Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

OMG67

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Cites like Owen Sound and the Soo (perhaps North Bay as well) certainly don't have those facilities, but having spoken to some players over the years, they like a couple of things.

First and foremost, many love the celebrity status. Players get recognized everywhere they go in the Soo and they're just loved in a way that you won't find in a bigger city. Marco Mignosa is a good current example. He's always out and about signing autographs with a big smile. I've heard former players say that the attention helped to prepare them for the NHL.

Another comment I've heard a lot is about the education. Since the teams are such an important part of the community, the local high schools and universities put forth a better quality education experience. It's why you always see Northern teams dominate the academic awards.

This is becoming less common, but some guys just like the old time/small town vibe. Hockey is everything Wayne Gretzky still comes to the Soo a lot and just raves about the atmosphere. He genuinely loves it. I've been to Owen Sound and in some ways it's even better. They just adore that team.

With younger players now coming almost exclusively from rich families in large city centres, it's becoming harder for small towns. They are very attracted to the financial perks that a team like London can offer. I recall former goaltender Tyler Johnson being surprised when he didn't get his own vehicle when he got dealt to the Soo. They just can't afford things like that.

The education issue is interesting because that is where the experience is far from level across the league.

In Ottawa, they mostly all go to Blythe Academy which is a Private International School. Class size average is 12. I think there are a few other OHL Teams that have these in their city and they attend there. IIRC Oshawa is one of them.

So, some teams invest more heavily and/or have sponsorship agreements that allow the players to attend. I imagine many families value these sort sof opportunities differently.
 

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The education issue is interesting because that is where the experience is far from level across the league.

In Ottawa, they mostly all go to Blythe Academy which is a Private International School. Class size average is 12. I think there are a few other OHL Teams that have these in their city and they attend there. IIRC Oshawa is one of them.

So, some teams invest more heavily and/or have sponsorship agreements that allow the players to attend. I imagine many families value these sort sof opportunities differently.
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The other thing to take into consideration is that in smaller towns JR hockey is it for sports in winter. Yes there is Uni hockey but that is usually not part of the package for entertainment.

I also agree that the team has to have a foothold in the community. It needs to get its players out in the community. A couple of trips to the hospital are nice, but they must do the shopping malls and Santa Claus parade if they can. Anything that is going to get their faces in front of people.

There also needs to be a tie-in with the local newspapers and media

In London, the players get the headline.s

In Ottawa,a that is harder because you have the Sens and the CCHL,
 

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The education issue is interesting because that is where the experience is far from level across the league.

In Ottawa, they mostly all go to Blythe Academy which is a Private International School. Class size average is 12. I think there are a few other OHL Teams that have these in their city and they attend there. IIRC Oshawa is one of them.

So, some teams invest more heavily and/or have sponsorship agreements that allow the players to attend. I imagine many families value these sort sof opportunities differently.
The Soo sends a lot of their high school aged students to a similar thing at Korah Collegiate. I know of 2 older players who specifically came here to attend Soo College because it's been the #1 ranked school in the country a few times recently. That's really been a big selling point with some parents. They really value good post-secondary institutions more than the players, most of the time at least.
 

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The Soo sends a lot of their high school aged students to a similar thing at Korah Collegiate. I know of 2 older players who specifically came here to attend Soo College because it's been the #1 ranked school in the country a few times recently. That's really been a big selling point with some parents. They really value good post-secondary institutions more than the players, most of the time at least.

And, IMO, this is another aspect that separates teams.

There are some sort of generally accepted practises where there are minimum requirements for teams to provide support. They aren’t necessarily written down as rules and regulations to follow; however, a strong handful of teams go well beyond the minimum and it creates an uncompetitive landscape for recruitment.

I know a lot of people point at London because they do it better but there are franchises that consistently recruit fairly well and others that simply don’t. There are a lot of factors that the average poster on here doesn’t understand or comprehend.

This is why there are so many conversations in the Kingston thread about the ownership etc. Kingston should be a franchise that flourishes. It is one of the nicest towns in Ontario. Economically stable. Great Metropolitan population base chock full of generational hockey fans. The Frontenacs are an example of a squandered opportunity. It is almost insulting. Niagara was/is in the same situation. It is very possible that with some success this year, that franchise may have turned a corner. Maybe DD had a bit of a learning curve he had to endure before he was able to straighten the ship, or at least I hope that is what it was. But, regardless, some franchises are blessed with opportunity and it is really hard to watch them squander that opportunity.
 
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Parking can be tough in Ottawa.

Merry Christmas to one and all.
 

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Okay it is tht time of year LOL

Survey time.

1. Should the 67's

  1. trade Pinelli and stop there
  2. Trade Pinelli and anyone they can get a good return on
  3. Stay pat and do nothing
  4. BUY BUY BUY
My preference is number 2 but again it is based on return


Realizing that Mayich is safe to stay as long as we donto get that offer to good to be true

Who would you release

Stonehouse
Gerrior
MacK

There are arguments for each one

Me, it is Stonehouse mainly because there are Pro teams that he could play for, and the Oilers, I am sure, will look after him. Gedrrior is one of the top point men on the team, and MacK would help with Nelson's development.
 

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Colts are short on picks so it looks like Parker Vaughn is the returning asset. He was my #1 target at the beginning of the season. If we do manage to snag Vaughn using Pinelli, it will be quite the coup.
We will just have to wait and see if there are many options again. As you have said, this is the first test for Boyd this year,

Pineli lining up what Gariner again would be interesting.
 

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Backup goalie (backup to Nelson) is listed as Petrova?

Petrova was their 7th round pick in the last draft so he is a 16 year old underage. He had a good year last year in Oshawa and is putting up good stats this year in U-18. The U-18 loop isn’t very competitive though so it is tough to translate stats to Jr A and B. He is definitely a player to watch over the next two seasons though.
 

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Colts are short on picks so it looks like Parker Vaughn is the returning asset. He was my #1 target at the beginning of the season. If we do manage to snag Vaughn using Pinelli, it will be quite the coup.
If that's the case then Romani and OVS deal is not happening. They moved on to plan B which is Pinelli and possibly Stonehouse.

WJ
 

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If that's the case then Romani and OVS deal is not happening. They moved on to plan B which is Pinelli and possibly Stonehouse.

WJ

Nothing is confirmed right now. I do have one person I sort of trust that suggests the deal is pretty certain. Another person I sort of trust suggests the deal is basically done. However, neither have confirmed any other parts other than Pinelli and Vaughn which suggests the deal is not “done.” You’d think the other pieces would likely be at least mentioned in some way. No mention of picks, other OA’s/players etc. Maybe the framework is decided and other potential deals may dictate the other pieces? I don’t know. But, it does sound like Pinelli to Barrie in a deal involving Vaughn “seems” to be likley.

Then the Ryan McArthur tweet suggests it is Barrie as the “front runner” which suggests there may be other better deals out there for Ottawa than Parker Vaughn. There are three other potential ‘08s out there (Challenger - Erie, Smith - Oshawa, and O’Donnell - Brantford). So, who knows?
 
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Pretty horrid game today. Very poor coverage. Lacked any sort of push back. They played like a team knowing they won’t be together much longer! Tough to say that but that was right up there with the London game for execution and overall effort.
 

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Nothing is confirmed right now. I do have one person I sort of trust that suggests the deal is pretty certain. Another person I sort of trust suggests the deal is basically done. However, neither have confirmed any other parts other than Pinelli and Vaughn which suggests the deal is not “done.” You’d think the other pieces would likely be at least mentioned in some way. No mention of picks, other OA’s/players etc. Maybe the framework is decided and other potential deals may dictate the other pieces? I don’t know. But, it does sound like Pinelli to Barrie in a deal involving Vaughn “seems” to be likley.

Then the Ryan McArthur tweet suggests it is Barrie as the “front runner” which suggests there may be other better deals out there for Ottawa than Parker Vaughn. There are three other potential ‘08s out there (Challenger - Erie, Smith - Oshawa, and O’Donnell - Brantford). So, who knows?

If Stonehouse is part of the deal then it may be delayed by Barrie attempoting to make room for him unless they are going to do an OA for OA swap with Vaughn.

I can seee Barrie is interested in Pinelli Garner Stonehouse line
67's lose 7-3

#34 Filip Ekberg (8) scores. Assists: #18 Jack Dever

#23 Will Gerrior (18) scores.

#11 Henry Mews (10) scores.
Gerrior has made the decision on who stays easier. The question becomes Mack or Stonehouse.

I am also looking forward to Dever coming back as a leader next year

horner
Barlas
Foster
I think Horner and Barlas are hoping that Foster makes the AHL LOL
 

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If Stonehouse is part of the deal then it may be delayed by Barrie attempoting to make room for him unless they are going to do an OA for OA swap with Vaughn.

I can seee Barrie is interested in Pinelli Garner Stonehouse line

Gerrior has made the decision on who stays easier. The question becomes Mack or Stonehouse.

I am also looking forward to Dever coming back as a leader next year

horner
Barlas
Foster
I think Horner and Barlas are hoping that Foster makes the AHL LOL

Don’t speak too quick about Foster. So much stuff in play right now across the league. Anything can happen right now.
 

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