InTheValley
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I agree. They now have 15 total picks, 7 in the first 5 rounds for this draft.Good pick trades today. Solid returns and management of assets.
I agree. They now have 15 total picks, 7 in the first 5 rounds for this draft.Good pick trades today. Solid returns and management of assets.
I agree. They now have 15 total picks, 7 in the first 5 rounds for this draft.
Oliver True
Kasper Simontaival
Kimi Körbler
Since 2014 these are the only 2nd round picks we have made
Does anyone remember them of course besides OMG67 and his son kimi
My point that we need to consider is that if the 67's and I think it is the sme for mo9st teams do not find players in the second round then the addition of a 3rd pick seems even more remote.Simontaival would have been a good one had Covid not gotten in the way. He was an important Finn player at the WJHC. Not sure if he’d have reported though.
The point really is that if you draft 17 year olds, then they have a three year cycle. You can use your 1st round pick every year to replace the graduating Import. You’ll always have a 17, 18, and 19 year old. Just gotta find a way to keep them and hope they don’t leave early. If so, you have to rejig the cycle. No biggie.My point that we need to consider is that if the 67's and I think it is the sme for mo9st teams do not find players in the second round then the addition of a 3rd pick seems even more remote.
However allowing teams to have 3 Import players will aid the Have teams. Someone like London or Kitchener can trade for players and have more impact.
The actual draft means little it is the 3rd open slot.
But really, how many 2nd rund picks are great players? We then get to your argument that you have a player with little ability taking a spot that a Canadian kid could play.The point really is that if you draft 17 year olds, then they have a three year cycle. You can use your 1st round pick every year to replace the graduating Import. You’ll always have a 17, 18, and 19 year old. Just gotta find a way to keep them and hope they don’t leave early. If so, you have to rejig the cycle. No biggie.
But really, how many 2nd rund picks are great players? We then get to your argument that you have a player with little ability taking a spot that a Canadian kid could play.
You made my point thank you.LOL. Who cares about the 2nd round if you never pick in the 2nd round? That’s the point.
2025 - 1st round pick 17 year old
2026 - 1st round pick 17 year old
2027 - 1st round pick 17 year old
In 2025 you have the 17 year old
In 2026 you have the 2025 pick (18 year old) and the 2026 1st pick (17 year old)
In 2027 you have the 2025 pick (19 year old), the 2026 pick (18 year old), and the 2027 1st pick (17 year old)
In 2028, the 2025 pick graduates and you pick another Import in the 1st round…and so on, and so on, and so on…..
I don’t even see a need for a 3rd round. If you are going into the Import draft with no returning Imports, you deserve what you get the next year!
You made my point thank you.
It is not the 3 round picks at all that teams are looking for but it is a disguise to allow teams tohave 3 Import players.
That is what I have said all along.
Hell almost no one picks ineh 2nd round and no one would pick in the 3rd round unless they had hidden a player
The thing is, if they say they are going to allow teams to have 3 imports and leave it like that, then Canadian parents of players will get upset.
BUt that is exactly what they want.
The Missiauga version of Larry Curly and Moe has to justify itself because I think all 3 have contracts ending. Not sure about Jan he signed a multi-year in 2023Well looking forward to the draft. Hopefully we hit a home run, we need it. I also think Boyd/Egert need it after a lackluster trade deadline. We also need a good summer recruitment wise, we need to finally make noise with a few high level ncaa/ american kids commits to show Ottawa is a destination. With the new rules there is no excuse imo.If we don't manage to do that keeping DC was a big mistake.
The Missiauga version of Larry Curly and Moe has to justify itself because I think all 3 have contracts ending. Not sure about Jan he signed a multi-year in 2023
I hope that they have a great day today. The players come out of this singing about how much they want to be in the NCC and the top 3 sign offer sheets quickly. That will go a long way to making fans and me happier.
As to NCAA commits, I am going to wait and see. Vandenberg would be the big test. If Boyd is going to sign anyone, it would be him.
I agreeI really feel Vandenberg is the big test as well. I cannot see a scenario where playing in Cedar Rapids is preferable over playing at home in Ottawa. Cedar Rapids is in the middle of nowhere Iowa. It isn’t a great team. The team doesn’t score much. The team had seven ‘05s and thirteen ‘06s so it is not like they had a young team.
If the 67’s are unable to pull in Vandenberg, a local boy, then I’m not sure what to say. That should be the low hanging fruit signing for the NCAA recruits.
The reality is this offseason is a good test to see where they truly sit within the league. If a bunch of team sign a bunch of quality NCAA recruit’s and Ottawa is unable to get anyone then I think we have our answer. And, vice-versa. If we sign a few of them and move forward better positioned, we also have an answer. It iwll be an interesting summer. I am looking forward to getting some answers and having a lot of the speculation that has been swirling around be supported one way or the other by the answers this summer will provide.
I agree
There are a couple of reasons that he would play in CR. The first is that he will get ice time on a team that has room and is actually in the playoffs in their league. Also, he will possibly get a chance to develop his offense.
The other side of the coin is that if he stays here, he will be at home playing in the OHL on a team that may or may not make the playoffs and more importantly, he may not get the same amount of ice time. He is a left shot, and if he is not a center, then he falls into that quagmire at LW.
All the pros about playing here are great and the Cons can be rectified I think but are going to be difficult depending on how the family has observed last year under the CR coach vs DC in Ottawa.
Again, as I said, the deal is that Larry and Curly are going to have to sell the team, and Moe is going to really have to do a lot of dancing.
I agree, but in CR, the ice time is guaranteed;; that is the difference. Remember he is not set on the NHL but is looking at ProvidenceThey have 13 ‘06s that should return this year unless some of them play NCAA. They have another 5 ‘07s. That is 18 players older than he is that should be ahead of him on the development scale. So, it is not like there is a lot of room when you consider he is younger as an ‘08. So I don’t think his ice time is guaranteed. At best, he earns it based on his capability. So, nothing will be handed to him.
I’m not sure you're fully familiar with the style of play in the USHL. Ice time isn’t typically guaranteed at that level either. If a player is looking for guaranteed minutes, something like Nepean Jr A might be a more realistic option.I agree
There are a couple of reasons that he would play in CR. The first is that he will get ice time on a team that has room and is actually in the playoffs in their league. Also, he will possibly get a chance to develop his offense.
The other side of the coin is that if he stays here, he will be at home playing in the OHL on a team that may or may not make the playoffs and more importantly, he may not get the same amount of ice time. He is a left shot, and if he is not a center, then he falls into that quagmire at LW.
All the pros about playing here are great and the Cons can be rectified I think but are going to be difficult depending on how the family has observed last year under the CR coach vs DC in Ottawa.
Again, as I said, the deal is that Larry and Curly are going to have to sell the team, and Moe is going to really have to do a lot of dancing.
I agree, but in CR, the ice time is guaranteed;; that is the difference. Remember he is not set on the NHL but is looking at Providence
If you take a look at the USHL, though, it has a system where you grow and play. My point is this and it has nothing to do with the draft I am actually hoping for them to draft 2 centers or an RH forward and center.I’m not sure you're fully familiar with the style of play in the USHL. Ice time isn’t typically guaranteed at that level either. If a player is looking for guaranteed minutes, something like Nepean Jr A might be a more realistic option.
There hasn’t been a single 100-point player in the USHL, even when stats are pro-rated over a 68-game season. So, when people refer to players like Giacomo Martino and Will Zellers as 60–70 point guys, I think that needs context. While I don’t have proof, I believe those players would likely be closer to 100-point producers in the OHL—comparable to someone like Patrick Thomas in Brantford. The OHL consistently sees 10–15 players hit that mark each season. For example, Lardis has more goals than the USHL's top scorer has total points. That might tell you something about where the more offensively open style of play exists.
I hope those making the decisions this weekend - whether it's Larry, Curly, or Moe—consider a broader perspective than yours. That said, you are entitled to your own opinion, and this is just mine.
If you take a look at the USHL, though, it has a system where you grow and play. My point is this and it has nothing to do with the draft I am actually hoping for them to draft 2 centers or an RH forward and center.
My point was tht Vandenberg has choices. He can play on a team that he is going to get ice time with or come to Ottawa and maybe get reasonable minutes.
My wishlist for the next two days
Round one: a true center with size and skill
Round two: right wing with size that can score
Round three: a) d-man that can be ready in 26/27
b) a developmental center
Round 4: a) goalie that can come in as the bug
b) forward with size
Aside from that I don't want much more as I'm not very demanding.
Although I don't disagree with you I do feel we need to build up our forward group. The player you mentioned is likely good but this year I'm not as informed on the draft. I use to rely a lot on hockey prospects but they've pared down their O coverage so I am a bit blind this year.The D-Men aren’t in heavy supply at the top end so we will likley see a run on them early in the 2nd round. If we can still get that 1st tier of D-Man in the 2nd round at our pick, I think we have to nab one of them. If we wait until the 3rd round, we will likely have lost that opportunity to pick in that first tier. I am hoping David Buchman from the OVT is available at our 2nd pick. He likely will not be available but if he is, he’s the guy I have circled for the 2nd round.
Although I don't disagree with you I do feel we need to build up our forward group. The player you mentioned is likely good but this year I'm not as informed on the draft. I use to rely a lot on hockey prospects but they've pared down their O coverage so I am a bit blind this year.