Ottawa Senators receiving bids for more than 900 million USD (1.24 billion CDN)

[Random Comment]

Is the arena thing a little overblown?

The drive from Ottawa to Kanata is similar to like, a drive from Terwilleger to downtown in Edmonton and I can almost guarantee the majority of the fans that watch the Oilers commute 30 minutes + to watch the games.

If I was in Ottawa I would have no issues driving to Kanata for a game.

No it’s like going to Sherwood park - or at least it feels like that. It sucks.

Lebreton Flats is going to be a game changer if they can develop it properly. It can be one of the premier entertainment spots in Canada, in terms of its location and what it could have to offer. That’s why this deal could reach 1 bil.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Is the arena thing a little overblown?

The drive from Ottawa to Kanata is similar to like, a drive from Terwilleger to downtown in Edmonton and I can almost guarantee the majority of the fans that watch the Oilers commute 30 minutes + to watch the games.

If I was in Ottawa I would have no issues driving to Kanata for a game.

Not at all , it’s a bitch driving out 40 minutes with traffic to the middle of nowhere then factor in bad weather and the drive back it puts you off from wanting to go. Not to mention walk in ticket sales are basically non-existent as a result.

I was in New York to watch the sens game and the vibe was wild it was sold out on a Thursday night and it was wild that the rink was a 15 minute WALK from my hotel. Everyone could comfortable get drunk and wild knowing they likey don’t have to drive back because of the Subway system or they live in walking distance.

This is what I hope for with a downtown sens arena.

 

[Lady Stanley]

I mean, one of the issues with the Ottawa market is that it's a government town (the largest employer) and the corporate support isn't there. That same issue exists in Quebec City, just with a metro population that's barely half of Ottawa's.

An Ottawa Senators franchise with a downtown arena is definitely more valuable than one in Quebec City.

A) No doubt the Sens could be a top 15 team in the league potentially ahead of Calgary and Edmonton.

B) You're not there yet and still don't have an arena.

C) You still have a much harder time getting fans from the other teams. For starters what never gets mentioned is that a quarter of the metro is in Quebec, and they happen to give a lot of support to their Q team. Few people outside of Ottawa look to Ottawa as their team. Atlantic Canada is a massive proportion of your anglo audience and no one there cares about the sens, it's like it doesn't even crack the top 5.

I have total faith this is gonna change around pretty fast. But you know you're in trouble when the prime minister who resides in the city roots for the habs.

The nordiques would have an overnight fandom and an arena ready to go.

In fact I'd wager a good bit of cash a lot of sens fans are nordiques fans who only root for the team because they hate the habs.

 

[Golden_Jet]

A) No doubt the Sens could be a top 15 team in the league potentially ahead of Calgary and Edmonton.

B) You're not there yet and still don't have an arena.

C) You still have a much harder time getting fans from the other teams. For starters what never gets mentioned is that a quarter of the metro is in Quebec, and they happen to give a lot of support to their Q team. Few people outside of Ottawa look to Ottawa as their team. Atlantic Canada is a massive proportion of your anglo audience and no one there cares about the sens, it's like it doesn't even crack the top 5.

I have total faith this is gonna change around pretty fast. But you know you're in trouble when the prime minister who resides in the city roots for the habs.

The nordiques would have an overnight fandom and an arena ready to go.

In fact I'd wager a good bit of cash a lot of sens fans are nordiques fans who only root for the team because they hate the habs.

So much wrong in this post, lol . Wouldn’t know where to start.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

The Sens have nothing more than a plot of empty land where an arena *might* go. No agreements in place, and not a single shovel has touched the dirt. Meanwhile, the entire franchise is literally for sale to the highest bidder.

No idea where this bloated confidence about this being a done deal comes from.

 

[Lady Stanley]

So much wrong in this post, lol . Wouldn’t know where to start.

curious about what parts exactly?

 

[Golden_Jet]

The Sens have nothing more than a plot of empty land where an arena *might* go. No agreements in place, and not a single shovel has touched the dirt. Meanwhile, the entire franchise is literally for sale to the highest bidder.

No idea where this bloated confidence about this being a done deal comes from.

Lmao dude, wait until there’s a new owner, you don’t put shovels in the ground until a sale happens.
Need to better with your constant trolls.
Confidence might come from 9 bids lol.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Lmao dude, wait until there’s a new owner, you don’t put shovels in the ground until a sale happens.
Need to better with your constant trolls.
Confidence might come from 9 bids lol.

Why is it impossible that >0 of those bids are from someone wanting to move the franchise away from a market that is constantly bottom 5 in the league in attendance numbers?

 

[inthewings]

Their value is probably valued higher because it’s in Ontario.

A lot of hockey fans already in the area, and a ton of Leafs fans in Ottawa who take over when the Leafs are in town.

They’re probably hoping to create a competitive team and take over that fanbase. It could happen with the new generation, and lots of Leafs fans are glad to drive to Ottawa for cheap tickets, although I don’t know if tickets are still going to be super cheap (relative to Toronto) if it sells for 900M+.

Ottawa tickets are really cheap currently, bottom 5 in the league and the cheapest in Canada while being near the market with the most expensive, so it has huge potential if you can convert some of those fans.

I'm sorry, but the two games Toronto plays in Ottawa every year is not moving the needling on the team's valuation. Christ almighty.

 

[Golden_Jet]

curious about what parts exactly?

If I get time to type an essay, I will respond.

you lost any credibility with your thread on the mains,

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Thrashers team sold then moved to Winnipeg.

Whalers sold then relocated to Carolina 2 seasons later.

Jets sold and moved to Phoenix.

But no, this NEVER happens! There's a 0% chance this could happen to the Senators!!

 

[Lady Stanley]

If I get time to type an essay, I will respond.

you lost any credibility with your thread on the mains,

Did you even read what I said, or are you just going for the no look pass?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Did you even read what I said, or are you just going for the no look pass?

Yes there are at least 5 or 6 things inaccurate, like I said you have ZERO credibility now, with your thread, that is being laughed at by every poster.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Thrashers team sold then moved to Winnipeg.

Whalers sold then relocated to Carolina 2 seasons later.

Jets sold and moved to Phoenix.

But no, this NEVER happens! There's a 0% chance this could happen to the Senators!!

I mean, if you look at the bidders that are rumored to be front-runners, there is a zero chance.

These groups are looking at this as a real estate deal with the Senators being the tenant for the development's anchor attraction. They're not looking at this as buying a hockey team.

 

[Lady Stanley]

Yes there are at least 5 or 6 things inaccurate, like I said you have ZERO credibility now, with your thread, that is being laughed at by every poster.

Considering 90% of those things just rambled like childish idiots, I'm not hyper bothered.

Those that took the time to have the conversation were mostly reasonable about the topic.

Again you think you're part of the group but the people in your group are saying drastically different things.

The breakdown of thread came down to one point. You don't have to agree on.

Cup chasers make it unfair we should stop that.

The rest of the people in the thread weren't interested in the conversation they were too busy patting themselves on the back for nothing.

Can you show any evidence Ottawa is in the top 5 fandoms for Atlantic Canada? Do that one first.

Then follow it up with the bit about the ready to go downtown arena.


You just look like an ignorant person when you just group everything together like it's all the same. It says a lot about how you "choose" to process information.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

What an enormous amount of money for the 2nd favorite hockey team in Ottawa.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

I mean, if you look at the bidders that are rumored to be front-runners, there is a zero chance.

These groups are looking at this as a real estate deal with the Senators being the tenant for the development's anchor attraction. They're not looking at this as buying a hockey team.

This could definitely be true but how is it OK to just completely ignore the recent history of actual franchise sales? To think that there is zero chance they could purchased and relocated is just delusional.

 

[Sun God Nika]

curious about what parts exactly?

I don’t know a single sens fan that is a Nordic fan. Downtown arena while not guaranteed is happening it’s going to be a condition of owning the team to get it done and it just makes financial sense for a new owner. The rink in Kanata is closing in on its end of life.

Ottawa has a growing population and is selling out half their games in a rink in Kanata . Now give them a rink with 2k less seats in the heart of the city there will be sell outs all year

 

[Lady Stanley]

I don’t know a single sens fan that is a Nordic fan.

In Ottawa or as part of the massive RDS audience?

Downtown arena while not guaranteed is happening it’s going to be a condition of owning the team to get it done and it just makes financial sense for a new owner. The rink in Kanata is closing in on its end of life.

When did I contradict that?, as I said I think Ottawa is about to become a very big deal.

Ottawa has a growing population and is selling out half their games in a rink in Kanata . Now give them a rink with 2k less seats in the heart of the city there will be sell outs all year

You did see the part where I said I think Ottawa could be in the top 15 in the league?

My point was that the team isn't there yet. And is currently comparable to what Quebec could be if they got a franchise.

They have minor market penetration in Atlantic Canada, they have trouble filling the current arena, and they haven't had the time to establish a larger fandom.

That's probably all about to change. Ottawa could easily be Canada's 3rd team if McDavid leaves Edmonton.

 

[ItWasJustified]

I don't imagine any major Canadian city can be counted as a ''small market'' when it comes to hockey, given the right circumstances i.e. good arena location. I hope the new Senators ownership is a economic success and that the NHL will look at that and give back the Nordiques to Quebec City sooner rather than later.

 

[Akrapovince]

No it’s like going to Sherwood park - or at least it feels like that. It sucks.

Lebreton Flats is going to be a game changer if they can develop it properly. It can be one of the premier entertainment spots in Canada, in terms of its location and what it could have to offer. That’s why this deal could reach 1 bil.

I guess another thing is that Edmonton’s light rail system pretty much drops them off at the game from anywhere in under 30 any direction.

 

[MadLuke]

I imagine here that if someone offer to pay $90 millions for 10% of the team it is valuing it to $900millions, not that group proposed actual over $900 millions of USD cash money to acquire it ?

That price seem to be in pre interest rise money. Swiss banks will give you over 55 millions a year in short term placement at 0 risk.

 

[Golden_Jet]

This could definitely be true but how is it OK to just completely ignore the recent history of actual franchise sales? To think that there is zero chance they could purchased and relocated is just delusional.

Other than the condition on the sale is , has to stay in Ottawa.

 

[Golden_Jet]

. Atlantic Canada is a massive proportion of your anglo audience and no one there cares about the sens, it's like it doesn't even crack the top 5.

Wrong show your proof , other than pulling a number out of your hat

But you know you're in trouble when the prime minister who resides in the city roots for the habs.

PM is from Montreal. Who cares who he cheers for lol.

The nordiques would have an overnight fandom and an arena ready to go.

So, Sens are playing in a perfectly fine arena. Just LRT doesn’t get there yet.

In fact I'd wager a good bit of cash a lot of sens fans are nordiques fans who only root for the team because they hate the habs.

Made up BS, without proof , pulled that out of your ars. You absolutely ZERO knowledge on that.

Considering 90% of those things just rambled like childish idiots, I'm not hyper bothered.

Those that took the time to have the conversation were mostly reasonable about the topic.

Again you think you're part of the group but the people in your group are saying drastically different things.

The breakdown of thread came down to one point. You don't have to agree on.

Cup chasers make it unfair we should stop that.

The rest of the people in the thread weren't interested in the conversation they were too busy patting themselves on the back for nothing.

Can you show any evidence Ottawa is in the top 5 fandoms for Atlantic Canada? Do that one first.

Then follow it up with the bit about the ready to go downtown arena.


You just look like an ignorant person when you just group everything together like it's all the same. It says a lot about how you "choose" to process information.

100% of the comments laughed at your proposal and called it stupid.

ONE poster called it interesting, but would never get into the CBA, so you were on an Island with Willis.

 

[Masked]

What an enormous amount of money for the 2nd favorite hockey team in Ottawa.

Well, no one can buy Team Canada so they have to settle for a very close second favourite team.

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