DuckedUpOnQuack
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Very true, I guess I was romanticizing the idea of playoff parties on the river and forgot about the majority of the winter. Interesting about boating though, as a non-boater I'd never heard that.
News Article: Ottawa Senators Organization Actively Considering Building Arena At Lebreton Flats
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Very true, I guess I was romanticizing the idea of playoff parties on the river and forgot about the majority of the winter. Interesting about boating though, as a non-boater I'd never heard that.
Yeah, TD place has shown that you must offer one parking spot per ticket if you want to put on an event.
Lebreton will be on the East-West LRT corridor, and one station over from the Greenboro line, which gets you to the vast parking lot that is Carleton University and the (small) park and ride at Greenboro. It doesn't get much better in terms of mass transit.
TD place has shown that if people want to be entertained, they will adapt to the reality of being entertained in a city.
TD place has shown that if people want to be entertained, they will adapt to the reality of being entertained in a city.
Dick Whitman
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Boats do pass through the locks on the Canal but I believe that they can only go east as directly west are rapids and it's fairly shallow.
I'm not a boater either though and could be wrong. I just work downtown and I can't remember ever seeing any boats pass behind parliament or around the Lebreton area.
The Lewler
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I'm willing to place my bet that this won't go any further.. although I could be wrong.
The Euge has given us no indication, actually he's given us every indication, that he does not have anything close to the pockets needed to push a massive new development forward without subsidization from the taxpayer.
Now if he happens to bring in a legitimate partner into the picture.. then all bets are off.
The Euge has given us no indication, actually he's given us every indication, that he does not have anything close to the pockets needed to push a massive new development forward without subsidization from the taxpayer.
Now if he happens to bring in a legitimate partner into the picture.. then all bets are off.
I know it's not going to happen. But man would I be stoked to leave work, walk over, pound a few and take in the game.
I live in the West end and share season tickets. It's just too hard/long to get there and back on that many weeknights. If there was a centrally located rink I'd be at all 41. No doubt.
I live in the West end and share season tickets. It's just too hard/long to get there and back on that many weeknights. If there was a centrally located rink I'd be at all 41. No doubt.
The Lewler
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I'm not convinced it would be any easier to get there.
It might be a shorter commute time for some in the east end, but 'easier' ? I doubt it.
It might be a shorter commute time for some in the east end, but 'easier' ? I doubt it.
When you look at the maps of season ticket holders there's almost none in the East end of the city. You see the Flex packs there, but nobody can justify that kind of commute time. Anythign more central would open up almost 1/2 the city's population (incl. Gatineau).
As it stands, I leave work, drive past home, sit in traffic out to to Kanata, walk to the rink, then reverse it home. It automatically drops.
By definition there would be people approaching the rink from various directions, as opposed to now when it's everyone in one way, then everyone out.
Alf Silfversson
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ChocolateLeclaire
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A downtown arena would be fantastic. If we actually had any semblance of an effective mass transit system serving it.
The arenas in downtown Toronto and Montreal work because there are subway lines that run direct to it from all posts in the city. Our bus system sucks.
The arenas in downtown Toronto and Montreal work because there are subway lines that run direct to it from all posts in the city. Our bus system sucks.
Yeah, but at least you feel like you actually got somewhere (Ottawa) in that time... nothing like sitting on a bus and then getting off in.. Kanata.
Buck Aki Berg
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Ottawa is going to face some seriously tough, unpopular choices in the next 10-20-30 years as the city continues to grow. They've held off so far, but I think you're going to see houses expropriated and bulldozed to make room for wider roads. The unwillingness to do that is what turned King Edward into an automobile slum (not to suggest that an expressway would be better), and we're seeing the same thing occur with Booth and Bronson, and other north-south streets like Woodroffe, Pinecrest, and Kirkwood.
The good news is that, unlike other cities that just indiscriminately leveled neighbourhoods in the pre-freeway-revolt days, Ottawa has the opportunity to transform its city in a way that incorporates new urbanism - making way for the automobile without sacrificing the neighbourhood and the pedestrian realm entirely. They can use a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer, and I think it'll be fascinating to watch it all unfold.
No, he's absolutely right.. it is embarrassing to have a professional arena so oddly located. You want to liven up downtown Ottawa and give this city a reputation as one that can be a great site for major league sports, then take this opportunity. I understand that times/circumstances were different ands we had to put it in Kanata, but now if there's an opportunity to have an arena downtown, they should be all over it. People may complain about traffic and getting there but it was a nightmare at times leaving and going to Kanata as well. Close to an hour each way getting there. Sucks for people who live in Kanata but deal with it..the rest of us did for over 20 years. Imagine if the Sens win the Cup? How great would it be with everyone celebrating in the downtown area as a result? It was just so odd right now. You would have people celebrating downtown and people celebrating in the middle of a field in suburban Ottawa.
I honestly can't think of another team in the league who has an arena thats as poorly located as the one that we do
Huge potential with the Domtar lands development too. You have thousands of new residents within a few hundred meters, some of which will be ticket buyers, many of which will want access to retail and entertainment. It's really a nice opportunity to create something akin to Foxboro or what the Oilers are doing with Rogers arena
I think outside of a few folks the vast vast majority agree that a downtonw stadium is the best for both the organization and city itself, the real chore will be getting through all the various levels of politicians with their hands out....errr looking out for the best interest of themselves, errr the people!
aragorn
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I take a bus to REDBLACK games at Lansdown park downtown & I go to a restaurant that has free bus service to Senator games & I never have to deal with the traffic. I know that would be an added cost that some can't afford but for the price of a couple of beers (which is cheaper than at CTC) it's the best way to avoid the traffic headaches.
I will concede that the demographics of ticket holders will probably shift somewhat.
My guess is that the proportion of suburban families with young kids goes down, and is replaced with an increase in upper-middle class urbanites.
I see that shift as a function of geography and price.
My guess is that the proportion of suburban families with young kids goes down, and is replaced with an increase in upper-middle class urbanites.
I see that shift as a function of geography and price.
Micklebot
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And you ignored that there will be a need for a new arena eventually, he can sell the current land to offset the cost, the value of his assest increase with an arena downtown, the potential for other investors...
It's also intersting that the detractors equate strong community support with the government paying for the area. I'm not sure that's what was meant (though it would certainly help). Community support can mean fans expressing the desire to have this happen, the city ensuring infrastructure accomodates the new development, zoning is adapted to better suit the proposed plan, ect.
Making this a 'federal issue' is also helpful IMO. As bad as the GoC can be in terms of risk taking and visioning, the City and Province are way worse.
I think that Baird and Harper have the gonads to actually see something like this through.
I think that Baird and Harper have the gonads to actually see something like this through.
we can all deal with it. The CTC's location right now is the equivalent of having the ACC in Brampton. It makes literally no logical sense why it is where it is
jbeck5
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There's a reason they don't stay in kanata after games.
There's a reason they would stay downtown after games.
Its fairly obvious and if you can't see it, we can't help you.
LOL....also, like the NCC would say "build a rink, but no more. Just the rink."
Come on. Imagine if you could step out a have 5-6 options within 200 meters for a late dinner or drinks, or being able to go shopping pre-game if you have an hour to kill.
People will linger in the Flats, people want to off themselves in ****tsville.
