Ottawa 67s 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

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White signed and used a card afaik; it was announced as a signing and he has been wearing a half visor since his debut, unlike all the others on your affiliate list.

Sounds right. I was not sure what his status was. That likely explains why he was on the roster while not playing for so long.
 
Just FYI for you all, Bulldogs resting a bunch.

No Lardis, Thomas, O'Brien, Hamara, Jiricek, or Leenders.

Similar to Sudbury today in North Bay. No Delic, Villeneuve, Musty, Pharand, McCoy, DeAngelis…starting the backup….
 
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Similar to Sudbury today in North Bay. No Delic, Villeneuve, Musty, Pharand, McCoy, DeAngelis…starting the backup….

It sucks to look forward to live play-off hockey; then when the time comes, Delic is unavailable and Musty will be playing sore if at all. The production of Walton & Pharrand has dropped significantly since Delic was injured.
 
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Looks like a full lineup, for the first time in forever. I assume Amidovski will be scratched after the warmup. Might be the last game for our OAs and several 19 year olds.
 
Ekberg finishing strong. Finishes the season with an 11 game scoring streak. He has 15 points over that stretch and still has the 2nd and 3rd period of this game to tack a few more on. He really started to emerge over the last month. You can see him much more comfortable now than he was through the end of January.
 
Just about everything is going wrong - Ottawa down 6-2, North Bay up 3-0, and Sarnia down 2-1. If these results hold we will miss the playoffs, finish 17th, and have only a 10% chance in the draft lottery.
 
Out with a bit of a whimper (and bad behaviour) which is on point for the year. Miss the playoffs but have the worst draft lottery odds.

On our OAs: Mackenzie never had it come together this year. Mayich was maybe even better than I expected and will be missed on this team. I don’t know what a pro career looks like for him but he has developed well in his final year. Gerrior hit 30 goals on a team that couldn’t score, and I wish him all the best at Maine.

For our 19-year olds, Pinelli is probably done, Foster is probably back, Horner may not even get a camp invite (while versatile, he did seem to be valued around the 15th spot on the roster this year), Barlas is 🤷🏻, Dever seemed to really drop off near the end of the year but will almost certainly be back.

Looking forward to the draft lottery!
 
Goalies like to play and I personally think the 4 man rotation and playing Nelsonall the time hurt Mack. He realixed that he was there only becacue no one wantedhim.

Mayich and Gerrior will go on to CIAU probably. Allt he best to them

Now let's see what the front office has for the fans next week.
 
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The good nes for OSEG is that they now have a feww days with no hockey to look at the line up and the front office and make decisions.

The one wuestion that we3 have not asked is Does DC want to go through a year probably worse than this year considering who is coming back.

Except for Ekberg and possibly Foster there is not a lot of offenceon this team nor is there a lot of size. Having Houben as a center shows the desperation that the team has for the middle.

I am sorry but you can not go into a rebulding year with 3 OA as your top centers.

Question only: What contract is Ekberg under can he decide to stay in Europe next year?
 
The result was predictable after the deadline. 8th or 9th. No surprise.

Some house cleaning required and we will see over the coming weeks how all of that unfolds.

Some silver lining notes:
1> Nelson played fairly well for a 17 year old rookie. I have no issues with him as the starter next year.
2> Ekberg played REALLY well down the stretch. Finished with an 11 game point streak. On a team that struggled to score, that is pretty impressive.
3> Although the defence doesn’t look to be the type to contribute a lot to the offence, they do return a solid core group of players. They won’t be relying on 2025 draft picks to crack the roster.
4> Some decent OA options. Nothing super flashy but Foster and dever are serviceable and versatile with both capable of lining up down the middle on a team that lacks centres.

They have some pieces to work with. I am not too sure theis will be a top 4-5 team next year but I don’t’ think it is a non-playoff team either. With Oshawa and Kingston likely in full rebuild mode at next years deadline, they should have a weak division to contend with. The Petes will be better but they aren’t’ any deeper than Ottawa. Brantford will be the class of the division next year without any real doubt. The Central division will be strong. Both Barrie and Brampton should return capable teams. Same with Niagara.

I don’t think we can truly place a prediction on Ottawa without knowing who’s behind the bench, what players are set to return as OA’s and answers surrounding potential NCAA commits signing with the 67’s. Once we get those answers we should have a better sense of how they fit into that 5th to 8th seed range next year.
 
The result was predictable after the deadline. 8th or 9th. No surprise.

Some house cleaning required and we will see over the coming weeks how all of that unfolds.

Some silver lining notes:
1> Nelson played fairly well for a 17 year old rookie. I have no issues with him as the starter next year.
2> Ekberg played REALLY well down the stretch. Finished with an 11 game point streak. On a team that struggled to score, that is pretty impressive.
3> Although the defence doesn’t look to be the type to contribute a lot to the offence, they do return a solid core group of players. They won’t be relying on 2025 draft picks to crack the roster.
4> Some decent OA options. Nothing super flashy but Foster and dever are serviceable and versatile with both capable of lining up down the middle on a team that lacks centres.

They have some pieces to work with. I am not too sure theis will be a top 4-5 team next year but I don’t’ think it is a non-playoff team either. With Oshawa and Kingston likely in full rebuild mode at next years deadline, they should have a weak division to contend with. The Petes will be better but they aren’t’ any deeper than Ottawa. Brantford will be the class of the division next year without any real doubt. The Central division will be strong. Both Barrie and Brampton should return capable teams. Same with Niagara.

I don’t think we can truly place a prediction on Ottawa without knowing who’s behind the bench, what players are set to return as OA’s and answers surrounding potential NCAA commits signing with the 67’s. Once we get those answers we should have a better sense of how they fit into that 5th to 8th seed range next year.
Nelson is gong o0t need a back up.

Ekberg will depend on if he gets drafted and what the NH Lteam wants. If he is not drafted I think he may decide to either get traded or stay in Europe next year.

At OA I agree if Foster comes back along with Dever there is a possibilty but neither is an OA star.

I disagree about worrying about NCAA commited players.

I think the big question is who comes back who demands a trade and what the off ice situation is going to be.

DC has already snubbed Amidovski and Whitrehead as centers and please donot tell me Houben is a better center than they are.

Kingston Brantford and teh Petes should return with better line ups than us.

The question is going to be what is the plan for the 67's If we are rebuld then I would tnnk that Foster Marelli and possibly Dever will be trade at the deadline.

I agree the big questions need to be answered before the draft. action or in action wil answer all questions.
 
Nelson is gong o0t need a back up.

Ekberg will depend on if he gets drafted and what the NH Lteam wants. If he is not drafted I think he may decide to either get traded or stay in Europe next year.

At OA I agree if Foster comes back along with Dever there is a possibilty but neither is an OA star.

I disagree about worrying about NCAA commited players.

I think the big question is who comes back who demands a trade and what the off ice situation is going to be.

DC has already snubbed Amidovski and Whitrehead as centers and please donot tell me Houben is a better center than they are.

Kingston Brantford and teh Petes should return with better line ups than us.

The question is going to be what is the plan for the 67's If we are rebuld then I would tnnk that Foster Marelli and possibly Dever will be trade at the deadline.

I agree the big questions need to be answered before the draft. action or in action wil answer all questions.

Kingston and Oshawa are selling everything not nailed down. Neither have picks.

Barrie has no picks either but they may be competitive enough to give it one more year before their fire sale.

You have a horrible habit of assuming the absolute worst case scenario happens as if it is fact. It is a terrible way to start a discussion. First, start with the standard practise. And then deviate from there. You will land on the most likely situation more accurately.

Ekberg is not going back to Europe. Is it possible? Yea. Of course. But is it likely? No. If he goes back to Europe, it is game over for him. He finished the season in a big high and I highly doubt he will walk from that.

Foster and Dever are basically OAs or maybe they go NCAA. Neither are pro prospects. NCAA is still waiting next year so giving up now isn’t much of an ideal option.

Who cares about a backup goalie? Dime a dozen.

How about we wait to see what happens with the Bench and the GM seat before we jump to any conclusions? For now, it is best to point to what we have and go from there. If something we have disappears, then we strike that piece off the list. You’ve essentially stated that half the team is going to walk. That is beyond unrealistic.
 
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Kenny Walls said on TSN 1200 this morning that the team may be looking to "upgrade" their OA group going into next year, given how, err, relatively unimpactful some of our 19 year olds are.

Now, Kenny did mention that there was talk of possibly getting rid of overagers in the CHL, but frankly I think that is Kenny letting his personal views cloud his judgment. It is his opinion that 20 year olds have plenty of other options to play and that the CHL should get rid of the OAs, but I haven't heard anyone else express that view. If anything, you could potentially see them expand it, but my guess is that the status quo holds for the foreseeable future on that front.
 
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If Ekberg wants to play in the NHL, he stays here - it's pretty simple. For confirmation, ask Vinny Rohrer how his NHL aspirations are unfolding.
Stay in the CHL yes

You really can not compare Rohrer and Ekberg. the first being that Rohrer was drafted but for some reason wanted to go home to play.

In the cases of Ekberg he is unrated which usually means not drafted.

My comment was that if he is not drafted he may decide to go home. There are other things that he could do and has the opportunity to do. Can you say Uronen.

As to being negative towards the team I feel that I am looking at a team that needs a shake up beind the bench and possibly in the front office.

I don't think all the plaeyrs are going towant out but tome everything depends on the state of the team a player that is coming into the draft year may want out because let's face it DC has not done very good at developing and show casing players.

Kingston may not have a lot of icks but i think Cooper is going to look at this team and leave it alone. They have a good goalie coming in they have some offensive players. I think they buying or selling is going to depend on wher they are in the standings.

Ottawa really has no offence coming back next year and that is going to hurt. Nelson needs a back up but needs to be the number 1 goalie,
 
Stay in the CHL yes

You really can not compare Rohrer and Ekberg. the first being that Rohrer was drafted but for some reason wanted to go home to play.

In the cases of Ekberg he is unrated which usually means not drafted.

My comment was that if he is not drafted he may decide to go home. There are other things that he could do and has the opportunity to do. Can you say Uronen.

As to being negative towards the team I feel that I am looking at a team that needs a shake up beind the bench and possibly in the front office.

I don't think all the plaeyrs are going towant out but tome everything depends on the state of the team a player that is coming into the draft year may want out because let's face it DC has not done very good at developing and show casing players.

Kingston may not have a lot of icks but i think Cooper is going to look at this team and leave it alone. They have a good goalie coming in they have some offensive players. I think they buying or selling is going to depend on wher they are in the standings.

Ottawa really has no offence coming back next year and that is going to hurt. Nelson needs a back up but needs to be the number 1 goalie,

How about you just let things unfold first instead of putting the cart in front of the horse? The sky is not falling. It is not the apocalypse. Ottawa is still a great place to play.

As much as we mock DC and nit-pick about Boyd, the reality is we have mostly been spoiled with quality personnel that most teams would drool over. So let’s keep some perspective on that front.

I think we would all agree (mostly all) that we’d prefer they find a new coach. Some would agree that maybe acquiring a new GM would be ideal as well and the time to do those is now at the start of a rebuild. But, if it doesn’t happen, then we will simply roll with whatever punches comes.

You have an awful habit of taking things to the extreme with assumptions of what will happen. One or two guys made negative decisions so that means everyone else going forward will follow suit. That will not happen. First, for that to even be close to coming to fruition, it means they make no coaching changes. Second, players then would need to assert a high level of influence to force a move. They only have a small handful of players that have value so that means that is the only group where if they were to leave, it would be impactful. For example, if Ekberg wanted to leave, fine. But we will have a top 15 Import pick to replace him. I’d prefer to replace Korbler with that pick but whatever. Second, if Foster and Dever choose not to return as OAs, so be it. Will it hurt? A little. Neither are World beaters. There really isn’t a lot that could happen that would negatively impact this team next year. They are basically starting over. Loads of opportunities for younger players.

The only true negative possibilities their inactions lead to is recruiting new players. Even that is a spotty stance. We don’t know if making a coaching change would make any difference in that regard. It is a rebuilding team so you may have players not want to participate in that. Who knows?

This is why I suggest you should assume all current roster players eligible to return will return. If there is a deviation then so be it. Let things unfold and then discuss the impact etc. don’t just assume that because you don’t like DC that everyone else doesn’t like him and they would be willing to risk blowing up their hockey career trying to escape him.

We can’t really discuss wild hypotheticals. What if Ekberg returns to Europe, and Foster goes NCAA early, and Amodovski sits out to await a trade, and our top 4 pick won’t report , and we cannot recruit any NCAA commits while all the teams around us do? Well, that is a hellova lot of hypotheticals. Deal with them if they happen. Until then, nothing to talk about in that regard.
 
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We will have to accept what is done concerning management. OSEG is the one in charge and though we would like to make their decisions it will not happen.

We just will have to wait and see what happens concerning the roster. Beast will have no top four draft coming here, Ekberg and half of the team leaving, no NCAA recruits and we pickup a number 1 goalie regardless of what is in the future for Nelson. Going by these assumptions we might as well just throw in the towel.
 
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As I've voiced before I still think we need a new voice as a coach, DC has run its course imo. However I still think we need to keep the Boyd/ Egert tandem who have overall done a good job and as OMG said not many teams have done as well in the last 6-7 years although this year kinda sucked. I'm still furious about them not trading Pinelli but hey no one is perfect. I understand that Pinelli may have vetoed a trade but as somebody said on this board at the deadline ( forget who) a GM needs to lay the groundwork in advance to benefit the team long term. You can only have so much loyalty to players as a GM. I hope JB learned his lesson.
 
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As I've voiced before I still think we need a new voice as a coach, DC has run its course imo. However I still think we need to keep the Boyd/ Egert tandem who have overall done a good job and as OMG said not many teams have done as well in the last 6-7 years although this year kinda sucked. I'm still furious about them not trading Pinelli but hey no one is perfect. I understand that Pinelli may have vetoed a trade but as somebody said on this board at the deadline ( forget who) a GM needs to lay the groundwork in advance to benefit the team long term. You can only have so much loyalty to players as a GM. I hope JB learned his lesson.

The issue leading into the deadline was not being honest from the start of the season. When you create false expectations, fans and players have skewed expectations. Clearly Pinelli wasn’t being fed the right information from day one. That conversation should have been had in training camp. “You are gone at the deadline. We’ve made a lot of power moves, tossed around a lot of picks, and now we need to recoup what we’ve spent.” How Pinelli can veto trades to elite contenders like Barrie is crazy. Giving the team two destinations and neither wanted/needed him is crazy. That should have been managed way better starting from August.
 

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