the deal.

Hutson - Reinbacher
Matheosn - Carrier
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Engström, Struble
 
The only core player we can afford toggle up without gutting a particular position, or without the move being a lateral move is Guhle.

Pretty sure the trade could be Guhle - Young 2C one on one, but I'd add one of Beck or Kapanen to the deal.

Hutson - Reinbacher
Matheosn - Carrier
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Engström, Struble
Matheson should not be a part of this team next season. I could probably make an hour video of him making low IQ decisions, if I had the free time.

Also, before the injury, Guhle was playing so well with Carrier. They had instant chemistry.
 
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I wouldn’t, especially after reading all the feedback on this board around his play in Laval. It would create a hole on the future right side of the defence, which is already weak. I think weakening one tough to find position to strengthen another isn’t going to help this team reach contender status. I think Guhle, Hutson, and Reinbacher is their future 20 minute + a night defensive core they need to build around. I know a 2C will be tough to find, but I’m hopeful Hughes can do so without giving up key core players.

For me it's his injuries thus far, I don't feel warm and fuzzy about keeping him and injury prone Guhle on the core. I know what we get with Guhle, no idea what DR will deliver. However I'd be all for trading a package this year and Calgary's first round pick back to them for Zayne Parekh ....
 
please hugo, do not trade guhle or reinbacher! i'd rather give dach one more chance at 2c than trade one of those two. defence wins championships! we have more than enough resources to acquire a 2c without destroying potentially dominant d corps. trade hage, beck, kapanen, every first you want, give sam bennett 9m, i don't care.
i was gonna like your post until I read your last two sentences. You sure you want to make Bennett our most paid player. Might as well kick Suzuki in the nuts
 
Matheson should not be a part of this team next season. I could probably make an hour video of him making low IQ decisions, if I had the free time.

Also, before the injury, Guhle was playing so well with Carrier. They had instant chemistry.
If he didn’t nuke his value this season, Matheson would’ve a nice sweetener in a deal for a 2C.
 
All the Matheson haters are going to lose it when he extends next year.

You cannot win in the NHL without a veteran d corps. It's laughable to thing this team won't regress if Carrier is your only D man older than 25.

He is so valuable to this team especially now that he is becoming a defensive D first. Best PK and match up D on the team this year. If Guhle could play a whole season, we can start cutting down Matheson minutes, that being said you would still need veteran presence on the d corp.

Guhle-Hutson
Matheson-Carrier
Xhehaj/Struble - Reinbacher
 
All the Matheson haters are going to lose it when he extends next year.

You cannot win in the NHL without a veteran d corps. It's laughable to thing this team won't regress if Carrier is your only D man older than 25.

He is so valuable to this team especially now that he is becoming a defensive D first. Best PK and match up D on the team this year. If Guhle could play a whole season, we can start cutting down Matheson minutes, that being said you would still need veteran presence on the d corp.

Guhle-Hutson
Matheson-Carrier
Xhehaj/Struble - Reinbacher
Yeah, I’ve seen too many lineups posted here where Xhekaj was the oldest of the group (pre carrier trade). It’s not happening.
 
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I would look to package our two first together and move up and draft a Desnoyers or Frondell type.

Next I would sign a #2 center. If we can't have to trade for one but try UFA first. It's imperative we get right center, this team could be scary. With the Russian coming over next season. Montreal would have two great offensive lines.

To go with the character we have in bottom 6. In Anderson, Gallagher, Evans. It would make a dynamic forward group.

Hutson playing well on right side. Hutson, Reinbacher and Carrier on right side. Makes Guhle, Matheson and Wifi on left side. Struble the 7th guy and Engstrom maturing in Laval. That's a good defense.

In '26 Carey Price contract off the books, cap going up and Dach, Laine and Matheson likely moving on be around 30 million to spend. Habs could do some serious damage summer of '26.
No doubt that I would package our two 1sts to grab Frondell, but I dont think thats being realistic TBH, I have Frondell in the top tier with Shaefer and Misa. Moving up to grab Desnoyers seems more realistic, but I see him a tier or 2 below in term of talent and impact. Also, moving up in the top 10 is uncommon, it rarely happens.

As for signing a UFA, it doesnt seem to be part of the plan for KH, he doesnt want to be stuck with term and salaries.
 
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please hugo, do not trade guhle or reinbacher! i'd rather give dach one more chance at 2c than trade one of those two. defence wins championships! we have more than enough resources to acquire a 2c without destroying potentially dominant d corps. trade hage, beck, kapanen, every first you want, give sam bennett 9m, i don't care.
You wouldn’t trade a D3 for a 2C? Looks like Hutson will be on the top pairing.

A core of either :
1C, D1, D2, D3
Or:
1C, 2C, D1, D2
 
Primeau’s drawback is exactly Fowler’s strength - the mental game. Primeau gives up a bad or early goal and it’s over, he’s rattled for the rest of the game. Fowler doesn’t have that.

And Montembeault is a great example of why we should keep Fowler. He’s an average goalie with a clear ceiling. He’s not a workhorse.
And Primeau did not look as good as Fowler, If he did he wouldn't have gone in the 7th round.
 

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