Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

[analyser]

I think it is too early to make that assessment. We have the Priority Selection, Import Draft, NCAA recruiting, and potentially a new coaching staff of sorts. I think there is a lot of room for improvement.

I think this needs to be reassessed around Aug 1. I think we will have a better sense of what we will have to work with by then.

The issue is they want you to renew your STH before March 31st without really seeing what may transpire concerning the possibilities you have mentioned. DC still around and I do not see a whole lot of improvement.

 

[beastintheeast]

I forgot about Uronen. I wonder if anyone mentioned anything about that in the offseason last year?

Before you say that Boyd shipped him, the question that is still unknown is what the situation would have been for a line to play on as well as a team.

Kingston has centers that can play center as well as some other good players to take the heat off.

Also, don't discount the difference in coaches. Mann would want him to score and keep him. If Uronen had the year he is having, Boyd would have traded him unless DC decided to put him on the second line and have him work on his defence.

I would like to see someone trade for Korbler, like Niagara, and see how he does with a different coach and system.

I spent today's game trying to figure out which team was more disinterested, the 67s or the referees. The zebras completely blew the call on Stonehouse launching himself into Ekberg and then, of course, who scores the tying goal?

DC never saw a good time to call a timeout. 1.4 seconds left, faceoff in the Petes end. Pull the goalie and give it a go. It rarely ever works, but, geez man, every Minor Hockey coach imaginable would do that. This team is uninspired and unprepared. His shootout selections were, as usual, baffling.

I'm glad the STH renewal period is in full swing.

Sounds like a WJC coach I read about.

If I was in Ottawa I would be waiting to renew my STH first to see what the team has and also because there is little chance someone is going to buy them LOL

I still think that the best thing that could happen is for DC to announce that he has decided to retire after this year. I know many here think I am wrong, but I still believe that if DC is the coach going into the draft and after, a few of the agents will ask Boyd to pass on their players. The top 10 drafted, especially, all have NHL in their eyes, and so far, DC has not developed a single NHL star or top-round pick.

Goal-scoring, offensive-minded kids are not going to want to come here and sit on the bench.

You talk about NCAA players turning delaying. Why would you ifyou canstart youre education ans play learning a NCAA system or play on the sad sack 67's

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[44 95 plus tax]

I'm glad the STH renewal period is in full swing.

I think they are going to have a hard time with renewals. In talking with people around me yesterday, I know of 6 STH (me being one) that have voiced concerns to their account rep about the direction of the team going forward. All have said coaching and GM are their biggest concerns. I really think once the 67s are eliminated, brass is going to have to come out and talk with STHs.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

15 skaters today. Either massive mismanagement of the GM or full tank?

 

[mianjo]

67's down 1-0 at 16:01

1-1
Goal
#20 Luca Pinelli (33) scores. Assists: #34 Filip Ekberg
1st 16:52

2-1
Goal
#18 Jack Dever (8) scores. Assists: #5 Bradley Horner, #22 Matthew Mayich
1st 17:19

2-1 after 1

 

[OMG67]

I think they are going to have a hard time with renewals. In talking with people around me yesterday, I know of 6 STH (me being one) that have voiced concerns to their account rep about the direction of the team going forward. All have said coaching and GM are their biggest concerns. I really think once the 67s are eliminated, brass is going to have to come out and talk with STHs.

Not being able to trade Pinelli is the biggest issue. It sent the wrong message.

Had they been able to trade Pinelli, they’d have been able to communicate that this is a rebuilding year and they’d then be able to focus on the future. Had they been able to make a deal with Barrie for Vaughn, they’d could have put all their efforts behind hyping him. The fans would feel that sense of future on the horizon.

Their inability to get an impact player for Mews coupled with Pinelli untraded has created a scenario where the team looks like it his no direction and no future. Now, their only silver lining is linked to making the playoffs. From a PR perspective, keeping Pinelli and missing the playoff is a horrible result for the management. It really is a nail in the coffin for them from my perspective. You cannot overlook that.

Amidovski hasn’t made an impact yet either. I think he will take a step forward next year and things will be ok with him but his current level of production isn’t helping.

The Dave Cameron WJHC issue with Team Canada is a horrible distraction behind the scenes.

Another negative has been their inability to sign a top flight NCAA commit. They have signed a few of the mid to late round draft picks. They aren’t what we would call impact but, they do have a bunch of ‘07s signed and on roster. Unfortunately, none of them have provided any sort of consistent production. I do like a few of them and they are serviceable so hopefully a couple can come in next year and make a true impact. I think Kingwell could be one that has a shot at being a real player.

All that said, they do have some depth of bodies, especially in that ‘07 group. I don’t think things are quite as bad as they seem. They do need to find an elite centre. There is no way around it. It is a key element. That player doesn’t’ need to produce at an elite level next year but they do need a t least one young one that they can build around. If they can go out and find one, they can potentially salvage something.

 

[mianjo]

2-2 in 2nd

 

[Vector Calculus]

Well, that’s likely it. Shorthanded all year, PK a disaster, not good enough when it mattered, and not able to make moves to build for the future. As mentioned the combination of not trading Pinelli and then missing the playoffs is a worst of all worlds combination. This team was short on skill, and a top-2 draft position would make all the difference this spring…but if we finish 17th we only have a 10% chance in the lottery. It doesn’t look like we can finish lower than 18th.

 

[beastintheeast]

Not being able to trade Pinelli is the biggest issue. It sent the wrong message.

Had they been able to trade Pinelli, they’d have been able to communicate that this is a rebuilding year and they’d then be able to focus on the future. Had they been able to make a deal with Barrie for Vaughn, they’d could have put all their efforts behind hyping him. The fans would feel that sense of future on the horizon.

Their inability to get an impact player for Mews coupled with Pinelli untraded has created a scenario where the team looks like it his no direction and no future. Now, their only silver lining is linked to making the playoffs. From a PR perspective, keeping Pinelli and missing the playoff is a horrible result for the management. It really is a nail in the coffin for them from my perspective. You cannot overlook that.

Amidovski hasn’t made an impact yet either. I think he will take a step forward next year and things will be ok with him but his current level of production isn’t helping.

The Dave Cameron WJHC issue with Team Canada is a horrible distraction behind the scenes.

Another negative has been their inability to sign a top flight NCAA commit. They have signed a few of the mid to late round draft picks. They aren’t what we would call impact but, they do have a bunch of ‘07s signed and on roster. Unfortunately, none of them have provided any sort of consistent production. I do like a few of them and they are serviceable so hopefully a couple can come in next year and make a true impact. I think Kingwell could be one that has a shot at being a real player.

All that said, they do have some depth of bodies, especially in that ‘07 group. I don’t think things are quite as bad as they seem. They do need to find an elite centre. There is no way around it. It is a key element. That player doesn’t’ need to produce at an elite level next year but they do need a t least one young one that they can build around. If they can go out and find one, they can potentially salvage something.

Amidovski and al rookieson this team suffer fromone thing. DC.s inability to coach rookies and develop players,

DC can only coach when he has enough senior players

This game in itself leaves me with questions.

Whitehead is supposed to be a center and has been but did not take 1 faceoff instead they had Varlas foster and Dever.

I think not only are the fans ready to see DC go but there are players and parents that want him out as well probably.

This is a team that should be building lines for the future the young guns should be getting ice time
Ekberg should have been on a first line instead of Korbler.

Trading Pinelli would have allowed the rookies to get more ice time even if they did not get any star players they would have had space.

A player that thinks oence is not going to want to come here.
The WJHC was not just a distraction but it showed ED's inability to coach top plyers with ofence.

The worst case scenario would be DC stays as coach and the 67's draft first over all to have the pick advise that he wants to be traded. That would or should be the end for Boyd and DC as wells the 67s.

I think after the game DC has to announce his retirement or Ottawa has to announce that they are ending his contract.

 

[OMG67]

Well, that’s likely it. Shorthanded all year, PK a disaster, not good enough when it mattered, and not able to make moves to build for the future. As mentioned the combination of not trading Pinelli and then missing the playoffs is a worst of all worlds combination. This team was short on skill, and a top-2 draft position would make all the difference this spring…but if we finish 17th we only have a 10% chance in the lottery. It doesn’t look like we can finish lower than 18th.

20th - 40%
19th - 30%
18th - 20%
17th - 10%

Last year, the final standings were:
20th - Niagara (4th)
19th - Windsor (1st)
18th - Peterborough (3rd)
17th - Sarnia (2nd)

Niagara had the best chances and finished with the 4th pick. Sarnia with a 10% chance ended up with the 2nd pick. Anything can happen.

As of right now, Ottawa will likely end up in the 17th or 18th spot. I highly doubt Guelph or Peterborough catch them. That said, Ottawa has a really tough schedule the rest of the way. It would not surprise me if they ran out the season with no additional points. Guelph has a relatively weak schedule the rest of the way and games in hand. I doubt it will matter but it is something to keep an eye on.

 

[mianjo]

67's lose 5-2

 

[analyser]

I think they are going to have a hard time with renewals. In talking with people around me yesterday, I know of 6 STH (me being one) that have voiced concerns to their account rep about the direction of the team going forward. All have said coaching and GM are their biggest concerns. I really think once the 67s are eliminated, brass is going to have to come out and talk with STHs.

The same thing is happening around me 4 STH are definitely leaving. In addition my wife and I may do the same. I am sure their are many more hesitating with the upcoming renewals.

 

[OMG67]

The same thing is happening around me 4 STH are definitely leaving. In addition my wife and I may do the same. I am sure their are many more hesitating with the upcoming renewals.

Is it because of poor performance this year, expected poor performance next year, or a lack of direction?

 

[Vector Calculus]

Is it because of poor performance this year, expected poor performance next year, or a lack of direction?

Lack of direction for me is the most frustrating. I’ll likely renew anyhow (I am a sucker for junior hockey), but I wish this team had a clear plan and path back to contention. Picturing this team without Pinelli and Mayich next year, no one on the roster seeming primed to start scoring at a high level anytime soon, and questionable asset management are all reasons to doubt that we are on our way anywhere but perennially fighting for 8th.

 

[OMG67]

Lack of direction for me is the most frustrating. I’ll likely renew anyhow (I am a sucker for junior hockey), but I wish this team had a clear plan and path back to contention. Picturing this team without Pinelli and Mayich next year, no one on the roster seeming primed to start scoring at a high level anytime soon, and questionable asset management are all reasons to doubt that we are on our way anywhere but perennially fighting for 8th.

Ekberg - Foster(OA) - Kingwell
Amidovski - Dever(OA) - Kelly
Barlas(OA) - Whitehead - Yanni
Houben - Bowes - Perrier
Souliere

Marrelli - Eshkawkogan
Jackson - Avila
Dietsch - Brady
White - Bonomo

Nelson

They have a lot of bodies. Again, the lack of natural centres is concerning. But, there is always the improvement based on advancing age and experience. So, guys like Ekberg, Kingwell, Amidovski, Whitehead, and Yanni should make more of an impact next year.

Ad an early Import pick, an early Priority Selection pick, and hopefully a good U-18 early pick as well as one NCAA commit, and we could start to look at least like a team on a decent trajectory. Will that team be competitive next year? No. It would probably be around .500 but at least they will have some decent young guys to look forward to.

From a trade asset perspective, only Marrelli would have a deadline impact. But, it isn’t likely they’d move him. I think he lines up as a solid OA prospect so other than maybe thinning out the herd and getting a few mid-round picks, there likely won’t be much in the way of flipping assets next year.

So, overall, I think you are right. But, I am not sold on them being perpetually in 8th. I think next year may be lean, yes. But, I do think there are prospects that could be competitive the following year with the right direction and support added this year.